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Amputate Your Head 08-22-2002 03:55 AM

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Originally posted by SpaceAce
I am sure I will have plenty more replies waiting when I come back online and I will handle them, then.

SpaceAce

no doubt in the fine fashion you've handled them so far.

Amputate Your Head 08-22-2002 03:58 AM

please DO come back and play again when you grow a fucking brain.

SexyMarie 08-22-2002 04:06 AM

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Originally posted by jizz mopper
how should I cut them up? Into 20 second blocks? would that be too short and frustrate the member? Should the movies be longer?

I dont want to host 1 long movie because i think the bandwith would kill me if the site got popular.

also what format? I think .wmv is the lightest, is that a good format or is that not universal enough?

it's exclusive content so i have to host it myself.

thanks for any suggestions.

Hi,

From my own experience: My movies are from 30s to 5 minutes long. I try to keep them in one 'piece of action' and try not to divide them (and try to have this in mind while recording them LOL). But sometimes it doesn't work so I cut them movie into smaller pieces (based on scenes) so it is under 15MB or something.

Now I convert into 2 formats: Windows Media and Real Media (for me they have comparable quality). Thought about Quicktime, too but my members were not interested.

Judging by number of downloads: 70% (or little more) is Windows Media versions, the rest Real Media.

Hope this helps a little :)

the indigo 08-22-2002 04:07 AM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear
I agree with AMP.

Its kinda like punks you see on the street that have spiky blue hair in a mohawk and an anarchy sign on the back of their studded leather jacket. They think they're cool because they aren't conformists like the rest of society. They think people who shop at the Gap are sheep.

I laugh at them.

I laugh at you boy. I respect most of the punk because they THINK different. At least, they THINK. Without people thinking differently than the fucking straight line, there would be no evolution or revolution... See, I'll millionnaire within 2 years (seriously) because I'm able to THINK different. It's that simple.

I hate people that can't respect the difference. They are full of fears and know nothing about them or the world. They need to get out of their fucking country ALONE and travel for once.

Anyway, go fuck yourself and go buy your 'wannabe' Gap suits.

jizz mopper 08-22-2002 04:08 AM

what about hosting?
i currently pay $1/gig, is that good or should i look at a different plan for doing a pay site?

Amputate Your Head 08-22-2002 04:10 AM

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Originally posted by the indigo


I laugh at you boy. I respect most of the punk because they THINK different. At least, they THINK. Without people thinking differently than the fucking straight line, there would be no evolution or revolution... See, I'll millionnaire within 2 years (seriously) because I'm able to THINK different. It's that simple.

I hate people that can't respect the difference. They are full of fears and know nothing about them or the world. They need to get out of their fucking country ALONE and travel for once.

Anyway, go fuck yourself and go buy your 'wannabe' Gap suits.

you fucking dipstick... it's not about "thinking different" or "following the norm".... you fucking freak ass techno extremists just don't get it do you... IT'S A FUCKING NUMBERS GAME!!!!!! FUCK WHAT YOU THINK!!! FUCK HOW YOU FEEL!!!

fucking assclowns.... nevermind..... you're lost.

SpaceAce 08-22-2002 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
hmmm..... well, allow me to retort...

your first post space weenie: (of course it has since been edited to conform to your needs)

now then..... CONTRARY to your claim, I see nothing in this post about using multiple formats or anything even remotely resembling that. Which means, in essence... everything you just said is basically a fucking lie.

You're trying to weasel out of your statements Homer.. and now trying to cover them... and I'm not going to let you.

I can't figure out if you are intentionally dense or if you really can't read.

I never claimed that I advocated multiple formats in my post. So, what are you talking about "CONTRARY" to my claim? I said don't use WMV, it isn't universal. What I did NOT say was that he should use any specific format or code for any particular platform. I didn't suggest ANYTHING specific, so what claim are you talking about?

You're so desperate to make a point that you are inventing bizarre claims. You claime that my original post has been "edited to conform" to my needs. Why is, then, that there is no little message saying "this post last edited by..."? If you look further down the page you will see a post I _did_ edit and it gives the time it was edited. In fact, everywhere on this BBS you see posts with the little line "last edited by ____ at blahblah PM". That is not in my original post because I did not edit my original post. It says the same thing it always said. Nice try though.

The funniest thing about all this that keeps me coming back to post is your amazing ability to project your own shortcomings on me. I am changing reality? I think anyone who reads most of these posts can clearly see that I have been sticking to the same story from the beginning while your story is as malleable as play-doh. Now you've been reduced to inventing claims of mysterious post editing that clearly never happened.

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Fuck that bullshit. I am not going to bullied into surfing in IE just because you are too fucking lazy to code a standards-compliant web page.
You claim that is my original post.
A) It is only a small portion of the original post and, despite your fragile ego, was not addresses to you.
B) It's still in the original post! What editing have I done?

SpaceAce

notjoe 08-22-2002 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by SpaceAce
Do NOT use .WMV. Nothing pisses me off more than websites that require a specific fucking operating system or browser. I haven't found a program or codec to handle .WMV files on Linux, yet and all of a sudden every movie I see on the web is in .WMV format. Don't risk it, go with something more universal.

