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MaDalton · 04-07-2007, 11:13 AM

my honest opinion:

no one needs any weapons, no individual person, no organization, no country.

if no one had weapons no one would need weapons

that's it

now flame away, you gunlovers

JFK · 04-07-2007, 11:15 AM

I think you should be free to own what ever you want, provided you do not use it to comit a crime

MaDalton · 04-07-2007, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK

I think you should be free to own what ever you want, provided you do not use it to comit a crime

the human mind is weak - alcohol and drugs for example sometimes let you do things you did not intend to do

Lycanthrope · 04-07-2007, 11:22 AM

In a perfect world, you would be absolutely correct.

But...

gangbangjoe · 04-07-2007, 11:23 AM

but you forget: our grandparents could have stopped hitler attacking other countries if they just had weapons

[/irony]

MaDalton · 04-07-2007, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Lycanthrope

In a perfect world, you would be absolutely correct.

But...

yeah, sad, isn't it?

Webby · 04-07-2007, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

my honest opinion:

no one needs any weapons, no individual person, no organization, no country.

if no one had weapons no one would need weapons

that's it

now flame away, you gunlovers

Damn.. that's too contraversial for a US audience

Fat chance of them comprehending your thoughts or having anything constructive to offer - they think a gun is gonna save them from shit

baddog · 04-07-2007, 11:25 AM

Let me know when you come down and maybe we can talk. You are obviously too high now.

ContentSHOOTER · 04-07-2007, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

my honest opinion:

no one needs any weapons, no individual person, no organization, no country.

if no one had weapons no one would need weapons

that's it

now flame away, you gunlovers

Would be a great world to live in if that were possible

Dirty F · 04-07-2007, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Let me know when you come down and maybe we can talk. You are obviously too high now.

Shut the fuck up you uptight white trash redneck in your idiot country.

MaDalton · 04-07-2007, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by gangbangjoe

but you forget: our grandparents could have stopped hitler attacking other countries if they just had weapons

[/irony]

my grandfather was an engineer building tanks, i doubt he would have done anything personally. he was nazi - and even 50 years later he and my grandmother spread nazi bullshit. of course i was disinherited by them for telling them what assholes they are - but that was worth it

baddog · 04-07-2007, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

Shut the fuck up you uptight white trash redneck in your idiot country.

Uptight? You know me so well.

gangbangjoe · 04-07-2007, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

my grandfather was an engineer building tanks, i doubt he would have done anything personally. he was nazi - and even 50 years later he and my grandmother spread nazi bullshit. of course i was disinherited by them for telling them what assholes they are - but that was worth it

i never will denie that there is still a huge number of old/new nazis in germany.

but if baddog would know better about the FACTS like propaganda etc. back then he would not talk like that.

if the dirt is already in your head the broom won't help you shit

az_bobby · 04-07-2007, 11:33 AM

If only we lived in that world. I think that if there were no weapons then the strongest bodied people would rule. Weapons seem to be the equalizer in our conquer driven race. If we weren't such a power hungry violent creature then we wouldnt have any of the issues that are a problem. oh and webby you can go fuck yourself

(from an american)

notabook · 04-07-2007, 12:10 PM

I'm far from being a gun lover but of course weapons are necessary. Human beings are fucked up animals -- you have to be able to protect yourself, this is especially true of those who are physically frail [physical disabilities, or just plain weak]. I support those who wish to own rifles and shotguns for personal use as well as protection. I do not and cannot support those who wish to own handguns. A handgun will never be anything more than a tool to cause harm with.

baddog · 04-07-2007, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by az_bobby

Weapons seem to be the equalizer in our conquer driven race.

WarChild · 04-07-2007, 12:13 PM

I think as a species we need to get back to survival of the fittest. Rampant Liberalism is destroying the human race. I advocate a return to the kill or be killed days.

AaronM · 04-07-2007, 12:16 PM

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baddog · 04-07-2007, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

This thread is NOT approved by TSB.

That clip never fails to crack me up when he lets off that first volley

Fap · 04-07-2007, 12:18 PM

I dont like guns myself but what about hunters? And self defense in the ghetttoooo

Musson · 04-07-2007, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

I advocate a return to the kill or be killed days.

Yeah. You advocate to come back to the time when the weapon was invented for the strongest to survive.

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

no one needs any weapons, no individual person, no organization, no country. if no one had weapons no one would need weapons.

Yua are dreaming of Utopia. It is impossible to have such a world today.

