Zango on the run ? Building for lease. Anyone looking for office space ?

[will76]

I was informed that zango has moved out of their Seattle location. From the information I received they moved out pretty quick.



Picture above shows the for lease sign in front of their building.

So are they on the run ? Losing money and down sizing ? Anyone have any info ?

Looks like a good building to lease, do you think anyone here would want to move in?

[Brujah]

Zango has been purchased by Lars.

[will76]

Originally Posted by Brujah

Zango has been purchased by Lars.

I don't know about that but look at this shit. Looks like some space came available in Zango's building and two new companies moved in









They didn't waste any time.

[RawAlex]

Have you considered that maybe they made enough money and moved to a newer and larger building? Sudden moves aren't always negative.

That being said, they could relocate over the border into Canada and escape the FTC.

[will76]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Have you considered that maybe they made enough money and moved to a newer and larger building? Sudden moves aren't always negative.

That being said, they could relocate over the border into Canada and escape the FTC.

I don't know what happened but I doubt it was a move to a bigger building. I know they opened offices in NYC and i believe someone posted a craigslist classified by zango looking for employees somewhere in canada. So they seemed to be growing by opening new locations. That is a big building too.

who knows anyone have any info.

We can have some fun photo shopping at least

[Brujah]

haha.. the Zango / AFF / SexSearch building.

[Brad Mitchell]

Jesus.. you should come to Southeast Michigan - every commercial property in all the best areas has a for sale or lease sign in front of it! Thank you Mr. President, Mrs. Governor with honorable mentions going to GM, Ford, Chrysler and Pfizer!

Just for the sake of argument, I would say that most moves happen quickly - usually a ton of movers show up and do that shit fast!



Brad

[TheSenator]

How embarrassing????

[WiredGuy]

Wow, your turning out to be a full blown stalker for Zango aren't you!
WG

[Makingcoin]

Didn't you post this info weeks ago?

[kektex]

Hehe nice ´chop...any more photoshop artists around?

[RawAlex]

I will also add this: Near my house is a 5 story office building that use to have a big "Speedware" on the top (the people from Gammae will know where I am talking about). The reality is that while their name was on the building, they were only occupying a percentage of the overall building.

Zango would be doing themselves a favor to move out of the US, as they are really risking running into more FTC trouble (their install methods are still as scummy as ever, with prechecked "approval" boxes and the download button disguised as "play video" or "play game" rather than "install scumware".)

[TDF]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Wow, your turning out to be a full blown stalker for Zango aren't you!
WG

some people need something to crusade against i guess

[Brad Mitchell]

Originally Posted by TDF

some people need something to crusade against i guess

If Will was into Jesus attendance would be up on Sundays

Brad

[pocketkangaroo]

Maybe they need new IP addresses to work off of.

http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4287

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Maybe they need new IP addresses to work off of.

http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4287

I am starting to think that Zango and AFF share the media advisors. At least SexSearch learned to shut up and just pay for GFY banners.

[TampaToker]

since we talkin about zango

http://www.clickz.com/showPage.html?page=3625262

House Hears IAB, DMA, TRUSTe and Others on Stalled Spyware Bill
? ? ? ClickZ News

By Kate Kaye | March 16, 2007

Representatives of marketers, online ad firms and privacy watchdogs convened in the Rayburn House Office Building yesterday for a subcommittee hearing to revisit spyware legislation originally introduced in 2003. While witnesses representing Internet advertisers supported the legislation on the whole, they expressed concern about the potential for the bill to infringe too greatly on their business practices, hindering access to free, ad-supported Web content. Despite their apprehension, the hearing and related bill could amount to a proverbial tree falling in the legislative woods.

Members of the Subcommittee on Commerce, Trade, and Consumer Protection, a subdivision of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, came together to reiterate the need for passage of H.R. 964, The Spy Act, legislation aimed at protecting Web users' personal privacy -- and to a lesser degree -- plain old aggravation caused by unwanted spyware downloads.

