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IllTestYourGirls 04-11-2007 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin (Post 12239438)
5-7 off is a losing hand 90% of the time against pocket AA even if you hit the 5 on the flop you DONKS!

implied odds donk :) they KNOW you will give them all your money if you have AA. So say you have $100 bucks and you raise 3x big blind, so $3 bucks. He calls a $3 dollar raise KNOWING you have AA. He gets a monster flop, like 2 pair, set, or full house. He KNOWS you are going to give him all of your $100. So he spent $3 to see if he can hit. 3% of what he knows he can get from you if he hits. Those are odds that that give him the right to call.

So you if you do not want anyone to call you should be betting 10x big blind. You will get everyone to fold and wont lose your money, but then again you will only win the blinds.

mattz 04-11-2007 06:54 PM

Why would they rig it? They make all their money off the rake, it would be pointless for them to rig it, that wouldn't make them anymore money

mattz 04-11-2007 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MissEve (Post 12239159)
This basically sums up my strategy for ring games. I love nothing more than calling 4 or 5 x the BB with small to medium suited connectors when 3+ players call ahead of me and I know they won't lay down their pocket pairs no matter what the board is.

i love playing against people that play like you, always come out winning a lot

IllTestYourGirls 04-11-2007 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MissEve (Post 12239159)
This basically sums up my strategy for ring games. I love nothing more than calling 4 or 5 x the BB with small to medium suited connectors when 3+ players call ahead of me and I know they won't lay down their pocket pairs no matter what the board is.

bingo bango bongo! a dude flat calls 3x blind, flop comes 775 he leads out, you raise, he goes all in....what the hell do you think he has? IF you are LUCKY he has an under pair to your AA...if not you are looking for a 2 outter

IllTestYourGirls 04-11-2007 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mattz (Post 12239573)
i love playing against people that play like you, always come out winning a lot

You are right though, you can make a lot of money off people who play like this, but these people dont make their money off you, they make it off people who play another style. That is the killer thing about poker there is no RIGHT way to play. I dont play the low cons. I am a really tight player and make a lot of money on those who donk their money playing cons. I win a lot of small pots, not a few large ones.

Martin 04-11-2007 07:51 PM

When he called my all in he had a pair of 5 on the flop. The turn came another 5 and the river was a 7. He didnt need the 7 but still if you call a raise, the flop comes and you have a pair of 5 the raiser pushes all in you have to put him on a big pocket pair and know you're behind in the hand. He didnt flop the boat dude, I got sucked out BIG TIME!

IllTestYourGirls 04-11-2007 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin (Post 12239825)
When he called my all in he had a pair of 5 on the flop. The turn came another 5 and the river was a 7. He didnt need the 7 but still if you call a raise, the flop comes and you have a pair of 5 the raiser pushes all in you have to put him on a big pocket pair and know you're behind in the hand. He didnt flop the boat dude, I got sucked out BIG TIME!

life happens

Martin 04-11-2007 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mattz (Post 12239569)
Why would they rig it? They make all their money off the rake, it would be pointless for them to rig it, that wouldn't make them anymore money

What you don't think they load the tables with their own players?

I don't care what you think, I think the tables are tilted to certain players. There is no way that online poker is on the up in up in my mind.:2 cents:

Martin 04-11-2007 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 12239834)
life happens

Dude just fuck off would ya. Jesus.

IllTestYourGirls 04-11-2007 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin (Post 12239849)
Dude just fuck off would ya. Jesus.

let me guess, you were not playing with 5% of you bankroll and that is why you are bitching? Only people who bitch about a bad beat are those who are playing far beyond what they should be playing.

BusterBunny 04-11-2007 08:32 PM

50....i'm all in:pimp

Daruma 04-11-2007 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin (Post 12239838)
What you don't think they load the tables with their own players?

I don't care what you think, I think the tables are tilted to certain players. There is no way that online poker is on the up in up in my mind.:2 cents:

in all of this discussion - I've missed what room your playing in exactly.. party, pokeroom, fulltilt, ??? which one?

Platinumpimp 04-11-2007 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 12239978)
let me guess, you were not playing with 5% of you bankroll and that is why you are bitching? Only people who bitch about a bad beat are those who are playing far beyond what they should be playing.

Well aren't you pre judging him.

Maybe he is just pissed! But Martin if you think its rigged, like me, just leave online poker behind you, and never look back.

polle54 04-12-2007 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin (Post 12234272)
Believe it.. In real poker games, I win more then your average player. Im not saying Im great but I think I'm better then average but online I get sucked out by the worst fucking hands. Can't win. Don't play real money online. Im convinced is rigged, either by the site itself or you're playing the same guy in a 9 player sit and go. I learned my lesson. ITS A RIP OFF!:321GFY

Well I played 100.000 hands the last 3 months and I can tell you this: It is not rigged, it's only idiots like you thinking that statistics will be normal after 5k hands. The world doesn't work that way.

