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will76 04-25-2007 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 12309172)
do you listen to yourself? christ i thought you were brightere then this
why are you bitching about zango if you dont care if they get more business or not?
What is your real agenda....fuck you are dumb

My real agenda is to educate people, obviously I failed with you.

This is the LAST fucking time i explain this for someone. IF you or someone else misses this post (plus the last 20x I have posted this) then they can think what the fuck they want. Obviously you and others are not smart enough to understand it or don't know a fuck about what you talking about to know how it works.

2 parts to zango. 1. pays people to do installs (zangocash). 2. sells traffic to people (metrics direct).

I post here to educate people about zango, all aspects. When people are educated how zango works then they would have to be morons to promote them to make .40 install only to fuck themselves on all the other sponsors they are advertising on their own site. Some people were promoting zango and stopped because of this, some people reached out to sites that was promoting zango and go them to stop. I DOUBT anyone here started promoting zango installs after finding out how bad they were and other than idiots like dorkjedi and fake sig whores just looking for attention, i haven't heard of anyone. It would make no sense. Installs are by far the thing that causes us the most damage.

The more pcs infected = the more traffic stolen from me.
The more assholes buying traffic from zango DOES NOT = more traffic stolen from me.

The second part is the people who buy traffic. Zango was selling traffic for all the popular urls and keywords long before i started posting about it. They sell traffic by the popup, and people bid on the urls. By posting about Zango the only bad that has come out of all of this is that the cost per click has gone up because more people bidding on their services. (AFF perfect example.) SO some asshole pays .04 a popup for my sponsor's url (my traffic) where as before he was buying it for .01. The amount of popups the infected user is seeing is the SAME. Zango caps how many is allowed to happen over a period of time so more people buying traffic doesn't mean more popups, just means zango makes more per pop up. My traffic is still being stolen regardless. The other part is the assholes who read this and want to use zango, let them. They expose themselves and I am sure a lot of people will stop doing business with them or skip over them in the future.

GOOD from my posting here: Make all affiliates aware how zango works so they never promote them. Some people were promoting them and stopped because they had no idea how it worked. Some webmasters have made scripts that notify the surfer their pc is infected. The sponsors who use stolen traffic have been exposed.

Bad: zango makes more per click from assholes who want to buy traffic from them.

While I don't want Zango to make more money, them making more money hasn't hurt me or anyone else here. If more sponsors stop using them, we keep working on people doing the installs , and the FTC stays on their ass, then we have a shot.

I think the good outweighs the bad.

So why don't you shut the fuck up for a little while, stop making stupid fucking comments like all i am doing is educating people how to use zango, and try a little reading comprehension and see if it can sink in this time.

will76 04-25-2007 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 12311553)

today i want to know why will76 doesnt care about zango on the whole...instead he only cares about his direct competition AFF


Yeah thats it. :1orglaugh


Hey dumbass, see the title of this thread.


Sounds like you just got off the phone with Lars or Damian if you seriously think I did all of this because I am worried about AFF because I am an affiliate of clickcash.

How does AFF compete with me ?

will76 04-25-2007 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by spiro11 (Post 12311716)
seems like a little more like an intimidation campaign than a moral campaign.. i wonder what benefit will76 and co are receiving from this...?

the same benefit you are receiving by me doing it. No need to pay me or anything like that, your sarcasm is more then adequate.

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Originally Posted by spiro11 (Post 12311716)

what do they plan to do about other sponsors that use zango and don't directly reflect their competition?

AFF ( DATING SITE ) does not " directly " compete with CLICKCASH (CAMS SITE) :upsidedow :warning

someone explain this whole competiton to me. Last I checked a clickcash affiliate is more competition to me than an AFF affiliate advertising on the same site. Since I don't own Clickcash, how does what AFF does affect my incone at all. I am lost there but surely all you people who think it has to do " with the competition " can explain it to me. dumb fucks.

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Originally Posted by spiro11 (Post 12311716)

what is nitesurf?

from looking at the website i would take a guess it is a site owned by clickcash, a link list they have all their own sites on? WHY ?

spiro11 04-25-2007 03:37 PM

the concept of 'spin-off' isn't new...

either is distraction.

will76 04-25-2007 03:39 PM

Here is a novel fucking idea for all you really retard, short sighted fuckers who can't generate an intelligent thought.

If i wanted to do something to make me more money by bashing people I would bash clickcash. I would make 10 fake nicks and make up all kinds of shit about them, then more and more affiliates would stop using them, or not try them in the future. SO, I would have less clickcash competition. Lots of places I advertise there are other people promoting clickcash, when someone signs up through them first then I will never make that sale. When they signup through AFF i still have potential to make money off of that person.

If i was only interested in making money and doing it in a underhanded way by trying to hurt "my competition" I could think of much better ways then trying to bash AFF.

some people can't see their own hands in front their face and replying to these people is beyond getting old.

will76 04-25-2007 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by spiro11 (Post 12312335)
the concept of 'spin-off' isn't new...

either is distraction.

neither is playing dumb, or for some people being dumb.

OzMan 04-25-2007 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12312166)
Ozman: AFF is one of the biggest sponsors, and almost everyone at one time or another has used them. SBR (no disrepect to DK and his crew) is a relatively new deal and is maybe used by 10% of webmasters (but is growing, I heard).

AFF as a result gets at least 90% more grief for being arrogant enough to not only buy ads over their affiliates traffic, but to actually admit the same in public. It isn't just a case of using Zango, but having a total "fuck you" attitude that included the imfamous "Zango forced me" excuse that will go down in online porn history as one of truly classic lines.

AFF got it because they earned it.

Just in case you forgot, I didn't like AFF using zango either and am glad they stopped....so where from here? More broken record or move on to current sponsors?