I've actually come across a few sites lately that just give me a black page with "Internet Explorer is required to view this site." Fuck that bullshit. I am not going to bullied into surfing in IE just because you are too fucking lazy to code a standards-compliant web page.

SpaceAce

Mplayer plays WMF files and a shitload more!

SpaceAce 08-22-2002 12:00 PM

What version of MPlayer? If you look at my desktop screenshots thread, you'll see I have it on there, but I have never been able to make it play WMV files. I have no problem with other forms of AVI and MPG (including DiVX), but WMV... no luck. My version of mplayer was current as of ~3 weeks ago.

SpaceAce

JFPdude 08-22-2002 12:02 PM

popcorn anybody ?


*puff* *puff* pass

BobChezule 08-22-2002 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by SpaceAce
As for IE being the standard, again... more people use it, that doesn't make it the standards setter.
According to Dictionary.com standard is defined as: Something, such as a practice or a product, that is widely recognized or employed, especially because of its excellence.
IE is widely employed, roughly 90% I believe, thus making it the standard setter for browsers.

Backov 08-22-2002 12:10 PM

IE and Windows are the standard.

Use WMV, I believe even Macs can play them now.

Or don't, cause after all, you wouldn't want to lose SpaceDogAces biz!

LOLOLOL

Funny thread. Take it to slashdot dumbass, we're a little more pragmatic here.

Cheers,
Backov

SpaceAce 08-22-2002 12:11 PM

For browsers, maybe. Browsers are built to browse the web. The web has a completely different set of standards (HTML, JavaScript, etc) that are NOT defined by the browser. They are adhered to by the browser. The browser cannot render an HTML page properly if it does not conform to the HTML standard. If a browser does not properly conform to the existing protocol, does that mean the protocol is changed to fit the browser because the browser is popular? No.

IE may set standards for other browsers on things such as browser features, interface, etc. but that has nothing to do with what I've said.

Again, no matter how you look at it, a web browser is a tool for browsing the web. Just because more people use a given browser does not change the browser's function and it does not change the underlying technology that the browser must conform to in order to be useful.

SpaceAce

smileygirls 08-22-2002 12:11 PM

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popcorn anybody ?
:1orglaugh

Pass it my way! This is hilarious!

btw, wmv, no worries to date.

SpaceAce 08-22-2002 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by Backov
IE and Windows are the standard.

Use WMV, I believe even Macs can play them now.

Or don't, cause after all, you wouldn't want to lose SpaceDogAces biz!

LOLOLOL

Funny thread. Take it to slashdot dumbass, we're a little more pragmatic here.

Cheers,
Backov

If by "pragmatic" you mean "we like to stick our tongues out and call peoples names", then I would have to agree.

SpaceAce

quiet 08-22-2002 12:14 PM

threads like this make me smile :)

Master_Yoba 08-22-2002 12:32 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
for your members area, 5 to 10 minute blocks are cool.... anything longer is too much, and anything shorter just pisses them off.
Back to the start..
5-10 min for good quality downloading is too big. For example we have 3.0-3.5 mb per 1 min mpg, nastydollars sites 5 mb per 1 min, so 10 min will be 30-50 mb or you need to reduce quality. I don't tell here about 56 kb streaming, just mpg downloading.
Therefore we cut movie to 1.5 - 3 min. Also I absolutelly agree with SexyMarie :

================== original text ==================
"to keep them in one 'piece of action' and try not to divide them (and try to have this in mind while recording them LOL). But sometimes it doesn't work so I cut them movie into smaller pieces (based on scenes) so it is under 15MB or something."
:thumbsup

fiveyes 08-22-2002 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by Master_Yoba

Back to the start..
5-10 min for good quality downloading is too big. For example we have 3.0-3.5 mb per 1 min mpg, nastydollars sites 5 mb per 1 min, so 10 min will be 30-50 mb or you need to reduce quality. I don't tell here about 56 kb streaming, just mpg downloading.
Therefore we cut movie to 1.5 - 3 min. Also I absolutelly agree with SexyMarie :

================== original text ==================
"to keep them in one 'piece of action' and try not to divide them (and try to have this in mind while recording them LOL). But sometimes it doesn't work so I cut them movie into smaller pieces (based on scenes) so it is under 15MB or something."
:thumbsup

Good point, there are different approachs to streaming video and downloaded video. I've found that 30-60 secs for downloaded clips work well and 3-10 minutes clips for streaming in member's areas. Can't say anything about movie galleries, have never done any.

hahmike 08-22-2002 01:37 PM

agree with amp... can't disagree with amp...

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Originally posted by quiet
threads like this make me smile :)
this thread makes me laugh, too fucking funny.

amp's highlighting is the icing on the cake, but it doesn't show in netscape...

Pipecrew 08-22-2002 01:58 PM

If you dont know the answers to these questions, run an mgp for a few years or deal with movies on a daily basis for a long time before starting a paysite :thumbsup

dacash 08-22-2002 02:11 PM

Spaceace, can you contact me by ICQ need to ask u some stuff


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