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Mediachick · 04-19-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanton

I've shot thousands of models doing all kinds of stuff . . 98% of the time there are no probs and don't worry, we'll never do any biz together

NO SHIT. I was the first one to state that fyi.

Anyway since you seem to only see what you want to see in what I am stating and ignoring the comments that are actually the most relevent to the actual discussion, I will just wish you good luck in your work. Oh and after reading your sig, there is no wonder that the ppl you deal with have no problems with guns. They probably have no problem with anything as long as there is money to be made. We're defintely not in the same niche ;)

Cheers.

Grapesoda · 04-19-2007, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

I love how some of you think. That if you eliminate the guns from the law abiding citizens, then the criminals won't have their gun supply anymore.

You couldn't be any more wrong.

The fact is that if you banned guns today and were somehow able to stop anyone on American soil from obtaining a new gun, there are so many in circulation that it would be many decades before they were confiscated or broke.

And there is one other very important factor to this. Europe's anti-gun laws work because every country in the region has them. The criminals can't easily trade guns from country to country. However if you ban guns in the US, they still come in from Mexico along with the drugs and go directly into the hands of street gangs.

Foreigners seem to think that Americans at all levels are at risk of being shot. That is sooooo wrong. Assuming you don't live in an area that is predominately black and Mexican (not trying to be racist, just stating a fact), you will probably go your entire life without hearing a gunshot in your neighborhood.

the very fact that these peeps push opinions in the thread opposing guns has qualified them as 'nuts' the thread is addressed to anti gun NUTS . . .

makes everything nice and clear doesn't it?

Anthony · 04-19-2007, 12:31 PM

I think this quote says it the best...

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“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.” - Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanalysis

Anthony · 04-19-2007, 12:32 PM

Oh wait. I"m sorry, this one is good too...

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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed- unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.” - James Madison

Grapesoda · 04-19-2007, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mediachick

NO SHIT. I was the first one to state that fyi.

Anyway since you seem to only see what you want to see in what I am stating and ignoring the comments that are actually the most relevent to the actual discussion, I will just wish you good luck in your work. Oh and after reading your sig, there is no wonder that the ppl you deal with have no problems with guns. They probably have no problem with anything as long as there is money to be made. We're defintely not in the same niche ;)

Cheers.

your condescending attitude of self superiority has allowed me to discount any information you might or might not have and I'm sure just like you are that your better than me in every way possible, along morally and spiritually superior too! hell I'm sure you're even a better shooter than me, better father, friend and kind to small animals!!!

Anthony · 04-19-2007, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanton

your condescending attitude of self superiority has allowed me to discount any information you might or might not have and I'm sure just like you are that your better than me in every way possible, along morally and spiritually superior too! hell I'm sure you're even a better shooter than me, better father, friend and kind to small animals!!!

Sorry Brian, you are wrong.

I think you have nicer rack.

Grapesoda · 04-19-2007, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

I think this quote says it the best...

not bad from a coke head!

Grapesoda · 04-19-2007, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Sorry Brian, you are wrong.

I think you have nicer rack.

got a new 'manzier' the other day too!

Anthony · 04-19-2007, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanton

not bad from a coke head!

I was about to answer...

YOU MOTHERFUCKER! I've been clean for a long ass time now!

Then realized, you were talking about Freud.

Anthony · 04-19-2007, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanton

got a new 'manzier' the other day too!

PICS OR BAN!!!

HeadPimp · 04-19-2007, 12:39 PM

If I got my math right, only one in ~23,000 people get murdered in the USA. Granted that is still higher than a lot of other places, like Japan, Switzerland and so on, but it still isn't bad and most of the violence is in pretty specific areas.

Besides, you don't have to kill people in Japan, they all are committing suicide! Not surprisingly, the countries with high murder rates, have low suicide rates. LOL...

Mediachick · 04-19-2007, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanton

your condescending attitude of self superiority has allowed me to discount any information you might or might not have and I'm sure just like you are that your better than me in every way possible, along morally and spiritually superior too! hell I'm sure you're even a better shooter than me, better father, friend and kind to small animals!!!

