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Grapesoda 04-19-2007 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mediachick (Post 12280695)
Seriously hun, no offense... You have your ways but there is NO way I would ever work with someone that is carrying a gun and certainly not book my girls on shoots with that same person. When I recruit I always make sure there will be no crazy boyfriends barging in my office afterwards. And you're right, I dont care because there is nothing to be done about this issue. Ppl have been killing each other since the man walks on earth weather it is with a gun, fists, knife or anything. Only difference is that I just accept it and try not to hang out with threatening ppl. You dont trust anybody to the point that you are carrying a gun? Fine! Then how IN HELL can you blame me not trusting a guy who's gonna get me naked keeping a gun at reach in the middle of the woods?

please reference where I said I carry a gun. I stated that I have loaded and kept a gun handy when the occasion called for it . . I never said I carry a gun . . don't worry I never wanna see you nakid . . so a question to you; is being a pimp any relation to you not caring?

Grapesoda 04-19-2007 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mediachick (Post 12280864)
Since you are here and claiming to be a content shooter, I assumed you could afford living wherever you wanted. I come from a poor background and now I make more money then both of my parents together. To me, it takes a functionning brain to make your way in this world. NOT a gun.

Have you been reading my comments before? Im curious to know your opinion about it :)

Oh, and btw-WHAT is that funny thing you are referring to?

I've only been a content shooter for 7 years. BTW I don't 'claim' to be a content shooter, I am a content shooter.

D 04-19-2007 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 12280650)
Yup, and thats why so many countries are more free than the US without everyone owning a gun.

Fucking imbecile. How exactly do you get statements like this? Do you read them somewhere or make them up yourself or what?

As I told you yesterday, bro... there's no need to call me names in an effort to compensate whatever it is you're attempting to compensate for.

As far as where I got that statement, it's my own... having taken roughly a dozen political science and history courses, Americanism and Western/Human/Evolutionary History are all hobby subjects of mine.... maybe not as favored as biology, astronomy, zymurgy, or mathematics... but they rank up there in my interests.

I'm not arguing what countries better than what countries or which has more freedoms or what the root causes of violence in our society is or whatever... I don't feel I'm really qualified to. Those are matters that you seem to be stuck on.

But I do feel I'm qualified to say that for the last 50,000 years, the human (or human civilization) with the biggest stick has defined what "freedom" is.

And I do feel I'm in a place to say what the Founding Fathers of the U.S.'s intent was when they secured the Second Amendment to ensure that the citizenry of the U.S. would be in a place to protect their individual freedoms and liberties in the future - from enemies foreign and domestic.

And that's really all I've said on the matter, I think.

Where you get your slanders from that is beyond me.

Mediachick 04-19-2007 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanton (Post 12280898)
please reference where I said I carry a gun. I stated that I have loaded and kept a gun handy when the occasion called for it . . I never said I carry a gun . . don't worry I never wanna see you nakid . . so a question to you; is being a pimp any relation to you not caring?

Carrying a gun to a content shoot is carrying a gun. What else do you wanna call it? And how do you know that the situation is 'called for it'? I wasnt implying to ever having you seeing ME naked, but to have any model modeling nude for whatever projects you are working on, geeze. As for being a pimp, um, well what do you mean by that exactly? I dont see the point in this towards that discussion to be honest.

Again, my only point was that if you are so paranoid to the point of 'having/carrying/keeping a gun handy, then how could you blame anyone to not trust a guy shooting porn with a gun near by? In fact all I am doing here is following your logic of 'security'.

Grapesoda 04-19-2007 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mediachick (Post 12281022)
Carrying a gun to a content shoot is carrying a gun. What else do you wanna call it? And how do you know that the situation is 'called for it'? I wasnt implying to ever having you seeing ME naked, but to have any model modeling nude for whatever projects you are working on, geeze. As for being a pimp, um, well what do you mean by that exactly? I dont see the point in this towards that discussion to be honest.

Again, my only point was that if you are so paranoid to the point of 'having/carrying/keeping a gun handy, then how could you blame anyone to not trust a guy shooting porn with a gun near by? In fact all I am doing here is following your logic of 'security'.

I've shot thousands of models doing all kinds of stuff . . 98% of the time there are no probs and don't worry, we'll never do any biz together :)

Anthony 04-19-2007 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 12280650)
Yup, and thats why so many countries are more free than the US without everyone owning a gun.

Fucking imbecile. How exactly do you get statements like this? Do you read them somewhere or make them up yourself or what?

“He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one.” - Jesus, Luke 22:36

“The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops.” - Noah Webster

Grapesoda 04-19-2007 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by D (Post 12280974)
As I told you yesterday, bro... there's no need to call me names in an effort to compensate whatever it is you're attempting to compensate for.

