Who do you feel caused the most damage to this industry? - GoFuckYourself.com

seeric · 05-04-2007, 01:17 PM

There are many angles and platforms for damage that I guess you could argue, but singlehandedly who do you feel has done the most damage to online adult since it started?

StickyGreen · 05-04-2007, 01:18 PM

All the easily-accessible free content out there now of course...

fusionx · 05-04-2007, 01:19 PM

George W. Bush

or Jesus.

JFK · 05-04-2007, 01:20 PM

First there were all the ripoffs and over billing , then all the spam

Aneros Josh · 05-04-2007, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fusionx

George W. Bush

or Jesus.

Amen...no pun intended

The Walrus · 05-04-2007, 01:30 PM

Dean Capture

Art Del Gado · 05-04-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by fusionx

George W. Bush

or Jesus.

i like to blame bush for everything

seeric · 05-04-2007, 01:36 PM

how about companies who steal producers content and get away with it and still live and work in the industry like nothing happened?

Karupted Charles · 05-04-2007, 01:38 PM

Ibill DMR or any of the shady companies that they let do shady billing that took them down.

jimthefiend · 05-04-2007, 01:38 PM

Lawrence Conner.

StickyGreen · 05-04-2007, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jimthefiend

Lawrence Conner.

Jman · 05-04-2007, 01:40 PM

LOLOL there's a few names I could post but sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut.

blackfeet · 05-04-2007, 01:40 PM

republicans

The Walrus · 05-04-2007, 01:42 PM

Adult Friend Finder, Cams.com, Sexsearch and Kanye West

fuzebox · 05-04-2007, 01:45 PM

IMO anyone who was offering free trials with two prechecked xsells, hitting the surfer for $100+ in charges within 2 days of signing up. None of those people will ever use a CC online again.

stickyfingerz · 05-04-2007, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

IMO anyone who was offering free trials with two prechecked xsells, hitting the surfer for $100+ in charges within 2 days of signing up. None of those people will ever use a CC online again.

Few of the people responsible for all that mess post here too...

That gets my vote also. People that were out for a quick buck that lost consumer confidence

cwd · 05-04-2007, 02:00 PM

morality :P

LiveDose · 05-04-2007, 02:02 PM

People using sloppy methods to target traffic. For example children's site typo domains. Ridiculous.

We are our own worst enemy. It's pathetic.

chris01282 · 05-04-2007, 02:03 PM

pedo's and spam...

tony286 · 05-04-2007, 02:04 PM

quick buck artists who didnt care who they hurt, acting with no responsibility just to make a buck. Most of our problems can go back to them

Wizzo · 05-04-2007, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JMan

LOLOL there's a few names I could post but sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut.

Exactly...

StuartD · 05-04-2007, 02:08 PM

DMR - a lot of today's crap can be traced back through the past to the examples they set.

aico · 05-04-2007, 02:10 PM

Free Hosted Galleries

JD · 05-04-2007, 02:11 PM

programmers.

Jimmy Rock · 05-04-2007, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

Free Hosted Galleries

Very true... way too much free content out there

Persignup Qon · 05-04-2007, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

quick buck artists who didnt care who they hurt, acting with no responsibility just to make a buck. Most of our problems can go back to them

co-signed

Matt 26z · 05-04-2007, 02:20 PM

A lot of good answers so far, but I'm going with TGP owners as a group. The industry didn't agree one day to flood the internet with galleries containing 15-20 hardcore pics. TGP's got control of the traffic and then strongarmed webmasters into creating "quality" galleries. Now surfers have an unlimited supply of free porn.

Star 69 · 05-04-2007, 02:21 PM

Dirty Franck

Xenophage · 05-04-2007, 02:28 PM

All the guys who raped the customers and billed them multiple times and sucked $100 million plus outta the biz and fucked the surfer so hard they would never pull their credit cards out again. I know one guy who billed 10 million worth of fake charges and then just up and walked the country, the merchant bank closed all the other accounts based on this one guys actions.

Xenophage · 05-04-2007, 02:31 PM

There is a company today that still says free signup and then bangs your card for $6.95 a month. Tons of people promote it. Bottom line people promote what pays the most, and the majority dont care what happens in order to get it.

Also Agree with the DMR and IBILL issue those 2 companies really fucked shit up bad.

Many of the newer people here were not around back then and have no idea how totally off the hook the biz was 5 to 10 years ago.

They dont know where we were so they have no reference to what things are today.

carol.prime · 05-04-2007, 02:32 PM

selfish people...
they do not have any concern...in the end all of us will suffer..

scottybuzz · 05-04-2007, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

There is a company today that still says free signup and then bangs your card for $6.95 a month. Tons of people promote it. Bottom line people promote what pays the most, and the majority dont care what happens in order to get it.

