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baddog

hahahahahaha

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Got a link to the organizers of this thing, by chance?

I'd like to check it out before I spread the gospel.

And why is it limited to internet users?

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BAKO

I'm in

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thehand

great idea I'm in!

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baddog

If it is on the Internet it must be true.

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No faith in the power of protest, bro?

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campimp

or you could just sell your car if you want to really make a difference

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Ah... ya, I hear ya.

I'm willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt until he links a geocities page as his source.

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pornguy

even if he is trying to start it, I think its a great idea

Imagine if we could get people not to buy for 3 or 4 days.

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Yeah, like I'm going to ride a bicycle 23 miles to the office and then another 23 back home that day when it's likely going to be 100 degrees out....blah...I'll be like the rest of the idiots and pay the $3.10 a gallon...no buses either..the local bus here would take me 2 and a half hours to get to work...the key to saving on gas is carpooling...

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King Adam

Its not limited to Internet users. It was stated that way since this was posted online and if you are not an internet user ... then you'd obviously not see it. It was just wording .. shouldn't be that big of a deal.

I will try to get the link to the resource. My aunt told me about it.

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campimp

that is true... i havent driven in a year and half after moving from america to romania which puts me a little out of touch with the situation (thank god)... but im going to be in hawaii this summer... i guess im going to be feeling your pain at the pump soon enough.... i hate to even think what im going to be paying for a gallon there... ouch

King Adam

thanks .... thats the idea.

Not sure why there are haters in this thread. Doesn't make any sense to me. If you want to do it, then do it. If you don't and just want to be negative ... than move on.

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madawgz

i dont own a car so i wont buy any gas ;)

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King Adam

Thanks for the sarcasm and negativity. I guess you just need a hug or something.

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baddog

I am all about protests, have been ever since Nam, however, kids these days couldn't do a proper protest if their lives depended on it (which it really could).

Anyway, the reason I scoff at this is because it is pure bullshit, recycled every decade (at least): http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/nogas.asp

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AR-Melody

Thats pretty cool! I will definently make sure I have a full tank.

AaronM

Lets think about this for a minute....

Over the last 15+ years we have seen at least one of these scheduled protests each year. So please tell us why this one day protest is going to make any more of a difference than the past 15 of them.

In fact....On May 15th I will be sure to fill up.....If I fill up on the 14th then I will make a considerable effort to empty at least half the tank so that I may refill again on the 15th.

If you want to make a difference and protest this sort of shit then maybe you should consider a hybrid car or something along those lines.

A one day protest of high gas prices is about as effective as a One Man March. When you are ready to protest for a million days, back to back, please let me know so I can join you. Until then, I'll keep sucking the over priced gas through my SUV.

baddog

Of course, there have been variations . . . ie; just don't buy Mobil gas: http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/gasout.asp

King Adam

So whats your point? You think that just cause its not a huge major professional protest, its not worth it?

Come on man, every little bit helps.

But then again, maybe you just don't give a fuck.

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baddog

Adam . . . do you really think they are going to lower prices if you wait until the 16th to fill up? Are you familiar with the concept of supply and demand? What do you think is going to happen when everyone decides to get gas on the 16th? . . . besides the longer lines that is.

King Adam

Man, thats like saying why should I give a dollar to help the starving kids in the country. Whats a dollar gonna do?

The whole point is to do what you can when you can. It makes no difference how much you do or how long. All that matters is that you do something.

No offense but your attitude is whats wrong with a lot of people. You don't think trying and giving a little is worth your time. I'm sorry you feel that way.

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King Adam

No I don't think they will lower prices. To be honest, I don't think its going to do much of anything. But, I will still do it. There is nothing wrong with doing things that stand and symbolize for something good.

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King Adam

Have you ever walked for breast cancer?

Have you ever worn one of those colored bracelets?

Have you ever donated money to a good cause?

Have you ever volunteered at a shelter for a day?

My guess is that many people don't do these things. I could do all of them and it wouldn't help the overall problem. Do you think me walking for breast cancer is going to help them with a cure? NO.

Its about thinking positive and doing the same. If everyone just helped a little, it would make a difference. Start standing up for whats good and maybe you can get someone else to do the same.

The only way we can make a real difference is to do it together.

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baddog

I hate to cut and paste, but I can't state it better than they:

The premise is inherently flawed, because consumers' not buying gasoline on one particular day doesn't affect oil companies at all. The "gas out" scheme doesn't call upon people to use less gasoline, but simply to shift their date of purchase and buy gas a day earlier or later than they usually would The very same amount of gasoline is sold either way, so oil companies don't lose any money

By definition, a boycott involves the doing without of something, with the renunciation of the boycotted product held up as tangible proof to those who supply the commodity that consumers are prepared to do without it unless changes are made. What the "gas out" calls for isn't consumers' swearing off using or buying gasoline, even for a short time, but simply shifting their purchases by a couple of days at most. Because the "gas out" doesn't call on consumers to make a sacrifice by actually giving up something, the threat it poses is a hollow one.