As far as where I got that statement, it's my own... having taken roughly a dozen political science and history courses, Americanism and Western/Human/Evolutionary History are all hobby subjects of mine.... maybe not as favored as biology, astronomy, zymurgy, or mathematics... but they rank up there in my interests.

I'm not arguing what countries better than what countries or which has more freedoms or what the root causes of violence in our society is or whatever... I don't feel I'm really qualified to. Those are matters that you seem to be stuck on.

But I do feel I'm qualified to say that for the last 50,000 years, the human (or human civilization) with the biggest stick has defined what "freedom" is.

And I do feel I'm in a place to say what the Founding Fathers of the U.S.'s intent was when they secured the Second Amendment to ensure that the citizenry of the U.S. would be in a place to protect their individual freedoms and liberties in the future - from enemies foreign and domestic.

And that's really all I've said on the matter, I think.

Where you get your slanders from that is beyond me.

hey d, I study social anthropology, the histories of societies and the role of the individuals along with comparative religions, social trends, cultural myths, and cultural migrations as a hobby . . what a hoot!! ever read any thomas sowell? -bmb

Anthony 04-19-2007 12:21 PM

“I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.” - George Mason, during Virginia’s Convention to Ratify the Constitution (1788)

“arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property…Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them.” - Thomas Paine

“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.” - Thomas Jefferson

“The said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms.” - Samuel Adams, U.S. Constitution ratification convention, 1788

“Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American.” - Tench Coxe, of Pennsylvania, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788

“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe.” - Noah Webster, Principles of the Federal Constitution, Philadelphia, 1787

“The rights of conscience, of bearing arms, of changing the government, are declared to be inherent in the people.” - Fisher Ames, Letter to F.R. Minoe, 1789

“The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good.” - George Washington

“What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that the people preserve the spirit of resistance?” - Thomas Jefferson, 1787

“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” - Thomas Jefferson

Matt 26z 04-19-2007 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12280118)
Where do you think they get their guns? They break into nice middle class homes and steal them?

I love how some of you think. That if you eliminate the guns from the law abiding citizens, then the criminals won't have their gun supply anymore.

You couldn't be any more wrong.

The fact is that if you banned guns today and were somehow able to stop anyone on American soil from obtaining a new gun, there are so many in circulation that it would be many decades before they were confiscated or broke.

And there is one other very important factor to this. Europe's anti-gun laws work because every country in the region has them. The criminals can't easily trade guns from country to country. However if you ban guns in the US, they still come in from Mexico along with the drugs and go directly into the hands of street gangs.

Foreigners seem to think that Americans at all levels are at risk of being shot. That is sooooo wrong. Assuming you don't live in an area that is predominately black and Mexican (not trying to be racist, just stating a fact), you will probably go your entire life without hearing a gunshot in your neighborhood.

HeadPimp 04-19-2007 12:25 PM

Well, we may have guns and that scares everyone, but according to these numbers, we aren't so bad in murder rates. Anyone want to move to Columbia?

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...ers-per-capita

Mediachick 04-19-2007 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanton (Post 12281082)
I've shot thousands of models doing all kinds of stuff . . 98% of the time there are no probs and don't worry, we'll never do any biz together :)

NO SHIT. I was the first one to state that fyi. :1orglaugh Anyway since you seem to only see what you want to see in what I am stating and ignoring the comments that are actually the most relevent to the actual discussion, I will just wish you good luck in your work. Oh and after reading your sig, there is no wonder that the ppl you deal with have no problems with guns. They probably have no problem with anything as long as there is money to be made. We're defintely not in the same niche ;)

Cheers.

Grapesoda 04-19-2007 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 12281121)
I love how some of you think. That if you eliminate the guns from the law abiding citizens, then the criminals won't have their gun supply anymore.

You couldn't be any more wrong.

The fact is that if you banned guns today and were somehow able to stop anyone on American soil from obtaining a new gun, there are so many in circulation that it would be many decades before they were confiscated or broke.

And there is one other very important factor to this. Europe's anti-gun laws work because every country in the region has them. The criminals can't easily trade guns from country to country. However if you ban guns in the US, they still come in from Mexico along with the drugs and go directly into the hands of street gangs.

Foreigners seem to think that Americans at all levels are at risk of being shot. That is sooooo wrong. Assuming you don't live in an area that is predominately black and Mexican (not trying to be racist, just stating a fact), you will probably go your entire life without hearing a gunshot in your neighborhood.

the very fact that these peeps push opinions in the thread opposing guns has qualified them as 'nuts' the thread is addressed to anti gun NUTS . . . :) makes everything nice and clear doesn't it?

Anthony 04-19-2007 12:31 PM

I think this quote says it the best...

