As much as Lars seems nice enough in person, I can't help but feel that he is measuring everyone to see exactly how much he can make off their backs at all times.

It is a good business trait, but it is a little bit creepy in person.

LOL out bid me. so that is what the bullshit is today. yesterday it was " personal". couple days ago it was because I am a sig whore just looking to hate on him. last week it was because i like clickcash so I was trying to hurt him. two weeks ago it was because clickcash paid me to do it. What will the reason be tomorrow ? he looked at me funny ?

Get out of here..... lol good one.

personally, i dont know him.

:1orglaugh I guess you missed the post here made here saying they stopped because it wasn't profitable anymore.


greater good.


I have more respect for pimpdog than lars. I don't care how cool some of you think he is. he supported shit that stole from people and shit on everyone here. At least pimpdog doesn't steal from people ( that I am aware of at least.)

This thread tought me one thing, my company can steal from all of you, but as long as kiss a little ass, buy drinks I will be A'ok.

it's like the sheep and the wolf cartoon, wolf steals the sheep from 9 to 5 at 5:01 when he is " off of work", they hang out and are best buds. It's just business nothing personal.... you people are too much.

Again you avoid the question by not giving a direct answer... Yes or no...

I have asked you several times...

It is a known fact that before this started clickcash took zango traffic...

So was your traffic some of that zango traffic or not?


There is no other good reason why you have went out of your way to harrass this man about the shit... :2 cents:


There very first website that ever infected my computer was ifriends, the very first popup I ever got was ifriends... Years ago!

But now that you started this campaign against there competitor they have cleaned things up a little bit...


I have a feeling you will get sued before long!

sued for what? They were stealing traffic from there affiliates, other programs afilliates. If it wasn't for will76 this would of never been brought into the spot light. Then on top of that they lied right to everyone's face. First they say they had to do it to protect there interest. Now they say they quit it because it was not profitable. Jesus christ you people are either fucking stupid or some
money hungry ass kissers.

You got guys like sleazy and xxxjay who i assume do very well with aff . They had there chance to make a stand against this since this all about money. But
what did they do? Nothing from what i see. Sometimes i think this issue over and i say to myself lars played his cards right. Here he is and his company are
screwing people and the same people he is screwing is praising him and still sending traffic after jacking there traffic for how long? I at least hope they got some compensation with back room deals for there traffic that got jacked.




Industry leaders my ass. Nice message you folks are sending out to webmasters. Hey we pay you good but we gonna fuck you a little. I understand folks got bills, mortages and other things to pay. But to come on these boards and defend them just shows what a sad sad bunch we have in are community

But to answer your question do i like lars personally i cant say never met him. You can tell alot about a person by there biz ethics so with that being said i dont care to meet him so i have to say no i dont like him.

Harrassment minimum... And I am sure if the post where gone threw with a fine tooth comb he could throw libel in there also...




Personally, I am against badware..

I do not promote any dating sites or cam sites because of it..



And there is no ass kissing going on here.. People where arguing about this topic so I made a poll to find out the facts, that simple...

As far as Will is concerned, he has never directly answered my question, ever.. And I will add I have no problems with the guy I just think he has other motives besides the ones he is sharing with us :upsidedow

I have known Lars for nearly a decade, he's taught me more about this business then I could ever remember, so yes, I like Lars.

Let the hate begin.

Jon the ass kissing comment was not aimed at you but in general. Yes will did have a motive. He wanted to know why aff was poping up over click cashes site. Go back and read all will's post and the thread were he said he admired lars a few months before the zango issue came to light. Lars has been trying to get will's traffic for the last 2 years.

Now if this would of been anyone else except a few other people then lars they would of been fed to the lions. But as you know, i know and lars knows he dont give to shits about the little guy who bust his ass working 12-14 a day that sends little traffic. You know kinda like when he was a programmer making what 9$ a hour. As long as his whales are happy he cant give a rats ass what folks think.