Translation: I definitely suck at defending any of my points so I will just add a bunch of nice fancy words together and hope it makes sense.

I didnt mean no offense in my earlier posts, just opinions. You were the one acting defensive and feeling attacked. If you cant stand a honest opinion, maybe you shouldnt start threads like this one? Just a suggestion.

Anthony · 04-19-2007, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mediachick

Translation: I definitely suck at defending any of my points so I will just add a bunch of nice fancy words together and hope it makes sense.

I didnt mean no offense in my earlier posts, just opinions. You were the one acting defensive and feeling attacked. If you cant stand a honest opinion, maybe you shouldnt start threads like this one? Just a suggestion.

No offense, eh?

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Oh and after reading your sig, there is no wonder that the ppl you deal with have no problems with guns. They probably have no problem with anything as long as there is money to be made. We're defintely not in the same niche ;)

Yeah, I can see how you meant no offense in that condensending post.

D · 04-19-2007, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanton

hey d, I study social anthropology, the histories of societies and the role of the individuals along with comparative religions, social trends, cultural myths, and cultural migrations as a hobby . . what a hoot!! ever read any thomas sowell? -bmb

Don't think I have... but I've read a few of the books on his homepage's suggested reading list.

I'll have to check him out.... "Black Rednecks and White Liberals" sounds like a good place to start.

Anthony · 04-19-2007, 12:50 PM

Right now, I'd like to blame the real fucking country responsible for the shootings at VTECH. </sarcasm>

GLOCK - AUSTRIA

D · 04-19-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

I was about to answer...

YOU MOTHERFUCKER! I've been clean for a long ass time now!

Then realized, you were talking about Freud.

There were plenty of good quotes in there.

Mediachick · 04-19-2007, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

No offense, eh?

Yeah, I can see how you meant no offense in that condensending post.

Yes, where do you see the offense in my "condensending" post? I havent adressed anything to you or him by saying this.

Here is what was said, basically: I dont think bringing guns to work is ethical. I admit I do not know how potentially dangerous Wanton is at; but if it is so threatening, maybe he should consider moving to a quieter ground for his own sake. That was a friendly advice. The rest was led by the fact that wanton think im an anti-gun freak. If he assumes this then I guess I can have my own assumptions too.

Anthony · 04-19-2007, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mediachick

Yes, where do you see the offense in my "condensending" post? I havent adressed anything to you or him by saying this.

Here is what was said, basically: I dont think bringing guns to work is ethical. I admit I do not know how potentially dangerous Wanton is at; but if it is so threatening, maybe he should consider moving to a quieter ground for his own sake. That was a friendly advice. The rest was led by the fact that wanton think im an anti-gun freak. If he assumes this then I guess I can have my own assumptions too.

I believe I quoted the part of your post that we condensending.

Wanton is a dangerous man. Dangerous, with a capital D.

Mediachick · 04-19-2007, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

I believe I quoted the part of your post that we condensending.

Wanton is a dangerous man. Dangerous, with a capital D.

Thanks for your deep explanation.

Anthony · 04-19-2007, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mediachick

Thanks for your deep explanation.

You're just mad because I said Brian has a better rack than you.

Sorry.

But, it's true.

Grapesoda · 04-19-2007, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

PICS OR BAN!!!

hot link

Anthony · 04-19-2007, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanton

hot link

I rest my case.

Grapesoda · 04-19-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by D

Don't think I have... but I've read a few of the books on his homepage's suggested reading list.

I'll have to check him out.... "Black Rednecks and White Liberals" sounds like a good place to start.

he's a real interesting guy . . read some of his editorials . teaches economics at Sanford

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/t.../archive.shtml

I have black redneck, white liberals . . conquest and culture is the first book of his I read

Grapesoda · 04-19-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

I was about to answer...

