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04-26-2007, 04:36 PM

There are very serious disorders in Tallinn (Estonia). About 2000 citizens protest against dismantling of monument to Russian soldiers who was fighting against Nazi Germany (as far as you know Estonia is the EUROPEAN country which officially supports fascism and praises Estonian SS veterans who killed over 100,000 of Jews during WWII)

So guys. Did you hear anything about it on CNN/FOX/Euro News? Is that you call a freedom of speech?

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04-26-2007, 04:41 PM

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There are very serious disorders in Tallinn (Estonia). About 2000 citizens protest against dismantling of monument to Russian soldiers who was fighting against Nazi Germany (as far as you know Estonia is the EUROPEAN country which officially supports fascism and praises Estonian SS veterans who killed over 100,000 of Jews during WWII)

So guys. Did you hear anything about it on CNN/FOX/Euro News? Is that you call a freedom of speech?

Well you're not being prevented from saying it. As far as I can tell nobody is preventing any American news agency from reporting on this. Freedom of speech is not a guaranteed press pass. Seriously, smarten up.

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04-26-2007, 04:41 PM

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/storie...04/27/011.html

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04-26-2007, 04:43 PM

you mean the same Russian's that raped killed and plundered Estonia during ww2?
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04-26-2007, 04:43 PM

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Well you're not being prevented from saying it. As far as I can tell nobody is preventing any American news agency from reporting on this. Freedom of speech is not a guaranteed press pass. Seriously, smarten up.

So there is a freedom of speech in every country, which has an access to the Internet right? So what's the fuck someone here told me there is no freedom of speech in Russia? There is also Internet in Russia and it's not restricted/fildered like in China.

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04-26-2007, 04:50 PM

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you mean the same Russian's that raped killed and plundered Estonia during ww2?

Raped killed and plundered Estonia during ww2??? Are you crazy man??? As far as I know the only ppl. who raped killed and plundered Estonia during ww2 were the guys from Estonian SS group. They killed ALL Jews (over 100,000) even before the German army come there... Learn history man, or at least listen what says official Israel about that times. They know for sure who raped killed and plundered them in Estonia during ww2...

BTW here is an example of Estonian monument to the Estonian "heroes":

And no one cares to remove it...

Congrats to the EU guys, you just got a very good Nazi neighbor, but your shitty governments keep silence about it.

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04-26-2007, 04:57 PM

Above: Estonian volunteers in the German Luftwaffe receive decorations, 1943. Note the Estonian arm flash on the right hand uniform sleeve.

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04-26-2007, 04:59 PM

It was in the NY times about three weeks ago. you should not all your news from the tv

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04-26-2007, 05:03 PM

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04-26-2007, 05:04 PM

excuse me, but what the fuck does this have to do with freedom of speech in the US?
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04-26-2007, 05:05 PM

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It was in the NY times about three weeks ago. you should not all your news from the tv

Not weeks ago! The serious disorders in Tallinn just happened TODAY!

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04-26-2007, 05:09 PM

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excuse me, but what the fuck does this have to do with freedom of speech in the US?

Aren't CNN and FOX the US media? It was important enough for CNN and FOX to wail about four and a half demonstrators that cries "Freedom to Chechnya!" just a few years ago. But now mass disorders is Tallinn is "nothing special" to tell about. Right?

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04-26-2007, 06:06 PM

Not weeks ago! The serious disorders in Tallinn just happened TODAY!

I know they did have a piece about the plans to remove it. This was not suprise

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04-26-2007, 07:41 PM

I don't like this thread.................

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04-26-2007, 07:47 PM

since when is a 2000 person protest somewhere in the world supposed to be headline news in the USA?

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04-27-2007, 10:01 AM

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since when is a 2000 person protest somewhere in the world supposed to be headline news in the USA?

moron.

I'm not talking about the US headline news. I'm talking about total silence in the western media.

There is something like a stating of civil war in Estonia - police and army sent to Tallinn, Estonian soldiers of Russian nationality do not want to take a weapon and some even desert their military units) There are mass disorders Tallinn, entrance to the capital is closed etc. Course it's nothing to tell about on world's news media, because it's not a 3-ppl march of Chechen "rebels" as it was very popular to show 10 times a day by CNN/FOX and EuroNews just a few years ago.

Course when this situation in Estonia turns into a real civil war with many victims even the CNN will be "dare" enough to tell about it.