Present was a panel of five witnesses providing perspectives on the proposed law. Internet watchdogs were represented by TRUSTe and the Center for Democracy and Technology (CDT), while representatives from adware firm Zango, behavioral targeting firm Tacoda, the Interactive Advertising Bureau (IAB) and the Direct Marketing Association (DMA) stood in for the online ad industry.

Witnesses concurred most of the main provisions of the "Securely Protect Yourself Against Cyber Trespass Act" are worthy of putting into law. Agreeable stipulations prohibit unauthorized or uncontrollable computer takeover by software, delivery of ads that are difficult to close, collection of personally-identifiable information through keystroke logging and misrepresentation or removal of security software. The legislation would also require notice and consent before software installation.

Then came the caveats. Two sections of the bill in particular were bones of contention for witnesses. Section 3 is deemed potentially too far-reaching by both the DMA and the IAB.

Along with others on the panel, Jerry Cerasale, the DMA's SVP government affairs, commended the subcommittee's efforts on the bill as a catalyst for industry self-regulation, Federal Trade Commission anti-spyware action, and statewide spyware legislation. But he expressed concern that Section 3 of the proposed legislation "goes further than we would want." The bill, he added, should "strike the balance for consumer choice plus advertiser- and marketing-supported Internet content."

The section deals with the collection of information about Web pages visited by users to deliver ads. Dave Morgan, a panelist representing both the IAB as chairman of its Public Policy Council and Tacoda as founder and chairman, worried the section's provisions would create a "one-size-fits-all definition" for technologies used to target and deliver advertising. "There's not a lot of clarity of how Java or AJAX would be treated," he told ClickZ News after the hearing session.

"The view is that what the bill should focus on is the bad behavior," said Morgan, noting the original intent of the legislation was to penalize spyware purveyors, not craft broad regulations on constantly-evolving Internet technologies.

The "Good Samaritan Protection," Section 5 of the legislation, protects providers of anti-spyware applications used to remove software violating Sections 2 or 3. No one on the witness panel was too keen on the stipulation.

"Zango urges the committee to delete subsection 5C," said Christine Varney, esquire, an attorney representing adware firm Zango on the panel. Previously 180solutions, Zango settled with the FTC in November of last year, agreeing to pay $3 million in ill-gotten gains for using deceptive methods to install adware on users' computers and block its removal.

Witnesses were concerned the Good Samaritan provision could unjustly protect companies with applications that categorize legitimate software as spyware, or dupe users into downloading spyware that masquerades as a spyware-remover.

The Spy Act has been passed twice by the House, but still awaits Senate approval. Indeed, subcommittee members expressed amazement that the Senate continues to stall passage. The bill's limbo status "is a mystery to me," said Joe Barton, Congressman from Texas.

Sources familiar with the stage of the legislation, however, doubt a third passage by the House will be the charm that moves it to the President's desk. With the Senate fully focused on Iraq, sudden dismissals of U.S. Attorneys General, and other hefty matters, it's unlikely The Spy Act or similar Senate legislation will hit the Senate floor anytime soon.

Even if it is passed into law, in its current state, the Act would sunset in 2014.

[hand-held]

There are three buildings in the complex. Zango was in two of them, and the last time I was there the other had space available. Threw my Slurpee cup away in their garbage bins - let them pay for my crap for once.

[will76]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Wow, your turning out to be a full blown stalker for Zango aren't you!
WG

yeah, I flew to Seattle to take the picture

[will76]

Originally Posted by Makingcoin

Didn't you post this info weeks ago?

Last week I was told that they moved out of their building. Today I received photo confirmation and thought I would share with everyone.

[polish_aristocrat]

Originally Posted by will76

Last week I was told that they moved out of their building. Today I received photo confirmation and thought I would share with everyone.

who took the pic?

[will76]

Originally Posted by hand-held

There are three buildings in the complex. Zango was in two of them, and the last time I was there the other had space available. Threw my Slurpee cup away in their garbage bins - let them pay for my crap for once.

Looks like the other two spots just got leased up.

[will76]

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

who took the pic?

Bruno, he bills out at $250 an hour.

I have him going through their trash as we speak.

[hand-held]

Point being the sign was there then just not as prominent and Zango was definitely still there. I'll have to drive by this weekend.