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“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.” - Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanalysis

Anthony 04-19-2007 12:32 PM

Oh wait. I"m sorry, this one is good too... :)

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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed- unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.” - James Madison

Grapesoda 04-19-2007 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mediachick (Post 12281143)
NO SHIT. I was the first one to state that fyi. :1orglaugh Anyway since you seem to only see what you want to see in what I am stating and ignoring the comments that are actually the most relevent to the actual discussion, I will just wish you good luck in your work. Oh and after reading your sig, there is no wonder that the ppl you deal with have no problems with guns. They probably have no problem with anything as long as there is money to be made. We're defintely not in the same niche ;)

Cheers.

your condescending attitude of self superiority has allowed me to discount any information you might or might not have and I'm sure just like you are that your better than me in every way possible, along morally and spiritually superior too! hell I'm sure you're even a better shooter than me, better father, friend and kind to small animals!!!

Anthony 04-19-2007 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanton (Post 12281165)
your condescending attitude of self superiority has allowed me to discount any information you might or might not have and I'm sure just like you are that your better than me in every way possible, along morally and spiritually superior too! hell I'm sure you're even a better shooter than me, better father, friend and kind to small animals!!!

Sorry Brian, you are wrong.

I think you have nicer rack. :)

Grapesoda 04-19-2007 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 12281157)
I think this quote says it the best...

not bad from a coke head!

Grapesoda 04-19-2007 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 12281170)
Sorry Brian, you are wrong.

I think you have nicer rack. :)

got a new 'manzier' the other day too! :)

Anthony 04-19-2007 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanton (Post 12281176)
not bad from a coke head!

I was about to answer...

YOU MOTHERFUCKER! I've been clean for a long ass time now!

Then realized, you were talking about Freud. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Anthony 04-19-2007 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanton (Post 12281183)
got a new 'manzier' the other day too! :)

PICS OR BAN!!! :)

HeadPimp 04-19-2007 12:39 PM

If I got my math right, only one in ~23,000 people get murdered in the USA. Granted that is still higher than a lot of other places, like Japan, Switzerland and so on, but it still isn't bad and most of the violence is in pretty specific areas.

Besides, you don't have to kill people in Japan, they all are committing suicide! Not surprisingly, the countries with high murder rates, have low suicide rates. LOL...

http://headpimp.com/OutImg/Posts/murderstats.jpg

Mediachick 04-19-2007 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanton (Post 12281165)
your condescending attitude of self superiority has allowed me to discount any information you might or might not have and I'm sure just like you are that your better than me in every way possible, along morally and spiritually superior too! hell I'm sure you're even a better shooter than me, better father, friend and kind to small animals!!!

Translation: I definitely suck at defending any of my points so I will just add a bunch of nice fancy words together and hope it makes sense.

I didnt mean no offense in my earlier posts, just opinions. You were the one acting defensive and feeling attacked. If you cant stand a honest opinion, maybe you shouldnt start threads like this one? Just a suggestion.

Anthony 04-19-2007 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mediachick (Post 12281230)
Translation: I definitely suck at defending any of my points so I will just add a bunch of nice fancy words together and hope it makes sense.

I didnt mean no offense in my earlier posts, just opinions. You were the one acting defensive and feeling attacked. If you cant stand a honest opinion, maybe you shouldnt start threads like this one? Just a suggestion.

No offense, eh?

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Oh and after reading your sig, there is no wonder that the ppl you deal with have no problems with guns. They probably have no problem with anything as long as there is money to be made. We're defintely not in the same niche ;)
Yeah, I can see how you meant no offense in that condensending post.

D 04-19-2007 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanton (Post 12281108)
hey d, I study social anthropology, the histories of societies and the role of the individuals along with comparative religions, social trends, cultural myths, and cultural migrations as a hobby . . what a hoot!! ever read any thomas sowell? -bmb

Don't think I have... but I've read a few of the books on his homepage's suggested reading list.

I'll have to check him out.... "Black Rednecks and White Liberals" sounds like a good place to start. :)

Anthony 04-19-2007 12:50 PM

Right now, I'd like to blame the real fucking country responsible for the shootings at VTECH. </sarcasm>

GLOCK - AUSTRIA

D 04-19-2007 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 12281191)
I was about to answer...

YOU MOTHERFUCKER! I've been clean for a long ass time now!

Then realized, you were talking about Freud. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

There were plenty of good quotes in there.

Mediachick 04-19-2007 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 12281244)
No offense, eh?



Yeah, I can see how you meant no offense in that condensending post.

Yes, where do you see the offense in my "condensending" post? I havent adressed anything to you or him by saying this.

Here is what was said, basically: I dont think bringing guns to work is ethical. I admit I do not know how potentially dangerous Wanton is at; but if it is so threatening, maybe he should consider moving to a quieter ground for his own sake. That was a friendly advice. The rest was led by the fact that wanton think im an anti-gun freak. If he assumes this then I guess I can have my own assumptions too.