BTW, why do you signed your message "moron", is that your second name, or even the first one? Moron Pleasurepays or Pleasurepays Moron?

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04-27-2007, 10:03 AM

That was back in the last millennium right...

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04-27-2007, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

I'm not talking about the US headline news. I'm talking about total silence in the western media.

There is something like a stating of civil war in Estonia - police and army sent to Tallinn, Estonian soldiers of Russian nationality do not want to take a weapon and some even desert their military units) There are mass disorders Tallinn, entrance to the capital is closed etc. Course it's nothing to tell about on world's news media, because it's not a 3-ppl march of Chechen "rebels" as it was very popular to show 10 times a day by CNN/FOX and EuroNews just a few years ago.

Course when this situation in Estonia turns into a real civil war with many victims even the CNN will be "dare" enough to tell about it.

BTW, why do you signed your message "moron", is that your second name, or even the first one? Moron Pleasurepays or Pleasurepays Moron?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe...eut/index.html

if you spoke better english, i could make fun of you. if you speak russian.. feel free so i can spend a few minutes explaining why you are irrelevant and that there is no "news" anymore on major networks. its called "infotainment" and no one cares about a protest until people are getting killed.. otherwise its just a group of unhappy people.. like the other 6 billion who all have something to bitch about on this planet.
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04-27-2007, 10:17 AM

First, this has nothing to do with freedom of speech. You're pissed about an editorial decision by the news not to make this a prominent story. As for it not being covered:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...hpid=sec-world

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6599937.stm

http://news.bostonherald.com/interna...ticleid=197158

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/...ap3661934.html

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...d/4755172.html

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/w...a-russia-.html

And about 100+ other major news publications in the US and UK.
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04-27-2007, 10:27 AM

In other news.. my cock is slightly chaffed..
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04-27-2007, 10:32 AM

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In other news.. my cock is slightly chaffed..

That is interesting... this is the second thread I've noticed today that the new parrott term, "my cock is chaffed" is used. Did it take long to learn that??

It's prob to much fucking with Japanese schoolgirls or jerking off over your pedo marketing conversion rates

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04-27-2007, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by Webby

That is interesting... this is the second thread I've noticed today that the new parrott term, "my cock is chaffed" is used. Did it take long to learn that??

It's prob to much fucking with Japanese schoolgirls or jerking off over your pedo marketing conversion rates

Still below 1:70 thanks for asking!!

How is our fat sweaty gray haired balding ass boil from Costa Rica doing today? How is your questionable business going?

Btw you accuse me of trolling, yet you are the one that follows me about the board accusing me of pedo shit. Cunt.
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04-27-2007, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by Pleasurepays

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe...eut/index.html

April 27th. Wow, seems CNN is really fast LOL

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if you spoke better english, i could make fun of you.

I don't know such a language at all, so please make fun of yourself, kid and don't forget to visit a school at least a few times a month

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04-27-2007, 10:50 AM

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Still below 1:70 thanks for asking!!

That's nice - pleased the "little girl fucking" sites are converting well - tho hardly a surprise when marketing to pedos and much as expected.

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04-27-2007, 10:55 AM

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That's nice - pleased the "little girl fucking" sites are converting well - tho hardly a surprise when marketing to pedos and much as expected.

You cock still itching Daddy?

Eventually you'll step over a line...
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04-27-2007, 11:01 AM

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Eventually you'll step over a line...

I know exactly where the "line" is (and this has nothing to do with your whining about GFY rules) - the problem is you don't.

You purvey/promote sites which market pedo fantasies with portraying "little girls fucking" and too dumb to know they are contrary to USC 2257 - even in TN (and in most countries of the western world) What bit do you not understand???

PS You want me to pull the previous threads up with your bullshit??? *lol*

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04-27-2007, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by Webby

I know exactly where the "line" is (and this has nothing to do with your whining about GFY rules) - the problem is you don't.

You purvey/promote sites which market pedo fantasies with portraying "little girls fucking" and too dumb to know they are contrary to USC 2257 - even in TN (and in most countries of the western world) What bit do you not understand???

PS You want me to pull the previous threads up with your bullshit??? *lol*

You should really use that multi celled brain.. 2 I guess? Tenacity.
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04-27-2007, 11:09 AM

You need to understand something about the press in the US. it is all about money, and right now, the new presidential race is more important, and brings more money than 2000 people bitching about something in a small country that most of the world could not locate on a globe.

