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As far as where I got that statement, it's my own... having taken roughly a dozen political science and history courses, Americanism and Western/Human/Evolutionary History are all hobby subjects of mine.... maybe not as favored as biology, astronomy, zymurgy, or mathematics... but they rank up there in my interests. I'm not arguing what countries better than what countries or which has more freedoms or what the root causes of violence in our society is or whatever... I don't feel I'm really qualified to. Those are matters that you seem to be stuck on. But I do feel I'm qualified to say that for the last 50,000 years, the human (or human civilization) with the biggest stick has defined what "freedom" is. And I do feel I'm in a place to say what the Founding Fathers of the U.S.'s intent was when they secured the Second Amendment to ensure that the citizenry of the U.S. would be in a place to protect their individual freedoms and liberties in the future - from enemies foreign and domestic. And that's really all I've said on the matter, I think. Where you get your slanders from that is beyond me. |
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Again, my only point was that if you are so paranoid to the point of 'having/carrying/keeping a gun handy, then how could you blame anyone to not trust a guy shooting porn with a gun near by? In fact all I am doing here is following your logic of 'security'. |
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“The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops.” - Noah Webster |
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“I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.” - George Mason, during Virginia’s Convention to Ratify the Constitution (1788)
“arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property…Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them.” - Thomas Paine “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.” - Thomas Jefferson “The said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms.” - Samuel Adams, U.S. Constitution ratification convention, 1788 “Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American.” - Tench Coxe, of Pennsylvania, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788 “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe.” - Noah Webster, Principles of the Federal Constitution, Philadelphia, 1787 “The rights of conscience, of bearing arms, of changing the government, are declared to be inherent in the people.” - Fisher Ames, Letter to F.R. Minoe, 1789 “The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good.” - George Washington “What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that the people preserve the spirit of resistance?” - Thomas Jefferson, 1787 “The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” - Thomas Jefferson |
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You couldn't be any more wrong. The fact is that if you banned guns today and were somehow able to stop anyone on American soil from obtaining a new gun, there are so many in circulation that it would be many decades before they were confiscated or broke. And there is one other very important factor to this. Europe's anti-gun laws work because every country in the region has them. The criminals can't easily trade guns from country to country. However if you ban guns in the US, they still come in from Mexico along with the drugs and go directly into the hands of street gangs. Foreigners seem to think that Americans at all levels are at risk of being shot. That is sooooo wrong. Assuming you don't live in an area that is predominately black and Mexican (not trying to be racist, just stating a fact), you will probably go your entire life without hearing a gunshot in your neighborhood. |
Well, we may have guns and that scares everyone, but according to these numbers, we aren't so bad in murder rates. Anyone want to move to Columbia?
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...ers-per-capita |
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Cheers. |
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I think this quote says it the best...
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Oh wait. I"m sorry, this one is good too... :)
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I think you have nicer rack. :) |
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YOU MOTHERFUCKER! I've been clean for a long ass time now! Then realized, you were talking about Freud. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh |
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If I got my math right, only one in ~23,000 people get murdered in the USA. Granted that is still higher than a lot of other places, like Japan, Switzerland and so on, but it still isn't bad and most of the violence is in pretty specific areas.
Besides, you don't have to kill people in Japan, they all are committing suicide! Not surprisingly, the countries with high murder rates, have low suicide rates. LOL... http://headpimp.com/OutImg/Posts/murderstats.jpg |
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I didnt mean no offense in my earlier posts, just opinions. You were the one acting defensive and feeling attacked. If you cant stand a honest opinion, maybe you shouldnt start threads like this one? Just a suggestion. |
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I'll have to check him out.... "Black Rednecks and White Liberals" sounds like a good place to start. :) |
Right now, I'd like to blame the real fucking country responsible for the shootings at VTECH. </sarcasm>
GLOCK - AUSTRIA |
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There were plenty of good quotes in there. |
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Here is what was said, basically: I dont think bringing guns to work is ethical. I admit I do not know how potentially dangerous Wanton is at; but if it is so threatening, maybe he should consider moving to a quieter ground for his own sake. That was a friendly advice. The rest was led by the fact that wanton think im an anti-gun freak. If he assumes this then I guess I can have my own assumptions too. |
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Wanton is a dangerous man. Dangerous, with a capital D. |
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Thanks for your deep explanation. |
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Sorry. But, it's true. |
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hot link :) |
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http://www.townhall.com/columnists/t.../archive.shtml I have black redneck, white liberals . . conquest and culture is the first book of his I read |
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Typical woman. :error |
In The Netherlands guns are not alowed. So it feels pretty safe when you have a fight at college for example, knowing that the other person will not be able to shoot you if a problem occurs. Ofcourse there will be some people with guns carrying arround, however, since it is illegal to have them you are still able to rely on the fact that the one carrying will be very carefull to use it.
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i don't need guns - and thinking about having guns around when we have models here makes me laugh. a girl stole a dildo once - maybe i should have shot her
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well, even your government knows that :winkwink: Quote:
maybe because no one has guns? who knows... |
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