YOU MOTHERFUCKER! I've been clean for a long ass time now!

Then realized, you were talking about Freud.

clean and serene 17.4 years here

Mediachick · 04-19-2007, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

You're just mad because I said Brian has a better rack than you.

Sorry.

But, it's true.

Uh huh. Your responses explains alot to me. I guess you ran out of Freudian quotes for that one? Im sorry but I was having a discussion on a serious matter; I trully have no time for that sort of 12 years old humor. This is an adult board btw hun.

Anthony · 04-19-2007, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mediachick

Uh huh. Your responses explains alot to me. I guess you ran out of Freudian quotes for that one?

Sorry, I don't take you serious enough.

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Im sorry but I was having a discussion on a serious matter; I trully have no time for that sort of 12 years old humor.

Were you really? I guess discussion and forcing your viewpoint down someone's throat means the same to you.

Typical woman.

adultseo · 04-19-2007, 02:28 PM

In The Netherlands guns are not alowed. So it feels pretty safe when you have a fight at college for example, knowing that the other person will not be able to shoot you if a problem occurs. Ofcourse there will be some people with guns carrying arround, however, since it is illegal to have them you are still able to rely on the fact that the one carrying will be very carefull to use it.

MaDalton · 04-19-2007, 03:30 PM

i don't need guns - and thinking about having guns around when we have models here makes me laugh. a girl stole a dildo once - maybe i should have shot her

Grapesoda · 04-19-2007, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i don't need guns - and thinking about having guns around when we have models here makes me laugh. a girl stole a dildo once - maybe i should have shot her

your area has a very high murder rate too . . all of eastern euro is way up there on the chart . . that's comical all right

MaDalton · 04-19-2007, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanton

your area has a very high murder rate too . . all of eastern euro is way up there on the chart . . that's comical all right

the biggest criminals in czech republic are the cab drivers - everyone who has been in prague knows what i mean

well, even your government knows that

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CRIME: The Czech Republic generally has a low rate of crime. However, street crime ?particularly pick-pocketing and occasional mugging ?is a problem, especially in major tourist areas in Prague. Travelers are encouraged to be especially vigilant in Prague?s restaurants, train stations, and on public transportation around the city center. Reported incidents of pick pocketing in 2005 were up by 2 percent over 2004. Incidents of violent crime, while still relatively infrequent, are becoming more common in Prague. Travelers should be aware of the reported use of rohypnol, and other ?date rape? drugs in the Czech Republic. Caution should be used when accepting open drinks at bars or clubs. Travelers should be very careful while riding trains, trams or metro, where most crime occurs. Keep a copy of your passport in a safe place separate from the passport itself; this copy can help you to apply for a new passport if yours is lost or stolen. Visitors should be alert to the potential for substantial overcharging by taxis, particularly in areas frequented by tourists. Radio-dispatched taxis are often much more reliable. It is also advisable to set the price in advance.

and over the last 3 years i haven't heard of even one murder case around here

maybe because no one has guns? who knows...

MaDalton · 04-19-2007, 03:48 PM

taken from: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p.../cis_1099.html

before someone doubts my sources

KustomKowgurl · 04-19-2007, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tree

Why do you care so much? You dont live here. It's really none of your fucking business. Why dont you stick to the politics of your own country. I will sum it up here for you so you dont have to make 62 more threads on the subject. :insert drumroll:

Americans have a Cowboy Complex. plain and simple

its not going away anytime soon, its a problem when sick retards own guns yes. Normal people are not going to give up the guns they have. Nobody is going to ban guns no matter how many people you call stupid or imbicile.

In a perfect candycane world guns wouldn't have been invented and people would pay for music and we would all sing pretty songs and dance all day. But this is reality and just like mp3's you cant put a genie back in a bottle. Guns are not going anywhere. America has and will always be a little more violent and crazy than the rest of the world. Maybe it's the media, the water, or the Mcdonalds. But if you took away all the guns guess what?....Steak knife and ballbat murders would skyrocket.

