Hurt - Reznor, Cash or Kermit?

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  • Deej
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    • Jun 2005
    • 24386
    #1

    Hurt - Reznor, Cash or Kermit?

    I know its been posted, I dont care, but it ran by me again today and I found the kermit version. THAT I never seen...i found it to be pure blasphemy towards jim henson

    Cash - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO9dbmJ_2zU

    Reznor - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y8MZd-GtN0

    Kermit - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO9dbmJ_2zU

    A great song by any means... Reznor created it, his version and theatrics are superb... but Cash OWNED it!

    Whats your thoughts?

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    • Sly
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      • Sep 2004
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      #2
      I like the Cash version best. Kind of makes you sad. Reznors doesn't do anything for me.
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        • King Adam
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          • Jul 2003
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          #3
          Reznor. Saw it live in concert. It was sick.

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                • stickyfingerz
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                  • Oct 2005
                  • 24984
                  #5
                  You gave wrong linkage for Kermit..

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLQRv0RjBBM

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                    • Sarah_Jayne
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                      • Dec 2002
                      • 40077
                      #6
                      All three sing a version but each version is a totally different song.

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                        • Deej
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                          • Jun 2005
                          • 24386
                          #7
                          Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                          You gave wrong linkage for Kermit..

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLQRv0RjBBM
                          Good catch, thanks


                          Originally posted by Sarah_MaxCash
                          All three sing a version but each version is a totally different song.
                          Sort of, they only change a word or two, such as shit to thorns and some change in theatrics, but its all the same pain in the end...

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                            • 93sc
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                              • Jan 2004
                              • 53
                              #8
                              Reznor was there when Cash recored his cover. Reznor said he would never listen to his own version again.

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                                • flashfire
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                                  • Feb 2003
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                                  #9
                                  lol kermit

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                                    • evildick
                                      #10
                                      Jeez, that kermit video is awesome. The blowjob near the end is kinda pushing it. Someone put a lot of work into that.

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                                        • Sarah_Jayne
                                          Now with more Jayne
                                          • Dec 2002
                                          • 40077
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Deej
                                          Good catch, thanks



                                          Sort of, they only change a word or two, such as shit to thorns and some change in theatrics, but its all the same pain in the end...


                                          I disagree..take kermit out of it....the other two are both pain but they aren't the same pain...different song. Which shows the strength of them both as artists for making it their own. I seriously can not watch the video version of the Cash one and will leave the room if it comes on because it is just so powerful.

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                                            • candyflip
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                                              • Jul 2002
                                              • 43069
                                              #12
                                              That Kermit video is genius.

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                                                • Deej
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                                                  • Jun 2005
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                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by 93sc
                                                  Reznor was there when Cash recored his cover. Reznor said he would never listen to his own version again.
                                                  Correct, Before the Cash video was released a copy was given to Reznor while he was in his studio recording with (dont remember who, but a famous friend) and he viewed it. He left his studio in tears and said he dosnt consider it his song any longer.

                                                  Originally posted by Sarah_MaxCash
                                                  I disagree..take kermit out of it....the other two are both pain but they aren't the same pain...different song. Which shows the strength of them both as artists for making it their own. I seriously can not watch the video version of the Cash one and will leave the room if it comes on because it is just so powerful.
                                                  Right, of course the kermit one is a spoof. And yes they are different songs in how they ae told, agreed...But the pain in the end is the same... memories and let downs, but still overcoming...

                                                  and yes... the cash version IS powerful... i hits a chord with me as well, but i dont leave i sit there and embrace the song and video...to each their own

                                                  different experiences impact us on how he acept this video...

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                                                    • Deej
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                                                      • Jun 2005
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                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by candyflip
                                                      That Kermit video is genius.
                                                      I thought it was cool up until he started blowing fozy bear....that was just horrible

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                                                        • Owen22
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                                                          • Apr 2007
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                                                          #15
                                                          I always loved the NIN version, but the first time I heard the Cash version - it brought a tear to my eye.
                                                          I think Cash took over that song.

