They posted in this thread.

Lets say i believe everything in this post my question is then why the fuck do you still talk to her or have anything to do with her ?

If any female pulled the shit you are implying in this post she would be gone no matter what it took from my life.

Because he would rather be a tormented martyr.

On a serious note, I thought you guys took care of all legal matters when you were still living together? And if you didn't, why not?

You lived together for a while after breaking up if I recall correctly. Were it me, the legal issues would have been top priority.

BTW, great seeing you, and thanks for joining us. We had a blast. Hope you did not lose too much. I know I did not envy you the next day having to be somewhere at 8 AM, I was dragging all day.

Honestly, here it is:

1. I don't talk to her too much. A little, but not much. Very little, actually. We were together 6 years, from the time she was 19 until she was 25. I watched her change a lot. She had a tough childhood and I really loved her. I am stupid enough to think that most of what has happened is because Mark is a controlling asshole that is telling her what to think, and that much of this crap isn't coming from HER, but from him. He's admitted himself that he's a very jealous person.

2. Mark's ex told me to watch for certain things happening, and what those certain things meant. I've seen her exact words happen to Belinda and it scares the hell out of me. Perhaps I shouldn't care, but I do.

3. Ego. I hate that she left me for him. Pure and simple.

4. Despite all these, I gave up a long time ago and things were lying pretty dormant. Mark recently roused them again. I contacted him 3 times over the course of a week asking him to stop, but I really think he was trying to force something to happen. That way he can make it look like I was messing with them again.

was a blast thanks for dinner remind goodgirl to send me text/url for her link i got up fine the next day a little tired working a convention all weekend heading to bed in a few got to be back up tomorow at 8am not used to waking up that early

LOL

Yes I thought that was a bit of a silly comment.

There were still a lot of loose ends. Much more than anticipated. Belinda was lucky enough to move out of the area and to her out of sight is out of mind.

And up until she started making it clear that she wanted to be with Mark (which was after she moved out) the plan had always been to take a break from each other and try again in a few months. We both thought some breathing room would do us good and we'd be able to work things out.

But then she decided to move in with Mark, and everything went downhill even more than it already was.

I have been in a similar situation to you before i have learned the best way to get over someone is to not call them, talk to them, or see them till you get to the point you dont give a fuck any more does not matter if it takes 6 days or 6 years to do the sooner you realize that you need to stop talking to her and having anything to do with her the better off you will be.

That's the best advice yet. Sitting around tormenting yourself by e-mailing, calling, and keeping up-to-date on every detail of the other person's life is just unhealthy. Just close off that person and that life and move on to new things.

Should we start a pool on whether or not this will be closed in 4 hours?

Sometimes I also want to know how my dogs are doing. If a man will grab his own small child by the hair and drag him across a table, if he'll pick that child up by the neck and pin him to the wall while screaming at him, if he'll do that same thing to his step daughter... who know what he'll do to my Beagles.

By the way, I have no proof that Mark did those things to his children. That's just what his ex told me and said her parents witnessed it too. So please don't think I'm slandering him. She said it happened. I've known her awhile and don't think she lies. My Beagles can be very challenging at times and I can see such a person hurting them. I've asked how the dogs are a few times and if it didn't seem so ridiculous I'd have asked the courts for doggy visitation rights but that seems like a stupid thing to go to court for. I'd rather just ask once in awhile.

Recently I was scared because there was a dog thread posted here on GFY and Belinda posted a photo of only one dog, the female. I'm wondering if that's because something happened to the male. Those are the types of thoughts that go through my head. What happened to Andy? He's probably just fine, but Belinda normally posts pics of both dogs 'cause she's proud of them.

Yeah, silly. I feel silly for worrying about Beagles, but those two dogs are wonderful creatures. They have such an awesome personality.

I wish she'd give them to her mom so I'd know they were safe. She could still see them once in awhile.

Yeah, dumb. I know.

he has been given this advice on multiple occasions . . . . it is not what he wants to hear

Over under is 5 hours i hear

Now you are just making excuses. Take her to fucking court for custody if it is that big of a deal.

yea you just dont get it i feel sorry for you i really do hope you figure it out soon nothing good will happen for you till you do.

Good luck im off to bed

gnite

Is that what you've been TOLD by Mark and Belinda? Imagine that. The other side of the story is that I DO leave them alone. Please read this thread again. The ONLY thing I've contacted them about is business with the exception of the event I admitted to above. Other than that, it's been only about business and only as a last resort.

For awhile I didn't even know where to send Belinda's mail and she had been too lazy to put in for a change of address.

I've told her over and over and over to change her address with CCBill for checks yet they still arrive in her name.

These two don't want things to change as much as they let on. I think it's a fun game for them. Their relationship is founded on pure shit so if they have a common enemy (me) it somehow makes them feel closer or something.

There are two sides to every story. 3 in this case.

Thing is, I admit to my mistakes. I publicly write about them in my blog all the time. Read "The 19 Year Old Girl" on my blog. Or read the post I wrote where I admit to how bad I got that last year.

Mark and Belinda, on the other hand, like to stir crap behind the scenes. I'm out in the open. An open book. Mark's a master manipulator and you just might possibly be one of those manipulated.

Again, don't think he wouldn't do that to you if he'd do it to Lori after being with her 7 years and having kids together. You're nothin' special to him, my man.

