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Just as you have the right to carry a gun, she has the legal right to abort her baby if she chooses. Splum, you have argued in for the destruction of life (war) and now the preservation of life (against abortion). To me these two points of view seem to be at odds with one and other. So my question to you is this, would you support the abortion of Osama Bin Laddens child if you found out that the mom wanted to terminate her pregnancy? (You must assume here that the mom in question is a nice lady who you have nothing against, someone you would be friends with, and most importantly that she is a nice law abiding US citizen from birth) |
There are 160,000 children in foster care so adoption isnt the answer automatically. Your body your choice but there really is no excuse not to use birth control in this day and age.
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None of you have obviously gone through losing a CHILD who was just over 20 weeks gestation. Yes, my twin boys were born at just over 20 weeks. Yes they were alive for several days and if it wasn't for some other complications they could have lived -- many others do. I talked, they responded by reaching out and grabbing my fingers just as they did during the ultrasounds WEEKS before.
The Drs wanted to abort the babies due to complications (Twin to Twin Transfusion syndrome). They said there was no chance to be born alive, etc. They were wrong. They were born alive and lived several days, not hours, and died due to complications NOT associated with their gestational age. I dont' care what any of you say, I KNOW the child is living inside of you. Kittylix, you are only a few weeks away from where my children were. What you do with your body is your choice, but please think everything through. If you were raped or had an unexpected pregnancy, alright. Get the abortion done as soon as you find out. But you are saying this was a wanted pregnancy and you want out because your BF left you. Thats rediculous. I know of several adult webmasters who have adopted, I know a few more who have wanted to adopt but couldn't find a newborn child. I know of 4 families locally here in Tampa who are on a waiting list to adopt a newborn. In many cases you can have all of your medical paid for if you choose adoption. Even if you don't choose adoption, you could have court ordered support paid to you by the father. There are so many different options... think them through. |
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THERE IS A WAITING LIST FOR NEWBORNS. |
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I would say forget the abortion.. it's your choice, but there is so many other ways you can have contact with this child and make him/her happy.. i dunno. Tough issue :(
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Hey Splum, no response to my question in #81?
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Hey Splum, no response to my question in #81?
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You keep acting like the world is "one" when clearly it is not. Ultimately I only care about only the people in my tribe, aka "United States". That being said, innocent children, women and men in other countries who are killed by United States military action(99.9% of it unintended collateral damage) is sad, but if it means with those actions an American life is potentially saved it is necessary. The question about Mrs Bin Laden is just absurd, anyone can say in hindsight to abort as evil a person as Osama as a baby. You cannot predict what a newborn will become in life so that question is just fucking stupid. That being said abortions in other countries are not my concern. Abortions in the United States ARE my concern. |
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I don't particularly like Abortion but under certain circumstances then I know some people have to do it.
I think you're brave to ask for peoples opinion on it and it really can't be easy raising a Special Needs child already. Whatever you do, I'm sure you'll make the best decision for you and the unborn child. I would never judge anyone in your position. |
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA! Nice. |
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I have no guilt,and if I was a woman and had an abortion I would be guiltless. I feel more guilty for being born in Canada and having an easy life compared to those born in 3rd world shitholes. Abortion images? Oh you mean the same thing retarded bible thumping seniors hold up outside abortion clinics? |
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Fuck off bitch, so you're saying she should BECOME A FUCKING WHORE TO SUPPORT A BABY? You fucking idiot, just because your man's tool is broken, you spew this jealous shit on here? "Odd jobs on Craigslist" Yeah, $100 for an hour odd jobs? Bitch. |
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>shrug< If Hitler had been aborted, would the world actually be a better place today? Besides, if your father was aborted, you'd probably have just popped up somewhere else in another body, completely unaware. |
Huggles whats the matter, trying to justify all your abortions?
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Justify? Why would anyone need to justify an abortion? You don't want it, terminate it, done. What's more to discuss? This planet is full of people who are alive, suffering, and unloved. Why do people focus on trying to "save" masses of unaware flesh, when there are children who can talk and tell you of their heartaches, sitting alone in an orphanage somewhere? |
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Where were you before you were born? Why did you pick "1978" to appear the first time you're born here? Certainly I was somewhere, doing something, before I was born in 1978. Seems far more logical and simple than belief in God, Heaven, and Hell. |
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Look at some of the jungle whores you post pics of, most of them have kids. GREAT. Glad to see those people reproducing like bunnies and producing over and over and over without care or thought. There's children all around the world that won't have opportunity because none of us give a shit about them. We DO apparently care about unborn lumps of flesh who people abort, ooohhhhh, then we DO care. The kids that are already here? Who cares? Nobody. |
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You just owned yourself. There might be a waiting list for newborns, but look, 160,000 kids are without a home and unloved. Splum, why don't you adopt one and step up and show these evil abortionists how you be a good parent? |
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THERE ARE NO NEWBORNS IN FOSTER CARE Had those children been allowed to be adopted at birth instead of taken away from the home at 8 years old they would already have homes. There are waiting lists to adopt NEWBORNS. The thread starting bitch is saying she doesnt want her child adopted because its easier just to kill it, and then she laughs about it. You what fuck you for defending a murderer who laughs about not letting the baby have a chance at life with new parents. People like that end up crying on the bathroom floor one day when they are older thinking about the murder they caused, then they turn on the warm water in the bathtub grab a pack of straight razors and do the right thing in the end. |
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Hahahaha "A chance at life" Hahahahaha. Seriously. You haven't addressed what I've said once. How many children have you helped saved? How many children living in horrible conditions overseas have you attempted to help? 0. However, you're all about defending lumps of flesh who are unaware. Are you against the morning after pill too? Then you make the bitter cunt comment alluding to people killing themselves over abortion. What's wrong with you? Is this just a board persona? When you sit down and think about it, there are far, far, far worse things in this world going on than people aborting non-aware lumps of flesh. There are people and children suffering all over this world which is FAR more important to help those already here and in need. Then again, anti-abortionists never have their heads planted in reality. |
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At 14 weeks I believe it's more than just a bunch of cells. KittyLix, have you felt your baby kick yet? If not, it won't be long now. |
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I rather obviously wouldn't have 'popped up' somewhere without my father..since biology is the basis for people being okay with abortions (and again my post as not anti-choice) then surely you would understand that. |
It?s a sad commentary on ?civilization? when the destruction of life or of potential life is based on whether or not it?s convenient.
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Honestly, the world is already full of people with extremely difficult and painful lives. Why add to it? Why not help people already here and worry about them instead of non-sentient lumps of flesh? |
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Real sorry you have had to had more trauma above and beyond having to make the decison to have an abortion. Fuck those stupid redneck arsehole. Fuck the idiot that published your details. You better save some $$ and move. All the best |
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How could it be anyones decision but the mothers. All the anti-abortion lobby are fundamental nutcases and/or people with nothing else to do but argue for the sake of arguing. |
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