MaDalton · 04-07-2007, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

This thread is NOT approved by TSB.

lol - he's a good example for someone that is not supposed to have gun

aico · 04-07-2007, 12:35 PM

not possible. If you take them all away, someone will always get one and that someone will always be a person who uses it for power.

Darkland · 04-07-2007, 12:37 PM

When will people ever stop blaming weapons for our screwed up world. Guns arent the problem, mental instability is the problem, greed is the problem, the Human Machine is the problem, Human weakness is the problem.

How can you blame an inanimate object that not only has no prejudice but also can not function on its own. Surprise surprise it takes a Human for it to work and it is the Human that decides how the gun will be used, for good or ill. THAT, is the problem of ANY type of weapon. Everyone has knives in there home, those are potential weapons, should we bannish all those?

Should we make ourselves so defensless that our goverment or another country can round us up like cattle and force us to live their way, irradicate freedom? A government or invading country cant be kept in check when there is no threat from it's people or opposition. Because if push came to shove and a law like this WAS introduced the only people to lose their rights and freedom would be the little people, the majority of citizens. What then? The powerfull will have that much easier a time of crushing any would be resistance or opposition of ANY kind.

You cant solve the worlds problems by taking away weapons, it wont work. We can only solve the worlds problems when we can teach the people of the world to THINK differently, to value peace, to irradicagte greed, to lay down predjudice, to release ego, and take responsibilty for our lives. This
world we live in, sad as it may seem, that we have built for ourselves could not and will not function with out weapons.

baddog · 04-07-2007, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

lol - he's a good example for someone that is not supposed to have gun

Always trying to keep the black man down.

ronbotx · 04-07-2007, 01:15 PM

I would suggest the untrained, undisciplined, uninformed, weak-willed, and clueless, anti-gun gun crowd who probably spend most of their life in a drug induced haze should stay away from both guns and sharp objects....

he-fox · 04-07-2007, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkland

When will people ever stop blaming weapons for our screwed up world. Guns arent the problem, mental instability is the problem, greed is the problem, the Human Machine is the problem, Human weakness is the problem.

How can you blame an inanimate object that not only has no prejudice but also can not function on its own. Surprise surprise it takes a Human for it to work and it is the Human that decides how the gun will be used, for good or ill. THAT, is the problem of ANY type of weapon. Everyone has knives in there home, those are potential weapons, should we bannish all those?

Should we make ourselves so defensless that our goverment or another country can round us up like cattle and force us to live their way, irradicate freedom? A government or invading country cant be kept in check when there is no threat from it's people or opposition. Because if push came to shove and a law like this WAS introduced the only people to lose their rights and freedom would be the little people, the majority of citizens. What then? The powerfull will have that much easier a time of crushing any would be resistance or opposition of ANY kind.

You cant solve the worlds problems by taking away weapons, it wont work. We can only solve the worlds problems when we can teach the people of the world to THINK differently, to value peace, to irradicagte greed, to lay down predjudice, to release ego, and take responsibilty for our lives. This
world we live in, sad as it may seem, that we have built for ourselves could not and will not function with out weapons.

do you know that 70% of this world manage to do great without weapons?... the rate crime is way lower in Europe and Asia, where it's illegal to own weapons without special permit.

GotGauge · 04-07-2007, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by he-fox

do you know that 70% of this world manage to do great without weapons?... the rate crime is way lower in Europe and Asia, where it's illegal to own weapons without special permit.

Do you even know how many crimes are comitted without a weapon?

God Created man, Man Created a weapon to survive!

Oh and you little quote above, Yeah crimes WITHOUT GUNS, but they use Knifes, bats, Sticks, Rocks.....

You also would change your mind, when you have to defend you Home, or Family one day!

Peace!

baddog · 04-07-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by he-fox

do you know that 70% of this world manage to do great without weapons?... the rate crime is way lower in Europe and Asia, where it's illegal to own weapons without special permit.

Your location says Costa Rica.

I could have sworn that I read a thread here a few weeks ago where recent transplants to CR wrote of living in compounds with barbed wire topped fences and armed guards, and that you must be careful where you go at night and be sure not to wear anything too nice.

Bossman · 04-07-2007, 01:41 PM

Outlaw guns and only criminals will have them

I wish every country had gun politics like in Switzerland:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_pol...in_Switzerland

7 million people
2-3 million publicly-owned firearms
and almost no violent crime

Darkland · 04-07-2007, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by he-fox

do you know that 70% of this world manage to do great without weapons?... the rate crime is way lower in Europe and Asia, where it's illegal to own weapons without special permit.