Anthony 04-19-2007 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mediachick (Post 12281379)
Yes, where do you see the offense in my "condensending" post? I havent adressed anything to you or him by saying this.

Here is what was said, basically: I dont think bringing guns to work is ethical. I admit I do not know how potentially dangerous Wanton is at; but if it is so threatening, maybe he should consider moving to a quieter ground for his own sake. That was a friendly advice. The rest was led by the fact that wanton think im an anti-gun freak. If he assumes this then I guess I can have my own assumptions too.

I believe I quoted the part of your post that we condensending.

Wanton is a dangerous man. Dangerous, with a capital D.

Mediachick 04-19-2007 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 12281474)
I believe I quoted the part of your post that we condensending.

Wanton is a dangerous man. Dangerous, with a capital D.


Thanks for your deep explanation.

Anthony 04-19-2007 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mediachick (Post 12281737)
Thanks for your deep explanation.

You're just mad because I said Brian has a better rack than you.

Sorry.

But, it's true.

Grapesoda 04-19-2007 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 12281197)
PICS OR BAN!!! :)

http://www.orfc.com/pictures/WACOFC2003.JPG

hot link :)

Anthony 04-19-2007 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanton (Post 12281771)

I rest my case. :1orglaugh

Grapesoda 04-19-2007 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by D (Post 12281249)
Don't think I have... but I've read a few of the books on his homepage's suggested reading list.

I'll have to check him out.... "Black Rednecks and White Liberals" sounds like a good place to start. :)

he's a real interesting guy . . read some of his editorials . teaches economics at Sanford

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/t.../archive.shtml

I have black redneck, white liberals . . conquest and culture is the first book of his I read

Grapesoda 04-19-2007 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 12281191)
I was about to answer...

YOU MOTHERFUCKER! I've been clean for a long ass time now!

Then realized, you were talking about Freud. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

clean and serene 17.4 years here :)

Mediachick 04-19-2007 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 12281747)
You're just mad because I said Brian has a better rack than you.

Sorry.

But, it's true.

Uh huh. Your responses explains alot to me. I guess you ran out of Freudian quotes for that one? Im sorry but I was having a discussion on a serious matter; I trully have no time for that sort of 12 years old humor. This is an adult board btw hun.

Anthony 04-19-2007 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mediachick (Post 12281822)
Uh huh. Your responses explains alot to me. I guess you ran out of Freudian quotes for that one?

Sorry, I don't take you serious enough.

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Im sorry but I was having a discussion on a serious matter; I trully have no time for that sort of 12 years old humor.
Were you really? I guess discussion and forcing your viewpoint down someone's throat means the same to you.

Typical woman.

:error

adultseo 04-19-2007 02:28 PM

In The Netherlands guns are not alowed. So it feels pretty safe when you have a fight at college for example, knowing that the other person will not be able to shoot you if a problem occurs. Ofcourse there will be some people with guns carrying arround, however, since it is illegal to have them you are still able to rely on the fact that the one carrying will be very carefull to use it.

MaDalton 04-19-2007 03:30 PM

i don't need guns - and thinking about having guns around when we have models here makes me laugh. a girl stole a dildo once - maybe i should have shot her

Grapesoda 04-19-2007 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 12282233)
i don't need guns - and thinking about having guns around when we have models here makes me laugh. a girl stole a dildo once - maybe i should have shot her

your area has a very high murder rate too . . all of eastern euro is way up there on the chart . . that's comical all right :)

MaDalton 04-19-2007 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanton (Post 12282294)
your area has a very high murder rate too . . all of eastern euro is way up there on the chart . . that's comical all right :)

the biggest criminals in czech republic are the cab drivers - everyone who has been in prague knows what i mean

well, even your government knows that :winkwink:

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CRIME: The Czech Republic generally has a low rate of crime. However, street crime ?particularly pick-pocketing and occasional mugging ?is a problem, especially in major tourist areas in Prague. Travelers are encouraged to be especially vigilant in Prague?s restaurants, train stations, and on public transportation around the city center. Reported incidents of pick pocketing in 2005 were up by 2 percent over 2004. Incidents of violent crime, while still relatively infrequent, are becoming more common in Prague. Travelers should be aware of the reported use of rohypnol, and other ?date rape? drugs in the Czech Republic. Caution should be used when accepting open drinks at bars or clubs. Travelers should be very careful while riding trains, trams or metro, where most crime occurs. Keep a copy of your passport in a safe place separate from the passport itself; this copy can help you to apply for a new passport if yours is lost or stolen. Visitors should be alert to the potential for substantial overcharging by taxis, particularly in areas frequented by tourists. Radio-dispatched taxis are often much more reliable. It is also advisable to set the price in advance.
and over the last 3 years i haven't heard of even one murder case around here

maybe because no one has guns? who knows...


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