Is Google considered a secondary producer?

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  • Voodoo
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    • Sep 2002
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    Is Google considered a secondary producer?

    Does Google have to provide 2257 for Google Images as a secondary producer? If not, what is the clause/loophole that allows them to get out of it? From what I understood, if the site has unmanaged content and is a form of communication, it is considered exempt, however, Google isn't really a form of communication, GTalk is, Google is not.

    Thoughts?

    Oh, and why are there 2 lightbulbs on the Post Icons @ GFY? ()

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    • Randyyy
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      • Jan 2007
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      #2
      interesting
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        • jact
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          • Sep 2002
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          #3
          They fall under the service provider category and are therefore exempt.
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            • Voodoo
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              • Sep 2002
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              #4
              Originally posted by jact
              They fall under the service provider category and are therefore exempt.
              Wouldn't a TGP be considered a "service provider" also? Providing a service of delivering porn in an organized listing for easy navigation?

              "I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."

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                • After Shock Media
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                  • Mar 2001
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                  #5
                  Are they not a remote computing service?

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                    • Domains_Broker
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                      • Dec 2005
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                      #6
                      I've been wondering this myself... how does one get this "exempt" status? Do I need a certain technology to qualify?

                      Or just notoriety and enough money to debate how information is indexed and classified in court...
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                        • The Sultan Of Smut
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                          • Dec 2004
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                          #7
                          No Google is not a secondary producer and not required to have 2257 documents because they have too much money to tie up this new law in court.

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                            • Domains_Broker
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                              • Dec 2005
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                              #8
                              exactly... and good lobbyists to suck-off all those religious zealots in DC
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                                • jact
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                                  • Sep 2002
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                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Voodoo
                                  Wouldn't a TGP be considered a "service provider" also? Providing a service of delivering porn in an organized listing for easy navigation?
                                  That's a good question to pose to a lawyer, however I would suspect only if it was 100% pure automated submissions with no approval process. Part of Google's catch is, it's purely automated and there's nobody at Google going out and actively seeking, or adding content.
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                                    • Jakke PNG
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                                      • Nov 2001
                                      • 20306
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Voodoo
                                      Oh, and why are there 2 lightbulbs on the Post Icons @ GFY? ()
                                      Now, that there is one intresting question.
                                      ..and I'm off.

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                                        • Jakke PNG
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                                          • Nov 2001
                                          • 20306
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by jact
                                          That's a good question to pose to a lawyer, however I would suspect only if it was 100% pure automated submissions with no approval process. Part of Google's catch is, it's purely automated and there's nobody at Google going out and actively seeking, or adding content.
                                          So the TGP's that use spiders to list grab galleries automatically from other TGPs are safe? How do the feds know which sites use spiders and which don't? Just put text at your tgp's disclaimer saying "This site is 100% automated, please contact us if you wish to stop us from indexing your website, or if you find content you wish to have removed"
                                          ..and I'm off.

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                                            • jact
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                                              • Sep 2002
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                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by TeenGodFather
                                              So the TGP's that use spiders to list grab galleries automatically from other TGPs are safe? How do the feds know which sites use spiders and which don't? Just put text at your tgp's disclaimer saying "This site is 100% automated, please contact us if you wish to stop us from indexing your website, or if you find content you wish to have removed"
                                              Honestly, I'm not sure how it all works. I'll be having this discussion with our lawyer in a couple of weeks, I'm really very curious what sets a service provider apart.
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                                                • pocketkangaroo
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                                                  • Jan 2005
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                                                  Seriously guys, it has nothing to do with the law here. Google has money, and the government doesn't want to play with them. No matter how you shape the argument, the feds will go after those who can't defend themselves and turn a blind eye to the billionaires.

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                                                    • Empress_JoinRightNow
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                                                      • Aug 2005
                                                      • 1207
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Voodoo
                                                      Does Google have to provide 2257 for Google Images as a secondary producer?
                                                      I guess not...Google as a whole is a search engine...each images has it's own sites...Google's main service is just to search for images...and it doesn't mean that they have responsibility over those stuff being searched by the surfers...

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                                                        • IllTestYourGirls
                                                          Ah My Balls
                                                          • Feb 2007
                                                          • 14311
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Empress_JoinRightNow
                                                          I guess not...Google as a whole is a search engine...each images has it's own sites...Google's main service is just to search for images...and it doesn't mean that they have responsibility over those stuff being searched by the surfers...
                                                          I search for images too through my sponsors, so its ok for a computer to search but not a human? that doesnt make sense.

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