Please... That percentage is a pretty conservative one at best. Those countries, most but not all, have their citizens smashed under their thumb of control. They will be the quickest to fall in any form of civil movement or invaded by opposing countries and have zero chance of defending themselves in time of crisis (majority of citizens). Alot of your "70% of this world" was or is a Communist state or of like minded government. So I hardly see how you can count THAT as a good instance of what no weapons will do for you.

sarettah · 04-07-2007, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

my honest opinion:

no one needs any weapons, no individual person, no organization, no country.

if no one had weapons no one would need weapons

that's it

now flame away, you gunlovers

Without weapons how do you kill the animals to eat them? Or are you advocating a full vegitarian eatign regime also? In which case, without weapons, how do keep the big furry animals from eating you? (And yes, I know that right now, in the modern world, there is little chance of being eaten by a bear, but that is because someone killed most of them. You know what they killed them with? Weapons)

Damn near anything that can be picked up can be used as a weapon. As long as there are people that are bigger than me, who can pick up a weapon that is bigger than the one I can pick up, I will keep my guns thank you.

woj · 04-07-2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lycanthrope

In a perfect world, you would be absolutely correct.

But...

sarettah · 04-07-2007, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by notabook

A handgun will never be anything more than a tool to cause harm with.

I will keep my handgun thank you. My rifles do not fit in my back pocket easily.

lacuna · 04-07-2007, 02:20 PM

I shoot competition handgun and centerfire rifle. I'm an attorney, and I also teach Constitutional Law at a local college.

That being said...

All governments should have an inherent fear of their subjects. That's why the Founders put the 2nd Amendment into the Bill of Rights -- to help keep the government honest.

MaDalton · 04-07-2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

Without weapons how do you kill the animals to eat them? Or are you advocating a full vegitarian eatign regime also? In which case, without weapons, how do keep the big furry animals from eating you? (And yes, I know that right now, in the modern world, there is little chance of being eaten by a bear, but that is because someone killed most of them. You know what they killed them with? Weapons)

Damn near anything that can be picked up can be used as a weapon. As long as there are people that are bigger than me, who can pick up a weapon that is bigger than the one I can pick up, I will keep my guns thank you.

lol, you're kind of funny

i just had a steak - it was already dead when i bought it. and guess what? i doubt it was killed with a rifle

and i wonder how humans survived hundreds of thousands of years before guns were invented to protect them from "big furry animals"

hunting is something different btw, although i'm not into it i know that it exists, fulfills certain purposes and i can live with it. but at least over here you have to get a license (which takes a couple of months) before you can start hunting and buy a weapon for that.

AaronM · 04-07-2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Always trying to keep the black man down.

MaDalton is clearly a racist.

baddog · 04-07-2007, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

hunting is something different btw, although i'm not into it i know that it exists, fulfills certain purposes and i can live with it. but at least over here you have to get a license (which takes a couple of months) before you can start hunting and buy a weapon for that.

One of my buddies was telling me about the training he had to go thru just to fish there . . . I think they have really gone over the top with animal rights.

sarettah · 04-07-2007, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i just had a steak - it was already dead when i bought it. and guess what? i doubt it was killed with a rifle

and i wonder how humans survived hundreds of thousands of years before guns were invented to protect them from "big furry animals"

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Originally Posted by Your original post

no one needs any weapons, no individual person, no organization, no country.

if no one had weapons no one would need weapons

You didn't say anything about rifles or firearms in your post. You said weapons.

TeenCat · 04-07-2007, 02:58 PM

if you need a gun, you are affraid of something, so enjoy!

im happy im living in country where gun have not every second idiot

sarettah · 04-07-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat

if you need a gun, you are affraid of something, so enjoy!

im happy im living in country where gun have not every second idiot

Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.

MaDalton · 04-07-2007, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

MaDalton is clearly a racist.

how do you handle that - whites in the front seats, blacks in the back??

or separate busses?

MaDalton · 04-07-2007, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

One of my buddies was telling me about the training he had to go thru just to fish there . . . I think they have really gone over the top with animal rights.

yeah, a driving license is easier to get - it's a little absurd

sarettah · 04-07-2007, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i just had a steak - it was already dead when i bought it. and guess what? i doubt it was killed with a rifle

I almost forgot to come back to this.

