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Phil LoadedCash 05-10-2007 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby (Post 12406923)
Sure.. that ties in. And... what is the corp name and address you are trading from and taking hosting orders from clients?

Valu-Host, look them up as well.

Goodings Media 05-10-2007 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x Shady x (Post 12406938)
You filed a claim with PayPal telling them about canceling the account. Also, thats not the e-mail you sent canceling the account, we have other ones.

I could post here evry e-mail I sent to you on the day I supposedly "cancelled" the account.

And my Paypal message says I want a refund. Simple. I can't believe your going to lose all reputation over $100, man things must be tight for you. Obviously this 'business' of yours must be heading the same as the other one, which failed.....

directfiesta 05-10-2007 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x Shady x (Post 12406793)

when our servers were down for weekly maintenance for about 2 hours.

????

do you put them thru the carwash or what ?

GAMEFINEST 05-10-2007 09:11 PM

good heads up

Phil LoadedCash 05-10-2007 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 12406956)
????

do you put them thru the carwash or what ?

No, the weekly maintenance is very short, last week though he switched to a new bigger server which took longer, and some of the accounts took longer than normal, his being one of them. One of the posters on here account didn't take long at all though.

Juicy D. Links 05-10-2007 09:13 PM

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Goodings Media 05-10-2007 09:13 PM

I tested valuhost4u our of curiosity...

their ebay deals have a 3 day money back guaruntee.

I bought one, then immediately askd for a refund. thats all the email to the said.

"apologies, i bought in error, id like a refund as stated in your policy"

I go a reply saying "what domain do you want for your account"

I again replied with "i want a refund. no account"

they just sent me a full accuont details page, they have set me up with an account in my GFY name hahahahahahahahahahaha

I think something very fishy is going on here! lol

Goodings Media 05-10-2007 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 12406956)
????

do you put them thru the carwash or what ?

lol

Thats 98.8% uptime..... your ToS promise 99.9% uptime

more reason for void of contract......

Webby 05-10-2007 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 12406956)
????

do you put them thru the carwash or what ?

Sure, "our" servers go to the car wash, the website gets pulled for maintenance, the "many customers" never complain and the "enterprise" that has a problem with $100 refunds runs from a house in Pennsylvania.

On the ten star host rankings - this idiot obviously gets top marks :1orglaugh :thumbsup

Phil LoadedCash 05-10-2007 09:19 PM

[QUOTE=Goodings Media;12406974]lol

Please provide a link to my TOS where it says I offer 99.9% uptime.

Webby 05-10-2007 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x Shady x (Post 12406963)
No, the weekly maintenance is very short, last week though he switched to a new bigger server which took longer, and some of the accounts took longer than normal, his being one of them. One of the posters on here account didn't take long at all though.

Sounds excellent - tho that screwed your uptime percentage....

Your name is not Phil by any chance????

lelahosting 05-10-2007 09:20 PM

goodluck with paypal

with service type payments they almost always side with the seller

to the OP it seems like you have but you may want to try to offer setup, first month, cost of domain, be deducted from the refund amount. I know it is not what you are looking for since they did have the money back guarantee but that way you get some money back and can keep the domain. Even if paypal sides with you you will end up loosing the domain.

Webby 05-10-2007 09:21 PM

[QUOTE=x Shady x;12406995]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodings Media (Post 12406974)
lol

Please provide a link to my TOS where it says I offer 99.9% uptime.

Well.. obviously if your website is down, how would you expect anyone to point to your TOS??? Is this just a logic blank or the level of sense a client can expect?

Why don't you post your TOS here???

directfiesta 05-10-2007 09:25 PM

[QUOTE=Webby;12407006]
Quote:

Originally Posted by x Shady x (Post 12406995)

Well.. obviously if your website is down, how would you expect anyone to point to your TOS??? Is this just a logic blank or the level of sense a client can expect?

Why don't you post your TOS here???

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

maybe in the archived sites....

If I was the host, the money would be already back in his account. ..My time and reputation is worth way much more.
BTW, I reimbursed an oriental customer a year or two ago, on a dedicated box, because he changed his mind .... Not worth arguing.