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04-27-2007, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

You should really use that multi celled brain.. 2 I guess? Tenacity.

I'll assume from that that you do understand and admit to pandering to pedo fantasies and contravening laws

There sure is something ironic/sick in a 30 something "supposed" adult with a young family pandering to the word's sicko pedo human waste. But what ya expect from a spineless wannabee with no moral fibre

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04-27-2007, 11:24 AM

lol, fuck the russians.

i think i am going to frame this on my wall
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04-27-2007, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

Still below 1:70 thanks for asking!!

How is our fat sweaty gray haired balding ass boil from Costa Rica doing today? How is your questionable business going?

Btw you accuse me of trolling, yet you are the one that follows me about the board accusing me of pedo shit. Cunt.

you are still a scumbag selling cp looking content to pedos.
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04-27-2007, 11:35 AM

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lol, fuck the russians.
i think i am going to frame this on my wall

You better frame those ones:

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04-27-2007, 11:39 AM

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You better frame those ones:

Nothing to do with this thread.... just think that's damned funny

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04-27-2007, 11:46 AM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,268998,00.html

I don't see the "freedom of speech" issue. This is not headline news in the US because:

1. What, one person died? Not much of a story for something happening on the other side of the globe.

2. Most Americans have never even heard of Estonia

3. A judge decided today that Larry Birkhead Can Leave the Bahamas With His and Anna Nicole Smith's Daughter

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Story #3 Something about soccer; errrr "football".

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04-27-2007, 11:48 AM

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I don't see the "freedom of speech" issue. [/QUOTE]

Thread headline is kinda misleading. Agree... not exactly a "freedom of speech" issue.

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04-27-2007, 12:01 PM

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you are still a scumbag selling cp looking content to pedos.

People who cant separate fantasy from reality need to find a new line of work imo..
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04-27-2007, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

People who cant separate fantasy from reality need to find a new line of work imo..

Your humble opinion is totally irrelevant - as it is on most things.

The relevant issues are the laws relating to pedo-pandering/marketing. You are not only contravening US law, but also the laws of most western countries (and a few others). This is not my humble opinion - it is a fact.

You pander to pedos and market sicko fantasy content portraying "little girls fucking" and actually boast about it and post stupid comments about your "school girl fantasies" in an attempt to defend it. You are both sick and stupid

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04-27-2007, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

There are very serious disorders in Tallinn (Estonia). About 2000 citizens protest against dismantling of monument to Russian soldiers who was fighting against Nazi Germany (as far as you know Estonia is the EUROPEAN country which officially supports fascism and praises Estonian SS veterans who killed over 100,000 of Jews during WWII)

So guys. Did you hear anything about it on CNN/FOX/Euro News? Is that you call a freedom of speech?

WWII is a liitle more complicated, I´m afraid. The "Hitler - Stalin - Pakt" (for more information read here Hitler Stalin Pakt) devided Eastern Europe into Russian and German parts. When the Russians invaded Poland in 1939 the Germans agreed that all Baltic States becamepart of the Russian sphere of influence. Wide sections of the population were deported to camps in Siberia and Central Asia. Thousands tried to escape in little boats across the baltic Sea to Sweden. That´s why there were many partisan groups and that´s why many of them joined the German Army when Germany declared war to Russia btw. the Soviet Union.

That´s not all of history , of course. But maybe you´ll see why they did remove the monument. It has nothing to do with them being National Socialists.
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04-27-2007, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

I'm not talking about the US headline news. I'm talking about total silence in the western media.

we just don't care.

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04-27-2007, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

There are very serious disorders in Tallinn (Estonia). About 2000 citizens protest against dismantling of monument to Russian soldiers who was fighting against Nazi Germany (as far as you know Estonia is the EUROPEAN country which officially supports fascism and praises Estonian SS veterans who killed over 100,000 of Jews during WWII)

So guys. Did you hear anything about it on CNN/FOX/Euro News? Is that you call a freedom of speech?

firstky i would like to point out the fact that although estonia is a european country it isnt in the EU, so the freedom of speach laws that the European Parliment and the European court of justice set down dont actually apply to estonia.
Also as many ppl here have said the news channels had the right to show the story but apparently chose not to, also i ask concidering CNN and FOX are both american companies what would them not showing it have to do with european freedom of speech
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04-27-2007, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by Webby

Your humble opinion is totally irrelevant - as it is on most things.

