I read a book a while back called 'Fargo Rock City' which was a writer remembering being a kid growing up as a metal fan and his whole thesis was that Nirvana killed GnR and therefore the rock star.

I am hardly a young parent, and there is a good chance I am the exception to the rule, but my kids (especially my daughter) pretty much have the same musical tastes as me. She even asked me to go to see Aerosmith with her when she was 18.

I was honored.

chris cornell? LMFAO

rock stars since the 1990's without a doubt has to be liam gallaghar

Don't recognize any of those pics.


Manson was formed in 1989 . . . I would be surprised if he sold out stadiums for over a decade unless you count high school football stadiums.

Actually how the conversation started . . . she calls me a rock star at times. :1orglaugh

ahahahaa... that right therre is good for at least another 3-4 pages of drama.

Nicely played sir. :D

While I agree to a point with some of what you said in that post, I'll have to disagree with this one. For one, most American housewives back then didn't even listen to rock. We must be talking about recognizeability among fans of rock, not parents whoi don't or didn't even listen to it.

Secondly, Ozzy's face was front and center on at least one of his albums back then. That was long before any TV show was ever concieved. Millions of fans would have instantly recognized him back then from that alone.

Same with Alice Cooper for that matter. Very recognizeable face, for decades now. Would my mom or dad know him? Of course not. But I would. So would just about everyone I know in my age bracket.

I'm actually surprised no one has mentioned Cooper in this thread before now. Or the brothers Gibb for that matter. The Bee Gees get overlooked in these discussions because of their association with disco, and people tend to forget just how massive they were through the 70's. They did a lot of rock stuff in the 60's though, and let's face it, whether people want to admit it or not disco is an offshoot of pop rock.

A lot of parents today and people in the 30-50+ age bracket would know these guys to see them. Ozzy, Cooper, Bee Gees.

Bono is an Icon of a RockStar

Give it another decade or two... Those guys are all from the same era, todays music will be the "classics" some day and our classics will be forgotten.

I have lived the life more than some of the people mentioned thus far. :1orglaugh

Because this is a post-1990 discussion?

Highly doubtful. Snoop is the only one named (besides the dead guy) that stands a chance.

liam gallaghar
zach de la rocha/tom morello

kurt kobain is debatable, one good album and took loads of drugs? if that makes you a rockstar then alot more people from the 90's fall into that category (pete doherty lol)

The 1st of April passed some time ago... :)

anyone can take drugs, im pretty sure kurt kobain couldnt fight he was small and thin

I don't know the date of their first real record, etc but they certainly became known in the 90's. As far as packing places out...well, when I moved to the UK in 1996 they were packing places out and headlining festivals and last year they were still headlining festivals here.

Now, I think he is overrated but he - as an individual - has lived what you call 'the life' right down to the porn star wife and being blamed for every bit of teenage violence for years. You don't have to actually like his music to recognize he is at that level.

well, the guy on the left is Trent Reznor from NIN, I will go as far to say the most influential band of the 90s (sorry, but a couple albums from Nirvana just doesn't stack up to the overall impact of NIN on rock music) and the guy on the right is Alan Rickman/Professor Snape from the movie Harry Potter, c'mon, who hasn't seen a Harry Potter movie? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

well, what I was saying was based on a quote from Pornwolf, who said they would need to be recognized by not just your average rock fan, but by your average person, be they country boys or kids living in the ghetto. yea, rock fans knew him, but hip hoppers & suburban housewives I think would just wonder who the freak with the crazy hair was. :)

http://blogs.citypages.com/ctg/images/Ozzy.jpg

Thom Yorke

hmm... Kurt Cobain, Marilyn Manson and the Gallaghar brothers (Oasis). that's about it. maybe GnR, but they were already huge by 1990.

what about Maynard Keenan from TOOL?

Does he qualify as a rock star?

me for one . . . aren't you a little old for them, or do you have kids?

That's because society doesn't NEED rockstars. We have the option to listen to so many artists at any given time. The digital age has made it easy for thousands of bands to get marginal success, and without major label funding, there most likely won't be too many promotional pushes to make the next ROCK STAR anytime soon.

It's a different time period...The day of the stadium band is over. People have smartened up and realized that a much better experience can be had in an intimate venue spread out across multiple nights.

The big festivals bring that stadium sense back a couple times a year, but it's just not needed or wanted anymore on a regular basis. Kids, college students and 30 somethings have shorter attention spans now.

That's because society doesn't NEED rockstars. We have the option to listen to so many artists at any given time. The digital age has made it easy for thousands of bands to get marginal success, and without major label funding, there most likely won't be too many promotional pushes to make the next ROCK STAR anytime soon.

It's a different time period...The day of the stadium band is over. People have smartened up and realized that a much better experience can be had in an intimate venue spread out across multiple nights.

The big festivals bring that stadium sense back a couple times a year, but it's just not needed or wanted anymore on a regular basis. Kids, college students and 30 somethings have shorter attention spans now.

The Black Crowes were very close, and they started in 90 when they had any success. But still not rock stars per say

No no.. jeez old guy, I was talking about why no one mentioned Alice cooper in the part of the conversation where we were mentioning names of the classic stars who are actually considered the epitome of what a "rock star" is.