If I was the client, I would do a chargeback with the credit card issuer ...

Goodings Media 05-10-2007 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lelahosting (Post 12407003)
goodluck with paypal

with service type payments they almost always side with the seller

to the OP it seems like you have but you may want to try to offer setup, first month, cost of domain, be deducted from the refund amount. I know it is not what you are looking for since they did have the money back guarantee but that way you get some money back and can keep the domain. Even if paypal sides with you you will end up loosing the domain.

Hiya, I offered to knock off the first month when I realised I was being scammed. I also offered to pay for the domain registration, but was refused so have been forced to register an alternative and pay extra design costs to get my website adjusted.

[QUOTE=Webby;12407006]
Quote:

Originally Posted by x Shady x (Post 12406995)

Well.. obviously if your website is down, how would you expect anyone to point to your TOS??? Is this just a logic blank or the level of sense a client can expect?

Why don't you post your TOS here???

exactly what i was going to say.

However, sinice he just admitted to reselling me valu-host hosting, i went on their ToS which say 99.9 guarunteed......

Webby 05-10-2007 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodings Media (Post 12406937)
Webby I'm guessing you've smelt another rat with this guy???

Sadly yes... but won't know a fuller picture for a couple of days. It "may" be innocent enough, but smells like another idiot trying to be something he's not - the sooner these people are wiped, the better all round.

Goodings Media 05-10-2007 09:30 PM

[QUOTE=directfiesta;12407023]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby (Post 12407006)

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

maybe in the archived sites....

If I was the host, the money would be already back in his account. ..My time and reputation is worth way much more.
BTW, I reimbursed an oriental customer a year or two ago, on a dedicated box, because he changed his mind .... Not worth arguing.

If I was the client, I would do a chargeback with the credit card issuer ...

omg your a genius... im sure i read that my bank has online insurance..... :thumbsup thanks for the headsup.

And yes, the amount of emails he has sent me trying to keep his grubby hands on the $100, which to a single new client like me is a lot of money but to the owner of a big web host company should seem like pennies, and the hit on his rep.... you'd think simply refunding me and saving face would be a better alternative?

Webby 05-10-2007 09:31 PM

[QUOTE=directfiesta;12407023]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby (Post 12407006)

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

maybe in the archived sites....

If I was the host, the money would be already back in his account. ..My time and reputation is worth way much more.
BTW, I reimbursed an oriental customer a year or two ago, on a dedicated box, because he changed his mind .... Not worth arguing.

If I was the client, I would do a chargeback with the credit card issuer ...

Exactly DF - it's not even worth the hassle thinking about $100 :thumbsup

This website was moved over/purchased from another defunct host a few months back, so no real public record of it yet on the archives.

Goodings Media 05-10-2007 09:41 PM

I just got an email form Phil (or Valu-Host? Or Shady? whoever 'he' is...) saying simply:

"I need contact details for you, mail address will be fine"

WTF :?:

Webby 05-10-2007 09:42 PM

[QUOTE=x Shady x;12406995]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodings Media (Post 12406974)
Please provide a link to my TOS where it says I offer 99.9% uptime.

OK Phil or whatever your name is... why don't you provide a copy of your TOS and quit playing dumb??

Or... what's the problem with your website??? Why don't you install it?

Did the artistic temperament over design issues force you to pull your few web pages and result in your whole business coming to a halt and not taking any more clients??? :pimp

Webby 05-10-2007 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodings Media (Post 12407083)
I just got an email form Phil (or Valu-Host? Or Shady? whoever 'he' is...) saying simply:

"I need contact details for you, mail address will be fine"

WTF :?:

Ah yes... it is the famous Phil who is now apparently a rep - thought so :1orglaugh

Webby 05-10-2007 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodings Media (Post 12407083)
I just got an email form Phil (or Valu-Host? Or Shady? whoever 'he' is...)

Still curious to know what, if anything, DaddyHalBucks has to do with this - if ya see this DHB, maybe you can say??? :winkwink:

Goodings Media 05-10-2007 09:58 PM

Whos DaddyHalBucks???