The suckouts and the win rate is as it should be after a 100k hands.

I am so fucking sick and tired hearing people like you babling about bad beats.

You are absolutely clueless.

Sorry mand but I am right and you are wrong.
And I have proof. You didn't even bther to show some PokerTracker stats or anything which proves that you are either a fish or you haven't played enough hands.

I 9 table NL100 at partypoker and have played various other places and I can assure you online poker games is not rigged. In fact a real life game with a poor dealer is far more rigged.

havengr 04-13-2007 11:19 AM

Yeah i had been scamed too..

polle54 04-14-2007 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by havengr (Post 12248184)
Yeah i had been scamed too..

jesus christ so many idiots out there.

DatingGold 04-14-2007 02:25 PM

it is rigged for sure

Randyyy 04-14-2007 02:55 PM

well no worries, cuz online gambling is now illegal in the US

Martin 04-14-2007 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by polle54 (Post 12252946)
jesus christ so many idiots out there.

FTP is just insane too... Every hand is flush, flush, flush, straight, idiots calling you with 2-6 sooooted and hitting flush. Every hand is a moster lol..

IllTestYourGirls 04-14-2007 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Randyyy (Post 12253123)
well no worries, cuz online gambling is now illegal in the US

not true, US banks funding online poker is illegal

rapmaster 04-14-2007 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by hezochiah (Post 12234598)
Basically with onlone poker you can't read the people like you can in rel life so you just have to play the cards. If you don't have a top 3 hand there's no sense staying in the game because they are rigged for action on top of some of the other factors mentioned already.

The hand that made me stop playing for money was when I had pocket Aces and the flop came A-K-K which gave me Aces full of Kings. I bet on the flop and the other guy called. I bet on the turn and the other guy called again. Then when I bet on the river he raised me and I went all in. He called and had pocket Kings which gave him 4 kings and crushed my boat. Now that is a hand I'll never forgett...

No fucking joke here, this is crazy:

I was reading this very thread the other day as I was playing some pokerstars in a pretty big nl game. So turns out the exact same thing happened to me, right as I was reading this thread. I lost $2800 on that one hand. Sick. crazy and sick. lol

some kind of crazy coincidence:mad:

KaliC 04-14-2007 04:53 PM

I think so too, I mean there is law to stop them so why wouldn't they.

IllTestYourGirls 04-14-2007 05:02 PM

Ya I saw a really rigged hand one time.

I think the action went like this. Player 1 raises player 2 re-raises, player 3 was kinda short stacked so they moved all in. Player 1 goes all in, player 2 calls.

Player 1 and 2 both flip over AA
Player 3 flips over QQ.

Someone at the table says to player 3, I folded a Q.

Flop comes, AA still ahead, turn comes, AA still ahead river THE LAST Q IN THE DECK! WTF????

That hand was so freaking rigged its unreal....wait it was REAL and it was LIVE at the Professional Poker Tour.

Martin 04-14-2007 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 12253663)
Ya I saw a really rigged hand one time.

I think the action went like this. Player 1 raises player 2 re-raises, player 3 was kinda short stacked so they moved all in. Player 1 goes all in, player 2 calls.

Player 1 and 2 both flip over AA
Player 3 flips over QQ.

Someone at the table says to player 3, I folded a Q.

Flop comes, AA still ahead, turn comes, AA still ahead river THE LAST Q IN THE DECK! WTF????

That hand was so freaking rigged its unreal....wait it was REAL and it was LIVE at the Professional Poker Tour.

Yeah that happens once in a blue moon, online it happens ALL THE TIME, LOL.

IllTestYourGirls 04-14-2007 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin (Post 12253741)
Yeah that happens once in a blue moon, online it happens ALL THE TIME, LOL.

if it happens all the time on online poker, why not play every draw? You could make a KILLING sucking out by the sounds of it. Really the thinking is flawed that you cant win because its rigged for a suck out. Then play only suck out hands and clean up :2 cents:

Martin 04-14-2007 05:55 PM

Na, done with online, played lastnight and finished second. Won a nice chunk so gonna play live games. Online poker is for suckers. Unless you're real lucky and hit all them suck out hands.

IllTestYourGirls 04-14-2007 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin (Post 12253906)
Na, done with online, played lastnight and finished second. Won a nice chunk so gonna play live games. Online poker is for suckers. Unless you're real lucky and hit all them suck out hands.

I love live poker, but online poker is just easier to get to. I am not a huge baller I play up to 5/10 I make a few 100 to a few 1000 a month on online poker.

I can see why people think its rigged when they get sucked out. But really I make too much to see it. I just tag the donks, add them to my buddy list and look for them and break them. That is why you have to play within your bankroll so you can take those suck outs.


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