Someone/something killed it. Either a human or a machine operated by a human. That human used a weapon of some sort to kill it.

The weapon might have been a knife, a gun, a drug, a sledgehammer, or any of the other assorted methods that they use. (btw, on an aside, you ever seen the way they kill cows? If you did you would probably think a rifle shot to the head was a lot more humane)

Fully opposable thumbs and the weapons (tools, whatever) that they allow us (as in humans) to build and utilize are what have allowed us to dominate the rest of the animal kingdom and have allowed you to have that steak.

Porpoises used to have fully opposable thumbs so there is still hope for humankind

MaDalton · 04-07-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

I almost forgot to come back to this.

Someone/something killed it. Either a human or a machine operated by a human. That human used a weapon of some sort to kill it.

The weapon might have been a knife, a gun, a drug, a sledgehammer, or any of the other assorted methods that they use. (btw, on an aside, you ever seen the way they kill cows? If you did you would probably think a rifle shot to the head was a lot more humane)

Fully opposable thumbs and the weapons (tools, whatever) that they allow us (as in humans) to build and utilize are what have allowed us to dominate the rest of the animal kingdom and have allowed you to have that steak.

Porpoises used to have fully opposable thumbs so there is still hope for humankind

so cause you have a handgun i have a steak... cool - thanks a lot, it was tasty

stickyfingerz · 04-07-2007, 03:29 PM

You can just put pennies in old socks and swing them about. That will stop that 6'5" criminal busting your door down to hurt your family. Im sooo glad I wasnt raised a brainwashed socialist....

Webby · 04-07-2007, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Your location says Costa Rica.

I could have sworn that I read a thread here a few weeks ago where recent transplants to CR wrote of living in compounds with barbed wire topped fences and armed guards, and that you must be careful where you go at night and be sure not to wear anything too nice.

Like anywhere else, there is an element of truth in that baddog - any major city has it's problems.

The flipside is what ya read is not always the truth. I was told the same thing and was paranoid for the first six months here till realizing it was mainly bullshit. There is also a tendency for "gringos" to compound themselves in - that's their problem.

Other aspect are the North American tourists cluttering the place up - it's hard not to burst out laughing when you hear them explain to others (like they are qualified to talk!) how it's a dangerous place and you can get mugged etc

Was chatting to the OIJ (the investigative or "real" police) director, (sinced moved on) here a year or so ago and she was moaning about the "vast" crime rate. Asked her what her problem mainly was? She comes back with - "we have almost 600 credit card frauds on file..." Dammit girl - you think you have problems?? 600 card frauds is *nothing* in comparison to the population - try visiting "civilized world" and you'll have more than 600 poxy credit card frauds

Perceptions can be misleading - tho there is a predominance of minor theft, that is on the high side, - but not so much serious crime. Guns are not part of the issue and the govt is destroying existing guns (even some of their own) and limiting importation.

sarettah · 04-07-2007, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

so cause you have a handgun i have a steak... cool - thanks a lot, it was tasty

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The video shows fallen cows being trampled and dragged, others are tortured with electric prods. One cow has fallen and workers stick an electric prod on its head, then place the prod down its mouth. Still other cows are hung on chains, fully conscious, blinking and kicking. The worker who shot the tape said one cow was already at a station where legs are removed. ?It would be horrible if someone were to cut off your leg without anesthesia.??

According to Steve Cockerham, a USDA inspector at Nebraska slaughterhouses, and former USDA veterinarian Lester Friedlander, some U.S. slaughterhouses routinely skin live cattle, immerse squealing pigs in scalding water, and abuse still-conscious animals in other ways to keep production lines moving quickly.

Cockerham said that he often saw plant workers cut the feet, ears, and udders off cattle that were conscious on the production line after stun guns failed to work properly. "They were still blinking and moving. It's a sickening thing to see," he said.

It takes 25 minutes to turn a live steer into steak at the modern slaughterhouse where Ramon Moreno works. For 20 years, his post was ?second-legger,? a job that entails cutting hocks off carcasses as they whirl past at a rate of 309 an hour. The cattle were supposed to be dead before they got to Moreno. But too often they weren?t.

?They blink. They make noises,? he said softly. ?The head moves, the eyes are wide and looking around.?

Still Moreno would cut. On bad days, he says, dozens of animals reached his station clearly alive and conscious. Some would survive as far as the tail cutter, the belly ripper, the hide puller.

?They die,? said Moreno, ?piece by piece.?