After asking why he needed my home adddress, he's gone quiet...

Maybe he's sending around some heavies to silence me? :pimp

Goodings Media 05-10-2007 10:22 PM

Damn I want my £55 back!

Webby 05-10-2007 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodings Media (Post 12407132)
Whos DaddyHalBucks???

After asking why he needed my home adddress, he's gone quiet...

Maybe he's sending around some heavies to silence me? :pimp

DaddyHalbucks is a nick on GFY.

Na... he needed your home address to stall again - it's all about the check thats in the mail. The one that will never get delivered :winkwink:

Obviously Phil's mind needs to be focussed...

kaori 05-10-2007 10:47 PM

So if I understand this right...

you paid atomicwebhost for an account on the 29th...
you couldn't upload (as they admit) for 2 days...
and then cancelled your account on what day???

eitherway, considering at most it could be 10 or 11 days, they should have refunded you the money out of goodwill... just another host I won't do business with..

Goodings Media 05-10-2007 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaori (Post 12407251)
So if I understand this right...

you paid atomicwebhost for an account on the 29th...
you couldn't upload (as they admit) for 2 days...
and then cancelled your account on what day???

eitherway, considering at most it could be 10 or 11 days, they should have refunded you the money out of goodwill... just another host I won't do business with..

Yes.
I couldn't upload files from 29th until 5th May. I still have the email.
And they terminated my account on Wednesday 9th, after I asked for a refund (due to poor service and poor quality)

-------

yeah I thought so, since I asked what he needed it for he still hasn't replied lol

Goodings Media 05-10-2007 10:57 PM

oh and looking through my emails, the account was actually set up on 30th :)

And then this was my email I received on 6th May...

Quote:

Hey,

Everything has been fixed. I'm really sorry for the delay, I've been working on it a lot now. We had to setup your account on one of our newest servers and had to do things with the nameservers. For how long it took, I set it up so your namesevers don't appear as NS1 & NS2.ATOMICWEBHOST.COM <http://NS2.ATOMICWEBHOST.COM> but for .LATINAASSFUCK.COM

Sorry for the delay again,
Phil
hahaha set up on 29th or 30th my ass!!!!!

Read that "we had to setup your account....." hahahahaha fucker!

cess 05-10-2007 11:17 PM

shady
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Main Entry: shady
Pronunciation: 'shA-dE
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): shad·i·er; -est
1 : producing or affording shade
2 : sheltered from the sun's rays
3 a : of questionable merit : UNCERTAIN, UNRELIABLE b : DISREPUTABLE

Goodings Media 05-11-2007 02:05 AM

Just spoke with Paypal, and they have no idea what he's on about when he says that they promised him he would win the case.

I'm just going to need to send them all the conversation logs, specifically the one where he emailed me on 6th May saying "your account has now been setup on a server" and everything should be ok :thumbsup

tenderobject 05-11-2007 02:37 AM

bump for shitty host..

i remember a few yers back when im looking for a cheap hosting on wht.. theres a lot of messages all over my messenger offering cheap host.. i remember some kid is offering me very cheap then i check their site lol dunno its fucking really cheap. i don't this a good company would not invest for their own website/identity/branding... theres a lot of people think theyre big but theyre just a reseller.. im a reseller too but for a local market.. lol hosting sucks i ended up hosting my own sites so i don't waste money hosting afew friends.

potter 05-11-2007 03:19 AM

Wow, this thread is too easy. You just have to quote him, he fucks himself over plain and simple.

Quote:

Originally Posted by x Shady x (Post 12406810)
PayPal agreed it is on his fault, because he did not closely read the 7 Day Money Back Guarantee. They are currently reviewing the claim.

If they already agreed it's his fault, how come they're currently reviewing the claim? Wouldn't their decission of fault be the end of the review?

Quote:

Originally Posted by x Shady x (Post 12406871)
PayPal has not officially agreed in our favor

Ohhhh. My bad, I didn't realize I had to read down a bit more to see you backstep.