The relevant issues are the laws relating to pedo-pandering/marketing. You are not only contravening US law, but also the laws of most western countries (and a few others). This is not my humble opinion - it is a fact.

You pander to pedos and market sicko fantasy content portraying "little girls fucking" and actually boast about it and post stupid comments about your "school girl fantasies" in an attempt to defend it. You are both sick and stupid

Yup cause no adult girls would have colorful rooms and their hair in pigtails. Is this another new gloom and doom prediction. lol
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04-27-2007, 01:04 PM

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Yup cause no adult girls would have colorful rooms and their hair in pigtails. Is this another new gloom and doom prediction. lol

You still in dumbo mode talking crap????

The good news Mr Boger is just heard there is a new DOJ/Knoxville Police Dept task force just being set up right now and not far from you to deal with exactly your type of problem in TN.

If you have any legal problems you'd care to discuss with this task force - I'd be more than happy to explain that you are somewhat confused with the law in respect of pedo-marketing and have someone channel your inquiry thru to them No need for any details - these are already known

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04-27-2007, 01:07 PM

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You still in dumbo mode talking crap????

The good news Mr Boger is just heard there is a new DOJ/Knoxville Police Dept task force just being set up right now and not far from you to deal with exactly your type of problem in TN.

If you have any legal problems you'd care to discuss with this task force - I'd be more than happy to explain that you are somewhat confused with the law in respect of pedo-marketing and have someone channel your inquiry thru to them No need for any details - these are already known

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04-27-2007, 01:09 PM

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You still in dumbo mode talking crap????

The good news Mr Boger is just heard there is a new DOJ/Knoxville Police Dept task force just being set up right now and not far from you to deal with exactly your type of problem in TN.

If you have any legal problems you'd care to discuss with this task force - I'd be more than happy to explain that you are somewhat confused with the law in respect of pedo-marketing and have someone channel your inquiry thru to them No need for any details - these are already known

Yup Knoxville is so close to me... Legal issues? I dont even have a single picture of Little Lupe hosted on any server I have. I just use some pics of a fat sweaty balding gray haired cunt from the UK to promote her with.
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04-27-2007, 01:10 PM

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I love watching you bitch slap this little tool all over this board

Kinda funny

But getting a little out of hand now - and prob more serious.

This idiot thinks he can do what the fuck he likes and get off with it - that ain't gonna happen

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04-27-2007, 01:10 PM

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firstky i would like to point out the fact that although estonia is a european country it isnt in the EU, so the freedom of speach laws that the European Parliment and the European court of justice set down dont actually apply to estonia.
Also as many ppl here have said the news channels had the right to show the story but apparently chose not to, also i ask concidering CNN and FOX are both american companies what would them not showing it have to do with european freedom of speech

Estonia is a member of the EU since 2004, like all other baltic states are.

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04-27-2007, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by Webby

Kinda funny

But getting a little out of hand now - and prob more serious.

This idiot thinks he can do what the fuck he likes and get off with it - that ain't gonna happen

Last warning of you insinuating pedo crap about me.
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04-27-2007, 01:13 PM

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Yup Knoxville is so close to me... Legal issues? I dont even have a single picture of Little Lupe hosted on any server I have. I just use some pics of a fat sweaty balding gray haired cunt from the UK to promote her with.

Ah... OK.. I'm pleased you have your defense in place

What do I can if you have some wonderful pics of me - I know you love pics You have already confirmed enough thanks - that is fine to start rolling

So.. you want some "legal guidance"??? You just have to ask

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04-27-2007, 01:14 PM

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Last warning of you insinuating pedo crap about me.

OK.. enough of your crap "warnings" idiot - you had your chance..

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04-27-2007, 01:44 PM

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WWII is a liitle more complicated, I´m afraid. The "Hitler - Stalin - Pakt" (for more information read here Hitler Stalin Pakt) devided Eastern Europe into Russian and German parts.

Believe me I learned this when I was a student. There is nothing new to me in that wikipedia's article. The problem is different. Estonian government officially support Nazi SS veterans. Ok, let's consider them as fighters for independence. But what's about 1000's of civilians (mostly Jews) killed by those "fighters"? The main goal of Estonian SS brigade were punitive operations, but not the direct confrontation to Soviet army. And now... they decided to remove the monument to soldiers who died fighting against Hitler. That's a real shame IMHO.

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