                                                          I dont know what to day about the Kermit verzion.
                                                          Last edited by Owen22; 04-26-2007, 12:38 PM.

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                                                            • Tim
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                                                              • Feb 2002
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                                                              #16
                                                              This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by The Jim Henson Company, Inc.
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                                                                • TG Rebecca
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                                                                  • Aug 2006
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  i think i am the only person on the planet who isn't crazy about the johnny cash version. i love johnny cash but yeah.. didn't care for his cover of hurt.

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                                                                    • nikooo
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                                                                      • Apr 2007
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Tim
                                                                      This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by The Jim Henson Company, Inc.

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                                                                        • evildick
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Another link for the people that never got to see Kermit. (warning - popups)

                                                                          http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1750777

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                                                                            • Mutt
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                                                                              • Sep 2002
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              Kermit version is the best - making somebody laugh is a much harder thing to do than making somebody sad. could have done a better job with Kermit's voice though.

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                                                                                • bopha
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                                                                                  • Sep 2002
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  I agree. Trent Reznor's concert version was hard to watch. I do like his version, but I really felt Johnny's. I believe Johnny Cash lived it.

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                                                                                    • fuzebox
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                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                      • 22352
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Deej
                                                                                      Correct, Before the Cash video was released a copy was given to Reznor while he was in his studio recording with (dont remember who, but a famous friend) and he viewed it. He left his studio in tears and said he dosnt consider it his song any longer.
                                                                                      It was Zack de la Rocha

                                                                                      I personally prefer the Reznor version and not just because I'm a NIN fan... it just seems grittier, really bites deep for me.

                                                                                      The Cash version is excellent, but it's really a different kind of song for me.

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                                                                                        • teg0
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                                                                                          • Jan 2006
                                                                                          • 4204
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Reznor because its his song. Thats like saying whats better? Van Gogh's Starry Night or a recreation of Starry Night that has a different color scheme. Cash's version is great and it really fucked up a lot country fans to find out that it wasn't written by him because its pretty fitting. If it wasn't for the fact that it was his last video I think people wouldn't claim to like Cash's version so much.

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                                                                                            • teg0
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                                                                                              • Jan 2006
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              "This resonates so much more because it was filmed right before Kermit's death."

                                                                                              lol

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                                                                                                • RawAlex
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                                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                                  • 9465
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Being a little older (but a huge NIN fan) I would have to say that the Cash version gets my vote. I have seen probably 6 or 7 version done by NIN, and each one is good... but...

                                                                                                  Cash put more emotion into it. You listen to him and you can truly feel the pain, feel the agony (most days at that point of his life, the man could barely talk, let alone sing... but Rick Ruben waited patiently for the good days and recorded some amazing songs).

                                                                                                  In the video you can see his wife, June Carter Cash. They were married for a long, long time (35 years, an eternity in the music business). When she died in May 2003, everyone knew it wasn't long. In September 2003, Johnny was gone as well.

                                                                                                  Hurt showed a once powerful man, the very rough and tough Man in Black reduced to a worn out husk, yet still full of definance, grit, and determination, even as his body was failing him. A true classic.

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                                                                                                    • JaneB
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      I like Trent Reznor's better. I believe he would make you hurt. Plus I saw him in concert and he rocks that song so well. Johnny Cash's is good, but it will never be better then the original.

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                                                                                                        • crockett
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                                                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                                                          • 76818
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          I like both versions but JC's version carries more feel and weight to it. Even Trent Reznor said he wrote the song but after Johnny Cash covered it, the song was now his.

                                                                                                          I like finding good cover songs on youtube and a while back I found two pretty good covers of hurt.

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                                                                                                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q6ZUuY_ajU

                                                                                                          and a dude with a guitar
                                                                                                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMvzfrns7Xg
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