Quote:

Originally Posted by x Shady x (Post 12406914)
We registered this domain in early April.

You've been in business for less than a month? That one month mark makes you uber trust worthy and shows you are reliable. Congrats!

Quote:

Originally Posted by x Shady x (Post 12406917)
You can find the address by looking up the Whois information.

It's always nice to see a company respond to people asking for their location by saying "go look at our whois".

This is the best for sure!!! Webby asks, "Sure.. that ties in. And... what is the corp name and address you are trading from and taking hosting orders from clients?"

Shady responds:
Quote:

Originally Posted by x Shady x (Post 12406947)
Valu-Host, look them up as well.

But But.. Wait I'm confused.. Earlier all this was said.

Quote:

Originally Posted by x Shady x (Post 12406914)
I have also worked for Valu-Host, and also was partnership in 2 other hosting companies before leaving them all and forming my own.

Quote:

Originally Posted by x Shady x (Post 12406917)
We have received many clients from Valu-Host after switching from their shifty business.

Quote:

Originally Posted by x Shady x (Post 12406871)
We own our servers, and do not resell anything. We do, however, know the owners of Valu-Host, but we do not resell off of them.

You know valu-host. Used to work for them, but now own your own hosting company from which you get valu-host customers who are unhappy with their service. You own your own servers and do not resell. All while your corp name is under valu-host from which you are taking your orders through.

Right. Cause that makes sense.

Quote:

Originally Posted by x Shady x (Post 12406995)
Please provide a link to my TOS where it says I offer 99.9% uptime.

No no. You as the "business owner" get to provide the portion of your TOS that does not state so. You don't get to remove your site, then tell customers to go find shit. You're also blatantly saying "we don't have 99.9% uptime" which is terrible.


P.S. Thread starter - So they stole your domain? That domain should be yours no matter what, just because you cancel your hosting package does not mean they can keep the domain. I'm surprised you didn't push this when the guy was here responding.

Goodings Media 05-11-2007 09:45 AM

Potter - thanks for that man :thumbsup you summarising all that makes it even more of a joke .... lol .... if it wasn't for losing cash! haha

Yeah I know, I wanted www.LatinaAssFuck.com which he said was in the price, i.e. i was paying for it. I didn't realise he would register it all in his details.....what a prick.

I've gone and registered www.LatinaButtFuck.com (:pimp:) and am having to re-design my sites graphics.

I can't wait to see the post he makes on GFY in the future trying to sell my domain...... lol

:thumbsup

Now Phil - refund me my money!!!!!!!

tenderobject 05-12-2007 02:39 AM

still waiting for paypal man? hope you get your money...

Goodings Media 05-12-2007 06:35 AM

Yeah still heard nothing from them...

Its worrying that he thinks he's acted professionally and correctly about this.... damn hiss momma raised some fool!!! :pimp:

Goodings Media 05-12-2007 03:12 PM

www.TeenSlutBox.com

www.LatinaButtFuck.com

www.GoodingsMedia.com

All hosted on a nice new AMD X2 3800 with 2gb Ram, 10mb line and 500gb storage to play with. And he said if I go over, he'll do me a good deal on the new hdd :)

My advice - find a host who is local. Local enough to pop around to the office, physically have a look at the hardware, meet the people in charge, and then you can begin what will be a long and profitable (and friendly) business relationship.

So looks like I still might be abl to set up that small adult TGP/Blog hosting afterall ;)

tenderobject 05-12-2007 03:14 PM

dedicated box? nice specs. how much for that dedi?

KrisKross 05-12-2007 03:39 PM

$100 is most of your startup investement? eesh.

Lee 05-12-2007 03:40 PM

Selling adult hosting through Paypal?

mortenb 05-12-2007 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 12416176)
Selling adult hosting through Paypal?

LOL i guess he could be shut down that way :1orglaugh

directfiesta 05-12-2007 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 12416176)
Selling adult hosting through Paypal?

Hosting is hosting ... that the space be used for mainstream or adult has nothing to do with it ...

