Well he's a legend an all. That was created by the publicity machine when he became an actor. Of all the fights I have watched so far and they have been plentiful, it is not as easy for a matrial artist to be so dominant in real life, as it is in the movies :winkwink:

and May I say ...Fitty Bruce Lee's

all he needs is 10 seconds.

no doubt, a devastating move :2 cents:

LOL Chuck Norris was world full contact champion for 7 years in a row. What championship did Bruce Lee ever win? I'll tell you... none.

Bruce Lee never fought anybody of any significance. His most famous fight was agains a Chinatown kung fu sifu named Wong Jack Man. That fight was famous because it showed him how pathetic his fighting skill was and made him develop Jeet Kune Do.

Bruce Lee was famous for his acting and for his martial arts theory. He was not famous for fighting anyone, because he never fought anyone. In a real fight Chuck Norris would've mopped the floor with Bruce Lee. If Bruce Lee was around today he would never stand a chance in the UFC.

Bruce Lee was only 5'7'' and 130 lbs. He had speed and was a pioneer when it came to martial arts theory, but he never proved that he could take a punch. End of story.

To be a real fighter you have to be able to take the shots, not just dish them out. Bruce never proved that he could take them... and why should he? He created a multi-million dollar myth. Why fuck with that by actually fighting someone? Much better to do it in front of the camera where you can redo the fight if it doesn't look perfect.

Thats interesting... just seen crow training with gsp on monday :)

did not know he was so popular

Thanks for that, most people belive the Hype :winkwink:

The Crow had a run in the UFC for a little bit. But he got his ass handed to him by Franklin, and then another loss to Swick.

I would say that he would have kicked ass. Mostly because if he was going to do something like that, he would have studies up on what works, and adapted and trained his skills to be the best that he possibly could.

you people crack me up. right... he would have done that. exactly like everyone else does. and....?

holy shit. he was a movie star, not Jesus Christ.

I don't know, but it would be fun to watch

rickson by armbar

Rickson by water bottle. :)

good answer.

firsty mate id like to point out just how wrong you are, bruce lee was an actor way befor he started to learn martial arts. if you knew anything about bruce lee you would know he starred in his first film at the age of 6.

Now i think he would fair very well in the octagon and i would be suprised if he didnt win. Bruce Lee is concidered a master not just by the likes of us but also by other martial arts masters arond the world. He created and pionered his own style of martial arts, and his speed power and technique is unrivallrd by most.

To the people who think he was only an actor i say this, look at the speed he has when acting concidering that he fights on film were not spead up just very well choregraphed, if he can move that fast in camera i bet in a real fight he would be even faster.

Actually, rumour had it that he went too fast, and had to slow his punches down to be caught on camera properly.
If that was him slowing it down, I could only imagine what it would be like at full speed.

Was Bruce Lee really that quick or is that just legend/hype, and many in the top tier nowadays could strike just as fast/hard?

he one guy like millions of others that studied martial arts most of his life. unlike most of them, he became a movie star in a time when it was all really something new and unique.

fighting is chaotic and messy unlike on film where you get 100 perfectly choreographed takes to shoot a cool scene. was he a good fighter? the world will never know... he only fought i think once in public and won and once in private and got destroyed.

i just personally think its silly to compare Bruce Lee to any other MMA fighter that is training 6 days a week and say "Bruce Lee could defeat them" - what would that assumption be based on? Watching Enter the Dragon? Bruce Lee was famous for a lot of reasons... none of those reasons include being a great fighter.

Bruce Lee would have destroyed every fighter in UFC. Easily.

checkout his bio...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Lee

interesting read.

Panthaklon is a very nice sport but any of these top fighter would be in big trouble against any type of real MASTER ...

BTW Bruce Lee = jet kun do master

one more thing...

isn't the ufc tap out or black out? aren't most of bruce lee's moves deadly? what if he kills someone in the octagon? who will be responsible? would he even be allowed to fight in the ufc if he was still alive today?

1. You mean Pankration
2. Any time you want to bring up a "Master", I'll bring the MMA fighter

OMG.

You are kidding right?

Bruce Lee was probably one of the hardest working athletes of all time. The guy wouldn't stop finding and developing speed and strength in new muscles that us mortals would never know we had. Pound for pound and adapting his technique and style to match the modern competition my amateur opinion is he would be one of the best in the octagon. The mans work ethic was unmatched, to the point it killed him.

You take him at 130lbs and 5'7 and match him with his old style to todays mma athletes weighing in at 250lbs he'd most likely get his ass handed to him. But he'd make those guys pay dearly for their win. I'd take a hit from the Gracies or Shamrocks before Id ever let Bruce at me. I wouldn't doubt he could stab a finger through flesh.

Okay. After this one, I'm officially out of this thread before my IQ drops down to double digits.

Bruce Lee's feats

* Bruce was able to do one-finger push ups from a standing start, as confirmed by Jon T. Benn.
* Bruce could strike a target from 3 feet away in five hundredths of a second. (Glover[16])
* Bruce did one-hand push ups using only 2 fingers.[17]
* Bruce was able to break a 150lb bag with a sidekick. (Coburn[16])
* Bruce would ride the equivalent of 10 miles in 45 minutes on a stationary bicycle, sweating profusely afterwards. (Uhera[16])
* Bruce was able to punch someone with full force with his flattened palm less then an inch away from their chest.[citation needed]
* Bruce was able to hold a 125-pound barbell at arms length in front of him (with elbows locked) for 20 seconds.[19]

Bruce Lee' tears cure cancer. Too bad he has never cried.