That is probably the simplest and most direct (and definitely most accurate, in my opinion) statement I've read on these boards in the last few days.

Porn Farmer · 04-19-2007, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

I think this quote says it the best...

This is another quote by Freud:

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America is a mistake, admittedly a gigantic mistake, but a mistake nevertheless.

Grapesoda · 04-19-2007, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KustomKowgurl

That is probably the simplest and most direct (and definitely most accurate, in my opinion) statement I've read on these boards in the last few days.

yes it is . .. peeps came to america to get away from the BS in euro and other places . . and still do for that matter

Grapesoda · 04-19-2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Porn Farmer

This is another quote by Freud:

and some more:

A man should not strive to eliminate his complexes but to get into accord with them: they are legitimately what directs his conduct in the world.

Civilized society is perpetually menaced with disintegration through this primary hostility of men towards one another.

I have found little that is "good" about human beings on the whole. In my experience most of them are trash, no matter whether they publicly subscribe to this or that ethical doctrine or to none at all. That is something that you cannot say aloud, or perhaps even think.

pornguy · 04-19-2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by websiex

Well... guns are in their own league when it comes to danger and prohibition. Take drugs for example, even though they are banned, banning them has no effect on the use of drugs. On the other hand, when guns are banned, statistics show that murder rate by gun actually goes down.

Thats funny, because having any firearm in mexico will get you 30 years to life. Yet the murder rate with guns is almost as high as the US.

And guns dont kill people. Postal employees do.

Cho Seung-Hui · 04-19-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanton

yes it is . .. peeps came to america to get away from the BS in euro and other places . . and still do for that matter

I residential alien. Come America from South Korea study as english major.

Happiness is warm gun I think.

Cho

EZRhino · 04-19-2007, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelo22

guns are evil. period.

No the people who use them for wrong are evil.

A child is 100 times more likely to die in the family swimming pool then with a gun in the house.
Are swimming pools evil?

Webby · 04-19-2007, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HeadPimp

If I got my math right, only one in ~23,000 people get murdered in the USA. Granted that is still higher than a lot of other places, like Japan, Switzerland and so on, but it still isn't bad and most of the violence is in pretty specific areas.

Murders per capita is not the issue HeadPimp. These are not necessarily firearm offenses. Colombia has it's own different set of problems - ironically the source for a substantial number of firearm-related murders in Columbia happen to be mainly due to the US desire to snort powder in volume.

Firearms offenses in the US (not necessarily murders) are far beyond all western countries combined. Even nextdoor in Canada the murder rate by firearm is less than one fifth of the US. It's hardly a debate as to whether this is a problem - the US has had more "college incidents" in the last few decades than any country (forgetting the deaths which don't reach CNN headlines).

Bottom line - guns in the US are a major problem both to LE and the public - it has the highest ranking of gun offenses on the planet and much of these weapons are in the hands of the public - and the public, as in any country - are idiots.

mattz · 04-19-2007, 04:34 PM

shut up about guns already, I hate how this dumb shit just goes on and on. It's over with, stop dragging the shit out

SexualDragon · 04-19-2007, 04:42 PM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tzRrqNGd_0o

grumpy · 04-20-2007, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Wanton

fear doesn't control my life . . I no longer shoot models that I think are gonna cause probs or work with peeps that cause me to consider the gun . . the reality it that has a content shooter I deal with a very low element of society . . maybe the Canadians are different and for the most part the models here are okay however let me ask you this . . . 'do you have a fire extinguisher in you home?' 'do you have an earthquake kit?' 'do you have flashlights and candles?' 'do you have a spare tire in yer car?' . . last time there was a murder in the building I lived in (several years ago) it took the cops about an hour to get there after I called about shots fired . . try sitting in an apartment while 2 peps are being murdered next door with a shotgun and waiting an hour for the cops and you don't have any way to defend yerself . . you might find that interesting. .

this statement just proofs you live in fear. You cant compare a spare tire with a weapon.