Also Agree with the DMR and IBILL issue those 2 companies really fucked shit up bad.

Many of the newer people here were not around back then and have no idea how totally off the hook the biz was 5 to 10 years ago.

They dont know where we were so they have no reference to what things are today.

interesting, name names lars!

aico · 05-04-2007, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

I know one guy who billed 10 million worth of fake charges and then just up and walked the country, the merchant bank closed all the other accounts based on this one guys actions.

Seth? or more recent?

Xenophage · 05-04-2007, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

Seth? or more recent?

You have been around a while ;)

aico · 05-04-2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

You have been around a while ;)

So you're saying I am not a smart man?

Xenophage · 05-04-2007, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

So you're saying I am not a smart man?

ehheheheh Just choosing my words carefully

You are a smart man

OzMan · 05-04-2007, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

There is a company today that still says free signup and then bangs your card for $6.95 a month. Tons of people promote it. Bottom line people promote what pays the most, and the majority dont care what happens in order to get it...

But they'll refund it if you complain so it's all good.

GatorB · 05-04-2007, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

A lot of good answers so far, but I'm going with TGP owners as a group. The industry didn't agree one day to flood the internet with galleries containing 15-20 hardcore pics. TGP's got control of the traffic and then strongarmed webmasters into creating "quality" galleries. Now surfers have an unlimited supply of free porn.

Yep kind of counterintuitive. Used to be you could use crappy sponsor content with a free host a bunch of banners maybe a pop-up or 2. Now they want fresh high quality content with as little advertising as possible. Excuse me but the whole point of someone of submitting a gallery is to SELL something not to provide surfers with free jack-off material. Galleries should have overused crap content. Free porn sites should be full of advertising and pop-ups. Surfing for free porn should be made as miserable experience as possible. That way the surfer is MOTIVATED to PAY for the HQ fresh content without the pop-ups and ads.

What gets me even more is that these TGPs now expect submitters to pay for this privilege. Considering how crappy TGP traffic is it should be the other way around.

It'd be like if Baskins Robbins version of a free sample was a regular single scoop cone then they ask me if I was willing to pay for a double scoop. I'd say "Um no thanks I'll just keep coming back for my free cone everyday because that's really all I need." Then they sit there wondering why they aren't making hardly any sales.

The Walrus · 05-04-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz

interesting, name names lars!

Webpower Inc. aka iFriends.

the Shemp · 05-04-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Yep kind of counterintuitive. Used to be you could use crappy sponsor content with a free host a bunch of banners maybe a pop-up or 2. Now they want fresh high quality content with as little advertising as possible. Excuse me but the whole point of someone of submitting a gallery is to SELL something not to provide surfers with free jack-off material. Galleries should have overused crap content. Free porn sites should be full of advertising and pop-ups. Surfing for free porn should be made as miserable experience as possible. That way the surfer is MOTIVATED to PAY for the HQ fresh content without the pop-ups and ads.

What gets me even more is that these TGPs now expect submitters to pay for this privilege. Considering how crappy TGP traffic is it should be the other way around.

It'd be like if Baskins Robbins version of a free sample was a regular single scoop cone then they ask me if I was willing to pay for a double scoop. I'd say "Um no thanks I'll just keep coming back for my free cone everyday because that's really all I need." Then they sit there wondering why they aren't making hardly any sales.

90+% of all gallery content is provided free by the sponsors to any goof that claims to be a webmaster...

Murderous · 05-04-2007, 03:14 PM

Lensman for creating this damned forum... how does anyone get anything done?

GatorB · 05-04-2007, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

90+% of all gallery content is provided free by the sponsors to any goof that claims to be a webmaster...

I can 100% guarantee you that galllery submitters are NOT submitting FHG to TGPs. Show a TGP that accepts FHG and I'll show you an idiot.

AaronM · 05-04-2007, 03:24 PM

LOL....Nobody is naming the name.

A few of you are on the right track but seems that people are too afraid to actually type his name.

Mot sure why but if Lars is keeping his mouth shut then I guess I should too.

the Shemp · 05-04-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

I can 100% guarantee you that galllery submitters are NOT submitting FHG to TGPs. Show a TGP that accepts FHG and I'll show you an idiot.

where did i mention FHGs?
im talking about the content on the galleries...
it's from the sponsors and available in great quantities..

AaronM · 05-04-2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

I can 100% guarantee you that galllery submitters are NOT submitting FHG to TGPs. Show a TGP that accepts FHG and I'll show you an idiot.

