Will wait and get the fuller picture before saying much and let any "conflicts" show up :pimp Things can appear to be something they are not, but a gutty feeling says otherwise.

No, what I'm saying is that when we have many clients and your the only one complaining, we have something going on here. You heard John, he said everything was fine on his end.

and ffs stop syaing I cancelled my account.

This was my e-mail to you after realising you were reselling me hosting:

I asked for a refund. You don't cancel the account and then refuse a refund... are you retarded?

Simple question... since when did you have these "many clients" and what is the legal entity or DBA and the address of this enterprise?

We registered this domain in early April. I have also worked for Valu-Host, and also was partnership in 2 other hosting companies before leaving them all and forming my own. Also owned a reseller account back in early 2003, before going to work for hosting companies.

You can find the address by looking up the Whois information. We have received many clients from Valu-Host after switching from their shifty business.

Sure.. that ties in. And... what is the corp name and address you are trading from and taking hosting orders from clients?

You filed a claim with PayPal telling them about canceling the account. Also, thats not the e-mail you sent canceling the account, we have other ones.

Webby I'm guessing you've smelt another rat with this guy???

OK.. thanks. So basically there is no corp and this enterprise is operated from Hanley Road?

Atomic Web Host
217 Haney Road
New Galilee
Pennsylvania
16141

Valu-Host, look them up as well.

I could post here evry e-mail I sent to you on the day I supposedly "cancelled" the account.

And my Paypal message says I want a refund. Simple. I can't believe your going to lose all reputation over $100, man things must be tight for you. Obviously this 'business' of yours must be heading the same as the other one, which failed.....

????

do you put them thru the carwash or what ?

good heads up

No, the weekly maintenance is very short, last week though he switched to a new bigger server which took longer, and some of the accounts took longer than normal, his being one of them. One of the posters on here account didn't take long at all though.

I tested valuhost4u our of curiosity...

their ebay deals have a 3 day money back guaruntee.

I bought one, then immediately askd for a refund. thats all the email to the said.

"apologies, i bought in error, id like a refund as stated in your policy"

I go a reply saying "what domain do you want for your account"

I again replied with "i want a refund. no account"

they just sent me a full accuont details page, they have set me up with an account in my GFY name hahahahahahahahahahaha

I think something very fishy is going on here! lol

lol

Thats 98.8% uptime..... your ToS promise 99.9% uptime

more reason for void of contract......

Sure, "our" servers go to the car wash, the website gets pulled for maintenance, the "many customers" never complain and the "enterprise" that has a problem with $100 refunds runs from a house in Pennsylvania.

On the ten star host rankings - this idiot obviously gets top marks :1orglaugh :thumbsup

[QUOTE=Goodings Media;12406974]lol

Please provide a link to my TOS where it says I offer 99.9% uptime.

Sounds excellent - tho that screwed your uptime percentage....

Your name is not Phil by any chance????

goodluck with paypal

with service type payments they almost always side with the seller

to the OP it seems like you have but you may want to try to offer setup, first month, cost of domain, be deducted from the refund amount. I know it is not what you are looking for since they did have the money back guarantee but that way you get some money back and can keep the domain. Even if paypal sides with you you will end up loosing the domain.

[QUOTE=x Shady x;12406995]Well.. obviously if your website is down, how would you expect anyone to point to your TOS??? Is this just a logic blank or the level of sense a client can expect?

Why don't you post your TOS here???

[QUOTE=Webby;12407006]:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

maybe in the archived sites....

If I was the host, the money would be already back in his account. ..My time and reputation is worth way much more.
BTW, I reimbursed an oriental customer a year or two ago, on a dedicated box, because he changed his mind .... Not worth arguing.

If I was the client, I would do a chargeback with the credit card issuer ...

Hiya, I offered to knock off the first month when I realised I was being scammed. I also offered to pay for the domain registration, but was refused so have been forced to register an alternative and pay extra design costs to get my website adjusted.

[QUOTE=Webby;12407006]exactly what i was going to say.

However, sinice he just admitted to reselling me valu-host hosting, i went on their ToS which say 99.9 guarunteed......

Sadly yes... but won't know a fuller picture for a couple of days. It "may" be innocent enough, but smells like another idiot trying to be something he's not - the sooner these people are wiped, the better all round.

[QUOTE=directfiesta;12407023]omg your a genius... im sure i read that my bank has online insurance..... :thumbsup thanks for the headsup.

And yes, the amount of emails he has sent me trying to keep his grubby hands on the $100, which to a single new client like me is a lot of money but to the owner of a big web host company should seem like pennies, and the hit on his rep.... you'd think simply refunding me and saving face would be a better alternative?

[QUOTE=directfiesta;12407023]Exactly DF - it's not even worth the hassle thinking about $100 :thumbsup

This website was moved over/purchased from another defunct host a few months back, so no real public record of it yet on the archives.

I just got an email form Phil (or Valu-Host? Or Shady? whoever 'he' is...) saying simply:

"I need contact details for you, mail address will be fine"

WTF :?:

[QUOTE=x Shady x;12406995]OK Phil or whatever your name is... why don't you provide a copy of your TOS and quit playing dumb??

Or... what's the problem with your website??? Why don't you install it?

Did the artistic temperament over design issues force you to pull your few web pages and result in your whole business coming to a halt and not taking any more clients??? :pimp

Ah yes... it is the famous Phil who is now apparently a rep - thought so :1orglaugh

Still curious to know what, if anything, DaddyHalBucks has to do with this - if ya see this DHB, maybe you can say??? :winkwink:

Whos DaddyHalBucks???

After asking why he needed my home adddress, he's gone quiet...

Maybe he's sending around some heavies to silence me? :pimp

Damn I want my £55 back!

DaddyHalbucks is a nick on GFY.

Na... he needed your home address to stall again - it's all about the check thats in the mail. The one that will never get delivered :winkwink:

Obviously Phil's mind needs to be focussed...

So if I understand this right...

you paid atomicwebhost for an account on the 29th...
you couldn't upload (as they admit) for 2 days...
and then cancelled your account on what day???

eitherway, considering at most it could be 10 or 11 days, they should have refunded you the money out of goodwill... just another host I won't do business with..

Yes.
I couldn't upload files from 29th until 5th May. I still have the email.
And they terminated my account on Wednesday 9th, after I asked for a refund (due to poor service and poor quality)

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yeah I thought so, since I asked what he needed it for he still hasn't replied lol

oh and looking through my emails, the account was actually set up on 30th :)

And then this was my email I received on 6th May...

hahaha set up on 29th or 30th my ass!!!!!

Read that "we had to setup your account....." hahahahaha fucker!

shady
One entry found for shady.
Main Entry: shady
Pronunciation: 'shA-dE
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): shad·i·er; -est
1 : producing or affording shade
2 : sheltered from the sun's rays
3 a : of questionable merit : UNCERTAIN, UNRELIABLE b : DISREPUTABLE

Just spoke with Paypal, and they have no idea what he's on about when he says that they promised him he would win the case.

I'm just going to need to send them all the conversation logs, specifically the one where he emailed me on 6th May saying "your account has now been setup on a server" and everything should be ok :thumbsup