Webby · 04-20-2007, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Wanton

the reality it that has a content shooter I deal with a very low element of society . .

Wot you shooting Wanton? Armed crack whores with long rapsheets?

Total opposite from what I know of - all (ok.. with some exceptions for being "wooly minded" *s*) - all models are very pleasant and normal - and not involved in crime in any way.

fuzzylogic · 04-20-2007, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Wanton

start testing models from ads in the paper and then get back to me or be standing out in the woods with a hot nude babe when a car load of gang bangers drives by . . . then I'd love some input from ya about safety and guns

what kind of woods do YOU visit man?!?

Grapesoda · 04-20-2007, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Wot you shooting Wanton? Armed crack whores with long rapsheets?

Total opposite from what I know of - all (ok.. with some exceptions for being "wooly minded" *s*) - all models are very pleasant and normal - and not involved in crime in any way.

well peeps that suck dicks for $$, make 20K per month, live in motels and can't pay their cell phone bills, don't have cars, get beat by their BF's, stay up 3-4 days at a time, etc have a life style a bit different than me . . not sure what kind of life you lead

Grapesoda · 04-20-2007, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzylogic

what kind of woods do YOU visit man?!?

the country around LA mang

potter · 04-20-2007, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by adultseo

In The Netherlands guns are not alowed. So it feels pretty safe when you have a fight at college for example, knowing that the other person will not be able to shoot you if a problem occurs. Ofcourse there will be some people with guns carrying arround, however, since it is illegal to have them you are still able to rely on the fact that the one carrying will be very carefull to use it.

Huh? I've been to bars all over this country, and in tons of college towns. Never once got into a fight and thought "shit, I hope he doesn't have a gun". In all the bar fights I've been in, it always "shit, I hope that group of seven people behind him arn't his friends".

Webby · 04-20-2007, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Wanton

well peeps that suck dicks for $$, make 20K per month, live in motels and can't pay their cell phone bills, don't have cars, get beat by their BF's, stay up 3-4 days at a time, etc have a life style a bit different than me . . not sure what kind of life you lead

Oh shit! Got ya!! Sounds totally screwed...

Na... a bit different to that Wanton - not sure I've ever met any like that - they are all kinda stable (give or take) and often move on to other things - eg music biz or TV presentation etc.

Damn... don't shoot any longer (partner does that), but he sure would not want to work with them... they'd be thru the studio door damned quick *lol*

Grapesoda · 04-20-2007, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Oh shit! Got ya!! Sounds totally screwed...

Na... a bit different to that Wanton - not sure I've ever met any like that - they are all kinda stable (give or take) and often move on to other things - eg music biz or TV presentation etc.

Damn... don't shoot any longer (partner does that), but he sure would not want to work with them... they'd be thru the studio door damned quick *lol*

out here in LA the sex biz can't be a a bit different, not always, however had enough bad experiences to warrant the 1911 . . I hope I never need it again, but if I do .. getting out of the sex biz asap . .

LA is pretty heavily armed after the 'race' riots in the 90's anyway . . not sure if you live in an area with heavily armed non-whites watching the news every day looking for an excuse to burn the city, loot and murder like I do . . most of the 'white' peeps are armed now . . watching minority guys pull woman from cars and rape them will do that to ya . . . LA is definitely not a safe place . .

I'll prolly go ahead and get a carry permit in a few years . .

Grapesoda · 04-20-2007, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Frank is a moron with his people with guns are idiots. His reasoning for fat people is due to them owning a fork.

crap!! that's my problem . . gonna go throw out all my forks right now

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HeadPimp Bad Mo-Fo Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 2,772	If I got my math right, only one in ~23,000 people get murdered in the USA. Granted that is still higher than a lot of other places, like Japan, Switzerland and so on, but it still isn't bad and most of the violence is in pretty specific areas. Besides, you don't have to kill people in Japan, they all are committing suicide! Not surprisingly, the countries with high murder rates, have low suicide rates. LOL...

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