Where did Shemp say anything about FHG's?

AaronM · 05-04-2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

where did i mention FHGs?
im talking about the content on the galleries...
it's from the sponsors and available in great quantities..

I rest my case.

pornguy · 05-04-2007, 03:27 PM

I would have to say the CC rips offs by the companies..

scottybuzz · 05-04-2007, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Walrus

Webpower Inc. aka iFriends.

oh shit... i signed up to them a while back to check out the insides of it

i hope i cancelled properly!

D-Money · 05-04-2007, 03:51 PM

newbie employees of big programs.

GatorB · 05-04-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

where did i mention FHGs?
im talking about the content on the galleries...
it's from the sponsors and available in great quantities..

Well I haven't been in the TGP thng in awhile. I do know for a fact about 5 years ago most of you guys stopped accepting galleries with sponsor content or so your rules stated. Almost every tgp had a rule "No Sponsor Content. Our surfers want FRESH content" So now you've changed that?

05-04-2007, 01:17 PM	#1
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05-04-2007, 01:18 PM	#2
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05-04-2007, 01:20 PM	#4
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05-04-2007, 01:38 PM	#9
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05-04-2007, 01:40 PM	#12
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05-04-2007, 01:19 PM	#3
fusionx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Olongapo City, Philippines Posts: 4,618	George W. Bush or Jesus.

05-04-2007, 01:30 PM	#6
The Walrus So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 898	Dean Capture

05-04-2007, 01:36 PM	#8
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	how about companies who steal producers content and get away with it and still live and work in the industry like nothing happened?

05-04-2007, 01:38 PM	#10
jimthefiend So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: icq: 121189 Posts: 18,889	Lawrence Conner.

05-04-2007, 01:40 PM	#13
blackfeet Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 589	republicans

05-04-2007, 01:42 PM	#14
The Walrus So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 898	Adult Friend Finder, Cams.com, Sexsearch and Kanye West

05-04-2007, 01:45 PM	#15
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,114	IMO anyone who was offering free trials with two prechecked xsells, hitting the surfer for $100+ in charges within 2 days of signing up. None of those people will ever use a CC online again.

05-04-2007, 02:00 PM	#17
cwd Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In a dream Posts: 1,955	morality :P

05-04-2007, 02:02 PM	#18
LiveDose Show Yer Tits! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere Out there... Posts: 25,792	People using sloppy methods to target traffic. For example children's site typo domains. Ridiculous. We are our own worst enemy. It's pathetic. __________________ Scammer Alert: acer19 acer [email protected] [email protected] Money stolen using PayPal

05-04-2007, 02:03 PM	#19
chris01282 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 370	pedo's and spam... __________________ [img]http://****************/sig/fhv3_b_468x60.gif[/img]

05-04-2007, 02:04 PM	#20
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	quick buck artists who didnt care who they hurt, acting with no responsibility just to make a buck. Most of our problems can go back to them

05-04-2007, 02:08 PM	#22
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05-04-2007, 02:10 PM	#23
aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	Free Hosted Galleries

05-04-2007, 02:11 PM	#24
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05-04-2007, 02:20 PM	#27
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	A lot of good answers so far, but I'm going with TGP owners as a group. The industry didn't agree one day to flood the internet with galleries containing 15-20 hardcore pics. TGP's got control of the traffic and then strongarmed webmasters into creating "quality" galleries. Now surfers have an unlimited supply of free porn.

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05-04-2007, 02:28 PM	#29
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	All the guys who raped the customers and billed them multiple times and sucked $100 million plus outta the biz and fucked the surfer so hard they would never pull their credit cards out again. I know one guy who billed 10 million worth of fake charges and then just up and walked the country, the merchant bank closed all the other accounts based on this one guys actions.

05-04-2007, 02:31 PM	#30
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	There is a company today that still says free signup and then bangs your card for $6.95 a month. Tons of people promote it. Bottom line people promote what pays the most, and the majority dont care what happens in order to get it. Also Agree with the DMR and IBILL issue those 2 companies really fucked shit up bad. Many of the newer people here were not around back then and have no idea how totally off the hook the biz was 5 to 10 years ago. They dont know where we were so they have no reference to what things are today. Last edited by Xenophage; 05-04-2007 at 02:33 PM..

05-04-2007, 02:32 PM	#31
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05-04-2007, 03:14 PM	#41
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05-04-2007, 03:24 PM	#43
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	LOL....Nobody is naming the name. A few of you are on the right track but seems that people are too afraid to actually type his name. Mot sure why but if Lars is keeping his mouth shut then I guess I should too.

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