Glad to see you are doing well.

Perl Coders?

I guess you're right, sometimes it doesn't seem that long ago.

I remember even back then you were nutty (your online persona) but always knew you had that 'energy or vibe' that you'd do something even if by complete freaking accident -- go go gadet!

I wish you'd sell that shit in pill form. I'd buy a few bottles!!!

Again, congrats on entering a new phase.

I'm actually looking to exit more fully from anything adult related by the end of this year...although will be under a bit diff circumstances than yours.

:pimp

yea Todd, perl coders i think the name was.... He used to be married to Lisa from porn mega bucks, but then fucked her over and got with some other trash in Florida and ended up fucking her over too... the guy had a long list of unhappy customers....

bragging on the internet lol... sad

Yep, I remember all that drama on netpond / oprano..

Lisa is a cool person and of course always liked Bill :)

first it was begging AFF to buy your exit traffic, now spamming a hosting thread with unrelated garbage?

No, you're not hurting at all

because someone is selling something, that means they are hurting?

LOL

we are all in trouble then my friend.

what are hosts then? all bankrupt cause they are all selling servers AND bandwidth!!!

what about paysites, they sell subscriptions, are they hurting too? they are selling subscriptions!! OMG!


some of you peoples logic is amazing.

Well congrats mate, have fun and good luck with the future then

i always liked epiccash :)

one question for you trey, how old are you now?

will be 30 next month!

getting up there... but became a millionaire before 30, so I cant bitch

nice im on my way then, just not really into porn hardcore, mainstream seems to do way better for me. epiccash was my first adult paycheck in 2003

thats what i like to hear!


mainstream is the way togo.. these idiots in this business are foolish and scammers and 0 loyalty and are out only for themselves. besides, if you know how to work it, alot more money to be made in mainstream, no stigma sttached to it and a much much more stable environment.

adult is just a stepping stone for me... cant complain about the doors it opened for me though thats for sure.. it has its perks... just keep your head down and make piles of money and get out...

with all the new laws and .xxx crap they keep throwing out for porn its almost not even worth starting something new unless you already have you hand in some cookie jars (mhh cookies)....

harry flint made some of the aspects of todays porn industry possible but the corporate fatties keep trying to screw everyone over by controlling the uncontrollable

you two should get together and eat a $800 plate of sushi :1orglaugh

haha

he doesnt have $80 in his bank acct, and i know his credit card is maxed out fromlast year cause of the domain issue he had......

poor guy

Grats Trey on your success. Even though I can't stand your board persona and hope (for your own sake) that you are much less of a dick in "real life", I can't deny that all the bitching & trolling has probably paid off for you.

Mainstream is the way to do and any successful porn webmaster should definitely keep doors open, should the business go down the shitter at some point. I did the switch 2 years ago, now I am doing exclusive deals with Vuitton. Can't complain how well it's going.

All that financial success is for not if you can't knock that nagging addiction to prescription pills.

Lol, this thread is funny!

Amen to that...

and i know you are smarter than to think I really act like this offline! haha

ayone who has met me knows i am completely opposite!


its the internet and i can be a big meanie online and not get my ass whooped... plus it helped establish epiccash and get noticed..... anyways, maiunstream is the way to-go thats for sure. use adult like its a red headed step child... take it out when you HAVE to, but lock it back up when you dont want it around! ;)

are you some saint or soemthing?

taking some fucking vicodin isnt going to bankrupt me LOL

you idiots act like i take 10 a day.

I take 2, and i have a sore back from sitting all day.

thats the truth and if you dont beleive it, i could care less.



im putting you on my idiot list, cause every time you post about me or epic its alwas something stupoid and not even valid or very little truth to it. and yo try to spin it in a negative direction. always.

so eat my shit peanuts.

Yeah man, malls make good $. My friends boss pays like 70k in rent a year for a small ass space.

great plan, good luck man

Who said anything about your problem bankrupting you? I just meant that all the wealth in the world means nothing if you don't have your health. If you've got your addiction under control now, then best wishes. So when is the wedding date?

Trey, before you leave, you owe me a watch remember.

He he

;-)

LOL Trey I am a little older, starting a little earlier in adult than you, and of course a little wiser. :winkwink: I make 31 in June, started in 99.


Since some people are getting movtivation from this thread I will add a little of my own advice.

I started off with membership sites than dumped them mainly after having so many problems with 3rd party billers going out of business and having to start over and over from 0 members. Even then I didn't put too much focus on my membership sites because I made a lot more from being an affiliate, and spent a lot less time on the bullshit that comes along with membership sites.

The error I made was as an affiliate I was making a lot of money but I wasn't building value in anything. I generated traffic, sent it to the affiliate company and got paid. done deal. At the end of the year I made lots of money but if i had nothing I could sell, nothing of value.

I figured out a little over a year ago that I need to work on projects that build value while generating traffic and making money. This is what Trey did, he did smart. He made lots of money off of epiccash and built value in a company.

I've invested in offline stuff, done similar deals as Trey. But my biggest mistake, and best piece of advice I could offer someone is to learn how to generate traffic while building value in something. Last year I grossed over 1 million just from clickcash but I own nothing really, and have nothing of value I could sell if I walked away. For 2007 that will be a lot different I finaly wised up.

You're the man now dog.

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hey asshole with all that money that you claim you got, have you thought about taking spelling classes ?
throughout this thread you made spelling mistakes left and right.

congrats ... something positive atleast

hehe i remember him from the old #webmaster chat days, i did banners and shit for perl coders...

I did your first few sites Trey and most of your banners etc, i used to use LTJ or Pennywise as my nick

good to see your are doing well these days :thumbsup

cheers, Matt

hell yea i remember you.... ltj in da hizzouse!

you back in oz? last i remember you were in canada just traveling around the world it seemed like...

you helped me get here i am today thats fo sho!

yeah i travelled canada for a year was great. Been back in Oz since, setting up Pimpin Pays, but still travel alot each year :)

Still cannot drink thou.

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How many costs the oil explorations and the all rental units?

Good luck on getting out..... its liberating!!!!

And if you need a cool locale for your wedding my buddy is waiting for your email he had some open times around the dates you mentioned.

:pimp

Thanks will76,

Im just starting out and not really focussing on adult too much as think there is just too much competiton :) Wish i had been born a few years earlier lol. Now back to trying to get traffic :)

Why are you getting out of the business?