I have a case on at the moment. A Czech magazine, like the ones they sellin the supermarkets in the US, stole one of my pics from the net and printed it.

We are suing them, expecting a nice paycheck. They could have settled but called my bluff. But I have to go to court, pay lawyers and spend my time to sort this out.

How much easier it would be if I could just put APIC onto them. SE is the only solution I have seen that works and until any of you come up with a better answer he is who we have to stick with.

Otherwise idiots like Darkdoodoo would run riot.

Charly
I agree with you in that case, from the facts that you have given.

You have a right to prosecute what you feel is an infringement of your copyright or trademark; however, you may be comparing apples to oranges.

Fact is, there are fair use laws in the United States which are still being ironed out.

For example, Google and other search engines have their image search and cache features that store copies of images. They do not have the specific permission from copyright holders to do this; yet, it is done. The use of thumbnails in an informative context has been specifically upheld as being legal.

If people want to have a "legal" celeb site with other people's copyrighted images, they can do it given fair use laws. It may be difficult, but it _can_ be done. However, we have those pesky ethical considerations again LOL.

As I said I'm not going to do somebody's legal research for them, but these are interesting brief reads:

A paper titled "Digital Images and Fair Use Web Sites"
http://www.utsystem.edu/ogc/intellec...y/portland.htm

Photos and Fair Use Online: From Penthouse Pets to Kelly's Thumbnails
http://www.gigalaw.com/articles/2002...i-2002-03.html

Putting pages up with pics of celebs, focusing on SE placement for those names and flying banners and popping porn exits is far from Fair Use.

How dare you accuse him of such a thing! He was making nothing from those pictures, nothing I tell ya! It must be true 'cause he said so!

Fletch XXX

Perhaps your opinion is correct, but again I point to:
http://www.mrskin.com/

http://www.mrskin.com/all/index.html
Mentions "Who's the boss" and of course, the female star.

Just because you don't like something or you consider it to be unethical doesn't mean it is illegal.

I worry that if it is easy to take down a site on the basis of some presumed violation of copyright law, how easy will it be for parental organizations with structures similar to APIC to take down or block free adult sites on the basis of some presumed violation of "community standards?"

Ah, you're doing it out of the goodness of your heart, you just love your surfers?
That's not the point.
Sure they have that right, if the person showing the pics has a license to do so.
Nor are they yours.
Go for it :)

I don't get it...you've been posting here for quite a while, so one would assume you've been an adult webmaster for some time. This is OLD news...shit, people have been busted over posting Alyssa Milano pics years ago.

dude, it's fair use ... just fucking put a bibliography on there and give credit and you're free of it all =)

err.. oh yeah .. and just don't make any money off it :-)

hahahaha

APIC is an organization that is paid by copyright holders to look for infringers on their work.

While I do not always agree with their methods, they are very diligent in finding people who are taking the 5 finger discount on images and profiting from their use.

IF you have a license to use images they claim you are using illegally, then get with the content provider who sold them to you and they should be able to take care of it for you.

Other than that, there's no real solution -- IF apic did turn out to be working for the particular copyright holder and you don't take it down, you'll probably get notice of a lawsuit from that company.

Read, consult a real lawyer.. not just those who play one on the internet. Especially read about the direct claims made against you. Right of Publicity is interesting. Don't listen to the content providers who post, because there's a definite difference between their unknown skanks and celebrity skanks.

Here's one article from UCLA Cyberspace Law that you can do some research from:
http://www.gseis.ucla.edu/iclp/manship1.htm

Another example of actual cases:
http://www.phillipsnizer.com/int-rightpub.htm
from this site that lists many more
http://www.phillipsnizer.com/internetlibrary.htm

More:
http://www.lawrencewalters.com/celebrity_fakes.php3

Thumbnails are Fair Use
http://biotech.law.lsu.edu/cases/IP/...rriba_soft.htm

Hello ? would you fucking read the thread fist before posting ?
Who did I steal the pictures from ? Who do they belong to? Who am i going to buy them from ? Maybe I should call Britney Spears and pay her ?

Celebrity pictures are taken by paparazis and even fans. I bet they didn't ask APIC to protect their rights because pictures belong to them.
How do you think newspapers post pictures ? You think they pay the celebrities for them ?

"I have a case on at the moment. A Czech magazine, like the ones they sellin the supermarkets in the US, stole one of my pics from the net and printed it."

Charly, which magazine? (Just curious...)

A lot of the pics you posted are clearly studio shots scanned from magazines. So please, for the love of god, shut your pie hole.

Vittorio sells "legal" celebrity content that he shot himself, that includes the Britney Spears beach shots.
http://www.hotamateurmpegs.com/sexycelebs/index.html

Looking for more Britney ? Alyssa Milano ? You can purchase them from WireImage.com also.
http://www.wireimage.com/CelebListing.asp?navtyp=CLB

Signup to promote MrSkin or CelebTicket and use their content to promote the "legal" programs.

they pay the paparazis, thats how they make money. if you want to use the same pictures you have to pay that paparazi.

gothweb - suck my ass, prick

Brujah - i do promote CelebTicket and use their content

Well, we learned something here :

1 - Don't do celeb sites or use celebrity pictures to sell something. Why risk something when there are 10000000000's of niche out there?

2 - If you do use celeb pictures and receive an e-mail from APIC. Do not post a message here about it.

3 - Have a nice day :winkwink:

What site does he run?