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Common mammal stunning methods:

Captive bolt stunning ? A ?pistol? is set against the animal?s head and a metal rod is thrust into the brain.Shooting a struggling animal is difficult, and the rod often misses its mark.16

Electric stunning ? Current produces a grand mal seizure; then the throat is cut. According to industry consultant Temple Grandin, PhD, ?Insufficient amperage can cause an animal to be paralyzed without losing sensibility.?17

Ritual slaughter ? Animals are fully conscious when their carotid arteries are cut. This is supposed to cause unconsciousness within seconds, but because of blood flow through the vertebral arteries in the back of the neck, some animals can remain conscious as they bleed for up to a minute.18 Additionally, Temple Grandin, PhD notes ?Unfortunately, there are some plants which use cruel methods of restraint such as hanging live animals upside down.?19 This can cause broken bones as the heavy animal hangs by a chain attached to one leg.

Enjoy

Webby · 04-07-2007, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

You can just put pennies in old socks and swing them about. That will stop that 6'5" criminal busting your door down to hurt your family. Im sooo glad I wasnt raised a brainwashed socialist....

Some folks don't even need that old sock Sticky

Can think of a charming lady who is a US govt officer who specializes in broken jaw and collar bones

(It's getting to be a nasty habit!! *lol*) That's irrespective of the size of her assailant and that she "packs" a weapon or two.

MaDalton · 04-07-2007, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

You can just put pennies in old socks and swing them about. That will stop that 6'5" criminal busting your door down to hurt your family. Im sooo glad I wasnt raised a brainwashed socialist....

lol - you really believe that and call others brainwashed.

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04-07-2007, 12:37 PM	#24
Darkland Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,488	When will people ever stop blaming weapons for our screwed up world. Guns arent the problem, mental instability is the problem, greed is the problem, the Human Machine is the problem, Human weakness is the problem. How can you blame an inanimate object that not only has no prejudice but also can not function on its own. Surprise surprise it takes a Human for it to work and it is the Human that decides how the gun will be used, for good or ill. THAT, is the problem of ANY type of weapon. Everyone has knives in there home, those are potential weapons, should we bannish all those? Should we make ourselves so defensless that our goverment or another country can round us up like cattle and force us to live their way, irradicate freedom? A government or invading country cant be kept in check when there is no threat from it's people or opposition. Because if push came to shove and a law like this WAS introduced the only people to lose their rights and freedom would be the little people, the majority of citizens. What then? The powerfull will have that much easier a time of crushing any would be resistance or opposition of ANY kind. You cant solve the worlds problems by taking away weapons, it wont work. We can only solve the worlds problems when we can teach the people of the world to THINK differently, to value peace, to irradicagte greed, to lay down predjudice, to release ego, and take responsibilty for our lives. This world we live in, sad as it may seem, that we have built for ourselves could not and will not function with out weapons. __________________ "The towers are gone now, reduced to bloody rubble, along with all hopes for Peace in Our Time, in the United States or any other country. Make no mistake about it: We are At War now -- with somebody -- and we will stay At War with that mysterious Enemy for the rest of our lives." H.S.T. 09/12/01

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Bossman Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: EU Posts: 1,263	Outlaw guns and only criminals will have them I wish every country had gun politics like in Switzerland: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_pol...in_Switzerland 7 million people 2-3 million publicly-owned firearms and almost no violent crime __________________ Live Sex Buying membership sites E-mail: support AT epcrew.com Last edited by Bossman; 04-07-2007 at 01:43 PM..

04-07-2007, 02:20 PM	#35
lacuna Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,950	I shoot competition handgun and centerfire rifle. I'm an attorney, and I also teach Constitutional Law at a local college. That being said... All governments should have an inherent fear of their subjects. That's why the Founders put the 2nd Amendment into the Bill of Rights -- to help keep the government honest. __________________ 2257 Third-Party Custodian of Records Services Designed by an attorney to be DOJ compliant Only $1 per record

04-07-2007, 02:58 PM	#40
TeenCat Too lazy to set a koala Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CZ/EU forever! Posts: 16,139	if you need a gun, you are affraid of something, so enjoy! im happy im living in country where gun have not every second idiot __________________ 6bot / Coming again very soon! Svit Zlin Radio 24/7!

04-07-2007, 03:29 PM	#46
stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,983	You can just put pennies in old socks and swing them about. That will stop that 6'5" criminal busting your door down to hurt your family. Im sooo glad I wasnt raised a brainwashed socialist....