[lazycash]

Seems Zango's head guy doesn't like how his company's image is being portrayed so he's trying to change it - http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4287

[fris]

i would think they would have 180solutions on their building not zango

[NTSS]

Originally Posted by will76

I don't know about that but look at this shit. Looks like some space came available in Zango's building and two new companies moved in









They didn't waste any time.

[moneybiz]

I hear they make over 1million a month in profit so doubt they are bankrupt.

[StarkReality]

Originally Posted by Fris

i would think they would have 180solutions on their building not zango

Too much bad press for 180solutions, a class action lawsuit, problems with the FTC, so they changed the name after the merger with hotbar.

[Chris]

or they have made so much money they are moving to a larger space?

[TDF]

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

If Will was into Jesus attendance would be up on Sundays

Brad

jeez brad you made me spit orange juice on the monitor

[cherrylula]

All this free promo they must be movin' on up.

[Nikki_Licks]

Originally Posted by will76

I don't know about that but look at this shit. Looks like some space came available in Zango's building and two new companies moved in









They didn't waste any time.

[Kenny B!]

Originally Posted by will76

They didn't waste any time.

Okay that's really funny!

[DWB]

Originally Posted by moneybiz

I hear they make over 1million a month in profit so doubt they are bankrupt.

MC Hammer and TLC would disagree with you.

[Quickdraw]

Looks like they recently filed some lawsuits in that state though.
http://dockets.justia.com/search?q=Zango+Inc

[beerptrol]

They probabaly bought the building nextdoor to Halliburton in Dubai

[will76]

Originally Posted by moneybiz

I hear they make over 1million a month in profit so doubt they are bankrupt.

I think they make a lot more than that. They grossed 50 million back in 2004, I am sure they are doing a lot more than that now. I would have to think their profit margin is more than 1%

[KaliC]

Most signs are just rented space for image purposes, they might of had a small office maybe more. Who knows.

[OzMan]

Originally Posted by will76

I think they make a lot more than that. They grossed 50 million back in 2004, I am sure they are doing a lot more than that now. I would have to think their profit margin is more than 1%

70 million in 2006 according to them.

Fast forward to 31:38 in the video below

http://blogs.salesforce.com/dreamfor...g_the_top.html

[hand-held]

Originally Posted by KaliC

Most signs are just rented space for image purposes, they might of had a small office maybe more. Who knows.

No, they had two buildings pretty damn full. My guess is they've got bigger space since they couldn't get the third building. Their website still lists their HQ there though.

[96ukssob]

a lot of times offices rent out unused space. they may have a few smaller suites in the back they are leasing out

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

Jesus.. you should come to Southeast Michigan - every commercial property in all the best areas has a for sale or lease sign in front of it! Thank you Mr. President, Mrs. Governor with honorable mentions going to GM, Ford, Chrysler and Pfizer!

Just for the sake of argument, I would say that most moves happen quickly - usually a ton of movers show up and do that shit fast!



Brad

TRUE DAT

[martinsc]

Originally Posted by will76

I don't know about that but look at this shit. Looks like some space came available in Zango's building and two new companies moved in









They didn't waste any time.

[DaddyHalbucks]

Interesting. I bet they made alot of money, but the business model may not sustain for long.

[HighSociety]

I just saw this building , true stuff

[Sami]

I think the chances of them upgrading to a bigger building is alot higher than them downgrading.

[hand-held]

Ok, so I was stuck in traffic and decided to drive by. They've vacated one of their two buildings and there's definitely what I'd call a skeleton crew in the other. They have to have moved somewhere - layoffs that big don't go unreported around here, especially somewhere so... juicy.

[OzMan]

Originally Posted by hand-held

Ok, so I was stuck in traffic and decided to drive by. They've vacated one of their two buildings and there's definitely what I'd call a skeleton crew in the other. They have to have moved somewhere - layoffs that big don't go unreported around here, especially somewhere so... juicy.

you saw all that from a drive by?

[hand-held]

Originally Posted by OzMan

you saw all that from a drive by?

Pulled into the lot and drove around for a minute. Wasn't going to get anywhere during rush hour in Factoria anyways.