It is not content.

directfiesta 05-12-2007 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenderobject (Post 12416102)
dedicated box? nice specs. how much for that dedi?

here is real dedi .. not a shared oversold virtual account:

This box is ready to go NOW !

- Intel Dual Core Pentium D 820 2.8 Ghz
- I Gig Ram DDR2
- 250 gigs SATA HD
- 1000 Gigs/month premium Bandwith
- APC Remote boot port
- Bandwith graphs ( cacti )
- Centos OS with Webmin panel
- Montreal Data Center

$ Can 159.00 - no setup fee ( about 140.00 US )
month to month
Paypal or Epassport

If paid quaterly, the lower price would be $ 150.00 Can/month ( about 135.00 $ US )

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=732454

Lee 05-12-2007 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 12416188)
Hosting is hosting ... that the space be used for mainstream or adult has nothing to do with it ...

It is not content.

Is that true? Ive always kept my server payments well away from PP just because they are fussy fuckers and canned me before.

u-Bob 05-12-2007 03:51 PM

(updated my shitlist file :) )

directfiesta 05-12-2007 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 12416206)
Is that true? Ive always kept my server payments well away from PP just because they are fussy fuckers and canned me before.

i sell space ... Iam a virtual landlord ... My " store space " can be used for anything legal ... and can be paid by paypal or other means ... It is SPACE, nothing else.

I do have shops selling adult dvd's ... Obviously, I do not use Paypal, since this is actual adult xxx content ...

Take it a step further .. You need a script... The scriptwebsite accepts paypal .. you are going to use that script on an adult site .. do you think it should be not " paypal " possible ...

Lee 05-12-2007 03:54 PM

Perhaps Im just over-cautious with PP then.

scottybuzz 05-12-2007 04:08 PM

yo goodings, I asked you before but you didnt reply,

do you go to canterbury university, the one on the hil that over looks the city? if so I may be staying there a couple of months with a friend in the summer. it would be cool to meet as i would like to meet a fellow UK webmaster my age!


peace.

Goodings Media 05-12-2007 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenderobject (Post 12416102)
dedicated box? nice specs. how much for that dedi?

Oh sorry, no it isn't dediacted I share with about 4 others in the box. A hdd each i think lol

When I spoke i made him aware of the fuckabout I'd had, and that I'd rather pay more for the service! Thats when he invited me down lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisKross (Post 12416172)
$100 is most of your startup investement? eesh.

Fck you. Im a student. Dude i feed myself on £30 a week lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 12416176)
Selling adult hosting through Paypal?

tbh I never thought of it like that... not gonna say anything cuz they'd shut his account and take my $100 lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 12416299)
yo goodings, I asked you before but you didnt reply,

do you go to canterbury university, the one on the hil that over looks the city? if so I may be staying there a couple of months with a friend in the summer. it would be cool to meet as i would like to meet a fellow UK webmaster my age!


peace.

sorry dude must have missed it! :)

yeah I do. 19 years, Doing Astronomy, Space Science and Astrophysics (thats if i don't fail all my 1st yr exams!)

If your coming up after the summer I'll be here, would be cool to meet up and we'll go for a drink!

Hit me up [email protected]

scottybuzz 05-13-2007 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodings Media (Post 12416335)
Oh sorry, no it isn't dediacted I share with about 4 others in the box. A hdd each i think lol

When I spoke i made him aware of the fuckabout I'd had, and that I'd rather pay more for the service! Thats when he invited me down lol



Fck you. Im a student. Dude i feed myself on &#163;30 a week lol



tbh I never thought of it like that... not gonna say anything cuz they'd shut his account and take my $100 lol



sorry dude must have missed it! :)

yeah I do. 19 years, Doing Astronomy, Space Science and Astrophysics (thats if i don't fail all my 1st yr exams!)

If your coming up after the summer I'll be here, would be cool to meet up and we'll go for a drink!

Hit me up [email protected]


Sweet ill email you later near the time if i decide to come! by any chance do you know some boy called manny? amanuel edigo?

tenderobject 05-13-2007 07:28 AM

x_shady_x is ignoring this thread. seen him posting on sell and buy forum


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