Bruce Lee played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.


Some people wear Superman Pajamas to bed.
Superman wears Bruce Lee Pajamas to bed.


Bruce Lee doesn't read books. He stares them down until he gets the information he wants.


Bruce Lee can win a game of Connect Four in only three moves.


Bruce Lee does not sleep. He waits.


There is no such thing as a lesbian, just a woman who has never met Bruce Lee.


Bruce Lee once ate an entire bottle of sleeping pills. They made him blink.


Bruce Lee doesn't break wind. He destroys it.


Bruce Lee's calendar goes straight from March 31st to April 2nd; no one fools Bruce Lee.


Bruce Lee sleeps with a pillow under his gun.


The Boogeyman checks his closet for Bruce Lee every night.

come on, these guys are hilarious!

this thread is starting to look like one of those chuck norris quote websites.

I don't normally comment on non adult subject but here it goes!

BRUCE LEE WEIGHED 87lbs (lol) soaking wet. Who would be in his weight class. Only him I think. Therefore he would definately dominate his weightclass.

Bruce Lee's reflexes, speed, and power were legendary. He could make use of almost any common object as a lethal weapon. Once he was captured by some Honk Kong gangsters who were so in awe of his abilities that they tied him with heavy chains to a chair. With only 1 inch of play available to his hands, in one motion he ripped the nail holding the leg to the chair out and flicked it through the forehead of the head gangster, spattering his skull and brains in little chunks all over the room.

That is where the expression "death nail" came from.

Bruce was faster and smarter! :thumbsup

Once, while filming in China, Bruce carved an entire Buddha, 80 feet tall X 80 feet wide, in a mountainside just by urinating.

Your right thats what I mean...

But dude real masters ...not self proclaim master... I did judo for almost 20 years and I ad the chance to met real masters and believe me its somrthing else...

do the math now.

bruce > chuck in RotD and chuck > MMA x 10 it is not just conventional wisodom that bruce = invincible its a mathematical fact.

His first punch or kick would break your nose, ribs, knees, forehead, arms, legs, etc, etc.
And Bruce would tell you where and when beforehand and theres nothing you or anyone else could do.

Ask Jean-Claude Van Damme what happens when an actor believes his own hype...

I'm starting to think the real hype is with these MMA backers. I know little about the sport or martial arts, but I do know something about spotting hype that will end badly like in a bull stock market when your taxi driver starts handing out stock tips or in this instance when people so easily cut down a legend like Bruce Lee in the name of MMA.

It looks like only true believers in the MMA cause are allowed to pontificate on this topic as you must be delusional for having a contrary thought like maybe Lee can hold his own. I have seen this kind of thing before.

Well, we just saw in the last year how well past "unbeatable" champions did.
One former champ owned by a current one, and he turned around and lost to GSP, Franklin owned in the first round, Arlovski owned, et et.

As far as speed, his weight class would put him in with lil evil and the like, and those guys are fast. And bruce couldn't exactly take a punch off camera either, these guys can.

All this of course assumes that he knew more than one discipline, cause the guys that don't rarely make it through the first round without dropping blood on the mat.

yeah, you should be allowed to spout completely ridiculous bullshit on a topic you know absolutely nothing about without being called on it. What's wrong with us MMA freaks?

my vote is Bruce Lee would take names and chew bubble gum

I say he'd win some and lose some.

Bruce Lee studied many different styles of martial arts and incorporated what he found worked best for him from each style. Essentially, this is the definition of MMA. There's no reason to doubt that if he were training today, he would have incorporated much of the newer styles in to his arsenal.

Bruce Lee also had amazing reflexes and conditioning. There's no reason to think that if he fought today he wouldn't be very good if not completely dominate in his weight class.

All of this being said, there's a reason that weight classes are used. I don't think we'd be seeing him as a heavy weight champion.

More power to ya. I think it's awesome to see such passion and see the sport flourish. I just don't get all the cockiness like Bruce Lee wouldn't last a round... Burning down a recognized legend like that just reaks of something being a fad fueled by hype and drinking the special kool aid.

The special kool-aid is called Gracie Jiu-Jitsu in actual fights against other martial arts. It has more to do with the Manhattan Project than Jim Jones, but if you're too dense to comprehend then enjoy your ninja-ness.

You sound very certain in your beliefs. Maybe, just maybe they are even indisputable truths, but I guess it wouldn't matter either way to a true believer like you seem to be on this matter.

Very true great post

shit... came back to see if the conversation had moved on to "who would win in a fight Batman... or Superman and why" - i am a little amazed that it didn't

Holy crap have you seen the early UFCs? This argument has been answered hundreds of times. Bruce Lee created Jeet Kune Do and you can see various examples of these guys getting their asses handed to them on You Tube (https://youtube.com/watch?v=Mjux_y5Xp64 is one).

A puncher always has a punchers chance but with no practical take down defense he's in trouble. Your comment applies more to guys like Chuck Lidell who are great strikers and have great ground defense too.

BTW - this is coming from a guy who has trained stand up for almost 14 years now and done grappling for just one and a half. I wish what you said was true because I'm a way better striker but it just isn't.

There's a great point. If he was alive today he'd be learning an incorporating many more things into his own art too. Comparing any traditional art to what's evolved in real competition the last 15 yrs just isn't realistic.