Ahaha, ok, now that potential child abuse claims have been made, I expect this thread to be deleted by morning.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh


Sorry.. but a mental picture of a custody battle in court for a pair of dogs is funny

Uh... so stop making the deposits. She would change awful quick once she stopped getting the money.

Do you deposit the checks in hopes of her realizing what a "great guy" you were even during these times so that when and if they break up she'll come back crying to you? Sounds like it.

I would not go out of my way to help a woman that broke my heart unless I was stupid enough to think I could get her back.

I very clearly said that's just something his ex said to me. I clearly stated I have no proof that it is true.

But you're right: that will be a great excuse to lock the thread or delete it completely.



And baddog, the dogs are just things I worry about. I didn't contact Belinda to ask why Andy wasn't pictured. I was just rambling about the thoughts that passed through my head.

line just moved to 2 hours

I have checks for her in my car that I haven't deposited.

The second paragraph: I don't want her back, but I will admit that I don't want her to think of me as the monster Mark's been trying to convince her that I am. So, yes, I do want her to think I'm still the same person I was for the 5 years before we met Mark. Not to get her back, but to let her see reality instead of the picture Mark's been painting.

NO, IT IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU FOR MONTHS.

Why the fuck you think I have discussions with him about you is beyond me.

lets see that myspace picture of spannow´s page

Well you've been having them with SOMEONE because you post and hint at things you'd not be able to hint at otherwise. So it's either him or her. He's a proven liar and she's "blinded by love" right now and therefore willing to see everything through the rose colored glasses he slips on her face.

It's amazing to see the "revelations" she's come to see after being with him. He takes the good things we had and twists them into somehow being bad. Once it was obvious she was going to swallow all his BS I stopped trying to tell her anything except business (with the exception I mentioned earlier in this thread) long ago.

Tell me where to email it so it can be posted. My URL's banned on GFY.

return to sender always worked for me

There are ALWAYS three sides to every story.

I used to read what you wrote on your blog and I told you what I thought of it. Pure bullshit. Get off the fucking cross, you are becoming one of the most un-Christian people I know


Why do you think I give a flying fuck what Mark, Belinda or you thinks of me?

CA is a community property state.

All those things sound like a whole lot of "not your problem". If she doesn't forward her mail, return to sender. Her checks are not your poblem. The same goes for the car and whatever else you felt the need to do for her. She's a grown woman, if her car gets towed and stuck at an impound for a month, not your problem.

And as for her dating a guy who may be a jerk, abusive, or whatever. Again, not your problem. All those excuses to contact her are just that, excuses to contact her.

You aren't the same person you were for the 5 years before you met Mark.

Why do you lie to yourself?

Bullshit. You are just so transparent that anyone that is paying attention can see thru you. I don't "hint" at shit, never have.

Just like your suicidal tendancies comment . . . I saw that coming a mile away and never visited anyone's myspace account

Here's the thing:

I'm on an adult board and I've made lots of enemies here. No matter what I say, the two of them will come on later and refute it all and you'll all believe them instead of me. This is just a waste of time. I think I'll just log off and watch a movie.

Believe what you wish. Yep, I'm a bit off my rocker. That's what happens to someone who gets their heart broken. Belinda was everything to me and I intended to be with her for life. Watching her fall in love with another man over the course of 18 months, fighting to make that stop and not being successful, then losing everything I've owned (including my dogs) and starting over with really screwed up credit, having all my "friends" completely abandon me... all that will do things to a person. But I'm dealing. I've been going to counseling and attempting to make new memories.

So what if I'm involved in church? Isn't the adult industry supposed to be "open minded"? Does that open mindedness only extend to those who are "like minded"? It certainly seems that way.

And even if I was bashing the industry, like so many insist, have I hurt any of your paychecks with my words?

So by all means, please wait for Mark and Belinda to come back on and tell all of you how screwed up I am. How crazy I am. Then just believe it. Don't go back and compare anything I've written to what they say, just believe them. Have fun with that.

Mark's a very charming person. He's great with words and persuasion. He'll have you seeing things his way without any problem. Sorry, I'm not as slick as him.

I'm out for now. I'm not promising I won't be back but I really shouldn't be. Besides, I'll be locked out again somehow, I'm sure.

'Night for now...

baddog shut the fuck up, you are over 70 years old, what the fuck are you still doing here you? You are the most pathetic guy here without any drama.
Go to the fucking park and feed the birds.

I'm sorry . . . who are you?

Donny,

Seriously its time to stop interacting with either of them for any reason. Stop blogging about them which I am sure they read and don't like having out in the open for all to read. Which then causes retaliation and threads like this.

Stop depositing the checks for her. For anything business related its time to get a third party involved that will be the go between to handle the last few items that come up until a clean break is had.

There should be Zero reason for you to contact either of them going foward, all it does is cause issues.

You all deserve to just go your separate ways and get on with life. This BS solves nothing and just keeps prolonging the problem and your ultimate misery.

Probably will fall on deaf ears but hey....

A person who doesnt want to hangout on forums such as GFY at age 70.
You must really have a terrible life, yet you try so hard, SO HARD to tell the GFY´ers about your life.

"Today i had lunch with my daughter.."
"Im going to spend christmas with my son, who works as a firefighter..."

You need confirmation from GFY´ers, you are truely a sick bastard.
Move on grandpa. Face it, your children are ashamed of you.
Who wouldnt be.