No disrespect to Sexbankroll?

Why not?

because they are new?

because they are smaller than AFF?

because they use zango but aren't AFF so it doesn't count?

because they are too chicken shit to address people's concerns but that's ok?

I don't follow :helpme :helpme :helpme

spiro11 04-25-2007 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 12312346)
neither is playing dumb, or for some people being dumb.

banking on it?

OzMan 04-25-2007 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by spiro11 (Post 12312148)
wow.. took long enough to think up that reply

so, if he's currently trying to engage sponsors.. where are all the rest? Obviously, zango isn't surviving on just THREE sponsors?!?!

Is this more of a aggressive business plan to discredit people (who are direct competitors)? What is stopping you guys from doing this to any company? Espiecally now that you've "clarified" in a VEEERY political response on exactly what nitesurf is?

I've heard a different story btw.. along the lines of installs, tool bars and funneling traffic..

Is that exactly what google does too?

I don't really understand most of what you said but I'll try.

Are you Mr sexbankroll? Sure seems like it. Good to see you at least posting anyhow:thumbsup :1orglaugh

Sorry I took so long replying, the post wasn't addressed to me and also I don't monitor gfy 24/7

What other sponsors use zango and post on gfy that haven't been mentioned already?

Regarding nitesurf and my political response??? ummm I don't really get what you are trying to say. Is there something incorrect about what I said? It is my opinion based on my observations.

Got a link to the "I heard nitesurf kills babies" stuff as I'd like to read it?

spiro11 04-25-2007 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OzMan (Post 12312561)
I don't really understand most of what you said but I'll try.

Are you Mr sexbankroll? Sure seems like it. Good to see you at least posting anyhow:thumbsup :1orglaugh

Sorry I took so long replying, the post wasn't addressed to me and also I don't monitor gfy 24/7

What other sponsors use zango and post on gfy that haven't been mentioned already?

Regarding nitesurf and my political response??? ummm I don't really get what you are trying to say. Is there something incorrect about what I said? It is my opinion based on my observations.

Got a link to the "I heard nitesurf kills babies" stuff as I'd like to read it?

:1orglaugh if i was mr sexbankroll, why would i be bumping this?

i'm just saying.. everything isn't as it seems :)

will76 04-25-2007 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by spiro11 (Post 12312610)
:1orglaugh if i was mr sexbankroll, why would i be bumping this?

i'm just saying.. everything isn't as it seems :)

stupid people do stupid things. Lars bumped similar threads like this that were about him and AFF. Nothing surprises me anymore.

nice to see that after I answered all your allegations that you have resorted to one sentence ambiguous replies.

will76 04-26-2007 07:22 AM

bump......

SmokeyTheBear 04-26-2007 08:41 AM

its sure sucks when someone goes out of their way to help the industry and is plagued by shit meddlers.

I dont wonder about will76's agenda for 1 second. His agenda is OBVIOUS. I am seriously beginning to wonder about the people who repeatedly dog him with the same bullcrap and stupid replies. " if it was illegal wouldnt zango be arrested ", "everyone else is doing it "

LadyMischief 04-26-2007 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Fris (Post 12305151)

Hahhahaa that's hilarious man!

will76 04-26-2007 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyMischief (Post 12315890)
Hahhahaa that's hilarious man!

I am glad you can find something funny in this thread.

profiteer 04-26-2007 02:11 PM

banking on bumping this one!

4Pics 04-26-2007 03:03 PM

bump.......

RFremont 04-26-2007 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by profiteer (Post 12305341)
Yep, SexSearch is on this the Zango Bangwagon!

Has anyone officially confirmed or denied Fling doing this too?


The scurilous scoundrels at sexsearch.com have been dodging the issue from day 1, not once addressing the issue or posting in any threads to clarify their position. However, they sure have been posting promotional threads and "It was great having drinks with you at the show" posts.

They continue to unabashedly steal sales from affiliates via zango without a care or worry. Anyone promoting this rogue program should carefully consider continuing doing business with them. If only one affiliate moves their traffic away from these crooks, this post was well worth it. Cheers.


Lastly, I really don't get why anyone would bash or attack Will76. What part of his exposure of this zango theft is ill-intentioned? Just more bizarre behavior from certain people in this industry.

Aussie Rebel 04-26-2007 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 12305216)
I am only 1 person i can only do so much, sorry.

We could do it in shifts will

will76 04-27-2007 08:06 AM

bump....

DamageX 04-27-2007 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12309741)
The free speech coalition is handing out fines? Wow! That's news!

Grrrrr, just saw this... I meant FTC of course. :)

seeandsee 04-27-2007 08:17 AM

God Damn, ZANGOO steal our traffic, they ar eillegal bastards and we need can't do anything as i can see!

Gnus 04-27-2007 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 12321144)
God Damn, ZANGOO steal our traffic, they ar eillegal bastards and we need can't do anything as i can see!

Yes there is and that's by bumping threads that expose this type of activity to keep webmasters informed about the sponsors doing this. Dont let them forget and let new webmasters know too about it. That way if they get screwed in the future it's there own damn fault.

Gary

Gnus 04-27-2007 11:01 AM

Bump it back to the first page.

Gary

will76 04-27-2007 12:56 PM

bump....

Gnus 04-27-2007 02:47 PM

I'm declaring Friday's are now Bump Friday.

Gary

jonesonyou 04-27-2007 02:49 PM

wow these zango guys have drama

DatingGold 04-27-2007 02:54 PM

http://www.mdgp.net/fz.jpg

Gnus 04-27-2007 08:44 PM

Still silence from SexBankRoll. Hmmm not looking for good for them for sure.

Gary


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