Clearer now?

I'm here to help. :D

The day that classic rock from the 60's & 70's and early 80's is "forgotten" will be a sad day for all of humanity.

That music is gold, created in a golden time that will never come again.

It's not only timeless, it's priceless.

Robbie Williams

I went to one of his concerts in 1971 or 72 . . . . most people here probably would have to Google him.

Reznor is older. Scott Stapp is joke. Cornell, Vedder, and Staley (I noticed you left Cobain out, you must be a fanboy of the era but not of Nirvana) are gods to you and me but not everyone is between 24 and 33. Zombie is a rockstar but not the same caliber. Manson is closest.

I remember my mom saying the Beatles were a flash in the pan and would not be remembered in 5 years (circa 1964)

how the fuck is cornell a god, he cant sing for shit, audioslave was a pile of shit, long live rage against the machine

:thumbsup :1orglaugh

Not if you live in the UK..Alice is over here all the time doing tv commercials and stuff...Manson inherited his gig....meanwhile Alice is playing golf all the time...rock and roll!

Scott Weiland, Trent Reznor, Kurt Cobain, are the only ones that really come close in my mind. But still not quite there.

DURING The 90's they were definitely rock stars. And I think even alot of people who weren't really fans might recognize them back then.

But today even I probably wouldn't notice Trent or Scott if I was standing behind them in the line at the grocery store.

Alot of people say Kurt Cobain, but if he was still alive today he would likely be on the same level as Weiland and Reznor. His death made him more famous then his music could have ever done.

Manson is another, alot would recognize him, but not because of his music. Just his image that sticks in your mind.

So, I don't think there are any from the 90's that really fit the criteria.

u missed liam gallaghar

you missed it, mentioned 3 or 4 times already

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yup - I think they are so overrated - sorry to all the Chris Cornell haters but Cobain doesn't hold a candle to him in terms of talent or "rock star" mojo - Smells like Teen Spirit was a good catchy song - I'll give them that - but so was Hit Me Baby One More Time :1orglaugh but those guys weren't shit without Dave Grohl and Cobain wasn't any great singer or songwriter or anything else - the only reason he became the "voice of a generation" is because he offed himself - their follow-up to Nevermind, In Utero wasn't even selling well - they were destined to be nothing more then a footnote in rock history

not a good song writer? You cant be serious is one of the best song writers of all time. In Utero sold more records than Soundgarden did in all their disks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundgarden_discography
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_discography

soundgardens follow up only sold 2 million :winkwink:

and PS Nirvana formed in the 80s

I know they formed in the 80s - that's also one of the reason I didn't mention them - they didn't become a cohesive unit until Dave Grohl joined in 1990 - playing 3 chords and having every song sound almost the same is not being a great songwriter, heh, unless you come from the punk school of songwriting and In Utero wasn't selling for shit until he died - it was considered a dissapointing follow-up - so they had one huge album - whoohoo

Funny how you don't mention Metallica's James Hedfield there

His lyrics are some of the best ever written. Still sold more than soundgardens cds together. But then again its not about records sold.

I am a ROCK GIRL!!! Always have been always will!!! The candy ass music today has killed any desire for me to buy a CD. When I graduated High School I stopped buying CD's from anyone new, so I thought maybe it was me getting older and not into the whole, OMG this band rocks. But thinking about it now I realize it's because there are no new ROCKIN bands since I graduated in '91.

I just watch the 100 Most Metal Moments over the weekend. Axel Rose jumping off stage to kick this guy?s ass!!! I laughed so hard! haha Oh the memories of killer music and wild tough crazy guys. Even though I was in high school for the end of the great rockin roll days, I always live for the 60's, 70's and 80's music. I can't believe how girls think Justin Timberfag is hot. BARF!!! Give me James Hetfield any day of the week!

Metallica and U2 forever baby!!! (and any hair band hehe)

I can't think of one non-rap artist in the past 10 years that fits the criteria:

1. Scares Parents
2. Is at least marginally tough
3. Girls want to fuck on sight
4. Guys want to be
5. Has good music

I'm leaving out the part about is well known in ghetto hoods and the country. I'm just talking about the 5 basics above.

Steven Tyler, Mick Jagger, David Lee Roth and even Axel Rose may have worn tights from time to time but they at least met the criteria above.

Based on all of that, I think Robbie Williams and The Oasis boys WOULD be true rockstars if they had more US success. But, for some reason they can't get arrested over here.

I'm tired of looking at Bono and Edge and thinking to myself, "Damn, those are the last two real Rockstars making popular music."

rob zombie ok his music isnt that great
but Maynard James Keenan fits that to a T

and who the hell wants to be those guys? 120 lbs crack heads?

That sums it up for me, although on a personal level Zack de la Rocha is iconic, but I recognise that he isnt in the league status-wise. Same for the Gallagher brothers.

Amen to that.

Whitesnake?? LMAO!! that was David Coverdale fool.. I guess with your logic Bon Scott was the singer of Van Halen lol. As stickyfingers said.. Sebastian Bach is the front man of SKID ROW.. Not fucking whitesnake.

150 rocking mofos

You are just tool old then. I'm afraid you are as guilty of being way in the past as badmunchkin is guilty of being in college sometime from 1990-1994.