See, I have been part of a boycott before . . . probably before you were born. The boycott was to not buy iceberg lettuce or grapes, and it was to help the Mexican field workers get higher wages.

This boycott went on for years before it had enough effect on the farmers that we were able to stop the boycott and declare it a success.

You are not boycotting shit, unless you give up using your car for a couple years, and get all your Myspace friends to do the same.

pocketkangaroo

The whole concept is flawed. If you want to change prices, people would need to stop using gas, not buying on a day. All your plan does is increase slaes on the 14th and 16th. Nothing changes.

A better idea would make the 15th a day where everyone car pools, walks to work, rides a bike, etc. Unless you change the demand for gas, prices won't change.

AaronM

FYI....About those containers on the counter where people donate their dollars and change....

The containers are rented / licensed to people. I forget what the fee is but as I recall, it's 15 or 25 bucks a month. So, I can place one on a counter at 7-11 and pay Jerry's Kids $20 or so.....And I then pocket anything over the fee.

So....No, I would never give a dollar to charity. I will take my 20 bucks and deliver it direct instead.

IllTestYourGirls

if I do not buy on the 15th, I need to buy twice as much on the 16th

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baddog

The difference being that those things you listed above are fund raisers, so money is raised for research into curing those ills.

Your "gas out" is not.


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it will never work unfortunately.

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King Adam

Dude, I didn't say put money in a BS box at the 7-11. I'm talking about making a donation to a major non-profit org that represents a specific area.

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King Adam

I didn't realize doing volunteer work was considerd a fund raiser or had anything to do with money. They are simply examples of doing good things to and for the people around us.

But keep up the negative attitude. It will do you wonders.

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King Adam

Good idea. I didn't come up with the current idea. Just simply passing it along. But your ideas are much better and do make more sense.

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StuBradley

Uhm, shouldn't they be asking people to not CONSUME gas for one day. Just avoiding putting fuel in your tank on a certain day does absolutely nothing to the oil company's profits. Everyone will just fill up on May 16th instead.

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always a good idea.. but never practical

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AaronM

So when was the last time you donate a single buck directly to a cause like this?

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so my question is this, if we don't pump gas on the 15th of may, i doubt everyones gonna stop doing what they need to, so they will either fill up the 14th, and then again on the 16th, causing extra income then normal on those days, which means it won't hurt them one bit

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Asking for a source is hate?

I just asked for a source because if I'd partake in something like this, I'd most likely at least mention it to people I know and love as well..

And if I'm going to put my mark on something, I'd like to know where it came from and all I can about it.

"Some guy from the internet said" doesn't typically fly in my circles, man.

I don't think wanting to understand something is "hate"... generally it's a lack of understanding that brings about "hate."

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People will still spend the same amount because they will just fill up before the day before it, and then again after the few days...

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You would think that in 15 years they would have figured out that you have to affect the demand to make this work. Why don't they call for everyone to stay at home on the same day?

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baddog

3/4 of your list was fund raising. Sorry I just scanned your post.

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Heh, this isn't my thing, man... aside from asking for a reference on this organized dealio, I was just wondering where Lloyd was coming from.

but maybe you weren't directing that all at me.

Speaking for myself, I do what I can to limit my personal intake of petroleum-based products... not necessarily for the cost reasons - but for reasons of my own... and while I agree with you in the premise that one day probably wont do much if anything, I think it's at least moving in the right direction, I think.

Maybe someone'll forget to fill up the day before, but not wanting to violate the protest, realize how easy it is to take public transportation to work... and he'll, in turn, help other people realize that.

Or maybe it'll open discussion about the whole petroleum thing to some people who haven't really thought about the situation before.

And, maybe there'll actually be a dip in crude consumption this quarter, and big oil can identify this quarter as one in which there was also a protest in gas prices.

I don't know what it'll do and what it won't do... I'm not pretending to. But I do have to say something's better than nothing.

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baddog

If you really want to help, buy and use a motorcycle instead of cars/trucks.

Will ease congestion and pollution as well.

Penthouse Tony

For those that still don't get why this doesn't amount to anything think of it like this:

If you have a daily pill you take made by a large pharmaceutical every morning at 8am sharp. How much harm are you causing to the large pharmaceutical if you take that pill at 7am one morning?

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D

I'd love to do nothing more, but I fear I'd cause my mother an early death and my girlfriend to leave me.

Maybe in a few more years... I'll give ya a ring and we'll get a group to head on down to Daytona.

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