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baddog 04-12-2007 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Voodoo (Post 12240719)
Wouldn't a TGP be considered a "service provider" also? Providing a service of delivering porn in an organized listing for easy navigation?

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Jakke PNG 04-12-2007 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloomer (Post 12242511)
There should be a duration of say like every six months or so that any first party producer can submit content and once approved by the govenment thats the end of story!

In finland we have a system that ALL videos must be sent to be approved by Finnish Board of Film Classification. Each video is then given an unique identifier number which you must put out either on the back of the DVD, or next to the clip on the internet. example: http://www.porngreen.com/fi/ see the "X-#######" over each of the big thumbs? That's the identifier.

These are all in one big central database (this includes 'mainstream' hollywood movies too), where you can see who made the movie, who produced it, where, when, and whether the clip in question is legal or not. They manually review only fetish-stuff and teen porn.. 'vanilla porn' is automatically approved. Criminal charges are brought upon anyone who sells either non-marked movies, or movies that are deemed illegal (ie. Bumfights is illegal, as is rape and violence pornography).

Similar system in the US would help clear the air.

sarettah 04-12-2007 01:37 PM

You guys wanting the government to preapprove porn make me laugh my ass off.

I want the government as far away from my business as I can keep it and I would classify anyone who would openly invite the government into their business as extremely naive if not an outright fool.

Jakke PNG 04-12-2007 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 12243599)
I want the government as far away from my business as I can keep it and I would classify anyone who would openly invite the government into their business as extremely naive if not an outright fool.

Well.. not in a country where porn isn't considered a sin. It's just another job.

Bloomer 04-12-2007 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 12243599)
You guys wanting the government to preapprove porn make me laugh my ass off.

I want the government as far away from my business as I can keep it and I would classify anyone who would openly invite the government into their business as extremely naive if not an outright fool.

your right thats why Im suggesting an industry comity to handle such matters.
Im sure you are not the only one who feels this way,and Im not suggesting that (they)get a hold of you I am suggesting that the industry grows some balls and takes charge of what is theirs and shows these mutherfuckers what time it is!!!
By being organized and sticking it to them before they stick it to us....

sarettah 04-12-2007 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather (Post 12243621)
Well.. not in a country where porn isn't considered a sin. It's just another job.

Doesn't matter if it's porn or any other business. Any time you get the government involved it takes more paper, more time, more energy, more money to accomplish the same goal.

Governments should build roads and defend countries and that is about it.

sarettah 04-12-2007 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloomer (Post 12243622)
your right thats why Im suggesting an industry comity to handle such matters.
Im sure you are not the only one who feels this way,and Im not suggesting that (they)get a hold of you I am suggesting that the industry grows some balls and takes charge of what is theirs and shows these mutherfuckers what time it is!!!
By being organized and sticking it to them before they stick it to us....

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Originally Posted by an earlier post by you
to make matters a little easier for the court system I think there should be a porn submission comity (those who submit new content to the government)

Content should not have to be submitted to the government.

I have the right of free speech. It should not be assumed that I am going to abuse that right by putting up illegal content prior to me putting content up. In the United States that is known as prior infringement on free speech. The government should prosecute those who put illegal content up when they put it up. Period.

Bloomer 04-12-2007 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 12243659)
Doesn't matter if it's porn or any other business. Any time you get the government involved it takes more paper, more time, more energy, more money to accomplish the same goal.

Governments should build roads and defend countries and that is about it.

I I feel you on this but wouldnt it be nice to be part of a protected organization instead of fending for yourself and living in total paranoia?

sarettah 04-12-2007 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloomer (Post 12243699)
I I feel you on this but wouldnt it be nice to be part of a protected organization instead of fending for yourself and living in total paranoia?

You mean like the Crips or the Bloods ?? Or maybe the Mafia, I hear they protect pretty good.

I am an American, of course I live in total paranoia. That is the price of a free society.

JD 04-12-2007 02:02 PM

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Bloomer 04-12-2007 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 12243685)
Content should not have to be submitted to the government.

I have the right of free speech. It should not be assumed that I am going to abuse that right by putting up illegal content prior to me putting content up. In the United States that is known as prior infringement on free speech. The government should prosecute those who put illegal content up when they put it up. Period.

I also feel you on this and its that exact FREEDOM that some scumbags abuse and cause the people like you and many others to have a bad wrap in todays society!
Unfortunatley it has come down to this and your freedom is slowly being taken away by those scumfucks!
Consider this its almost the same as a firearms permit opposed to buying a gun off the street!
If you get pulled over searched and have a licesne to carry then your good but if you have an illegal gun in your glove compartment your going to prison!
It comes down to this unfortunatley and I think at least if we had some sort of comity we could trust and showed the government we were all compliant then that would give them no reason for any surprize visit shit or to totally ban porn from the country!
We then as an industry become professionals not heathens living in caves.

Voodoo 04-12-2007 02:06 PM

A TGP = "a service that refers or links users to an online location on the World Wide Web. Such term includes directories, indices, references, pointers, and hypertext links."

Voodoo 04-12-2007 02:08 PM

In fact, EVERY site can fall into this description "a service that refers or links users to an online location on the World Wide Web. Such term includes directories, indices, references, pointers, and hypertext links.

A paysite is a site that links users to an "online location on the World Wide Web".

How is this 2257 law going to apply to anyone? I say battle it to the death! There's so many loopholes in this it's rediculous.


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