Where have you asked me this before ? this is the first I am hearing your diarrhea of the mouth.

lets see if this clear enough for you:

I never bid on any zango traffic muchless did i get outbid by Lars or anyone else for that matter.

was that clear enough for you ? or do i need to use bigger font ?

harrass this man? lol you funny. pathetic, but funny.

buster is male and has a 50 inch cock:pimp

Thanks :thumbsup





As far as his motives go.. I remember both... But what I do not understand is after he brung it to EVERYONES attention has he not quit... And also why has he not giving me a direct Yes or No answer... Logic tells me there is something else there that he is not telling us...

Where was he with the .xxx fight? We coulda used him in that fight :2 cents:

Why does he not go after other companies using badware to steal our traffic?

get your comb out and I wish you luck with that one.


yeah I am sure starting a thread " do you personally like Lars" on GFY will get you all the " facts " you need... moron.

see a couple posts up.

You will get over it. you might not like the way I handle my business on GFY, but from what I am learning here today is that my business and me and two totally different things. So my business me, says eat a dick and fuck off you worthless little prick who can't design worth a shit no one cares what you think. But my " non business, personal " me says, Jon you a cool dude, i will buy you drinks at the next show. So I am sure we still can be friends and I am still top notch, you just don;t like the way I handle my business, you prick <- that was my business me talking :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

For one, I asked you about a week ago... And please do not get nasty with me, there is no reason for it, I asked you a very legit question...




Thanks for finally answering :thumbsup

Again, no need to get nasty with me and call me out of my name.. I have not done that to you...

And btw, I am the owner, not the designer.. And our clients love our work and that is all that matters :pimp

Thanks for clearing that up :thumbsup

I wouldn't hate you for who you like and dislike. I wouldn't care if you call me a hahahahahaha, say I have a small dick, my wife is ugly. Who cares about all that shit. I don't care if you worship hitler, sacrafice lambs, whatever.

If homegrownvideo steals from me and you own the company, acknowledge it, and support it, than I will hate you, and not just your company.

IMO, for the 10 th time. You steal from my business, you taking money out of my pocket. To me that is as personal as it gets. I don't care if you are sister theresa, if you steal from me I am not going to say " well while I don't agree with your business practices of stealing, I still will like you as a person." fuck that, you the fucking person, made the decission for your company to steal from.

can you link to where you asked ? if you did it is possible I did not see it. Did you know I was out of town from wed - sunday night. I could have missed it, if you posted it at all.

Will76 is my business. Will is me, If Will76 gets too nasty I know you wont hold it against me. we still cool bro!

I had the pleasure of meeting Lars at the MoviePost Dinner.

He was very easy going and great to chat with.

I vote YES

until I can clone about 10 of me there is only so many hours in the day. Sorry I can't do it all.

BTW, I sent in about 20 emails to ICANN in opposition to .xxx and posted in more than a few threads here about it. Also Lawerly wasn't here calling us all sheep, and laughing in our faces. I can assure you if he was I would have posted more on the issue.

You did see it and didn't give me a solid answer.. We went round that day about it and in the end I had the last word with out an answer...

https://gfy.com/12144702-post70.html

https://gfy.com/12145138-post77.html

https://gfy.com/12145153-post78.html

He bought me drinks, I vote YES too LOL

Bleh, I voted. This is becoming a dead horse...

In all honesty, .xxx woulda hurt us more then zango can anyday of the week...

Badware and popups have always been a part of this business, it is a minor inconvenience compare to the filtering powers that .xxx would have given people...

People with badware on there pc's are mostly broke people that can't afford the software to keep it off.. How are they gonna buy porn?

and i guess you missed my reply:

didn't realize that wasn't a solid enough answer for you. I went out of two 2 days later as well.

That is my whole point, I do not understand why Will wants to continue to beat it... We all have been informed of the matter.. We all know our choices...


Why Will don't you carry your fight to the next person that is stealing our traffic and bring that to our attention...?

We all know about this one now, good job, thanks for informing us all... :2 cents:

since you think starting polls on GFY = facts you will appreciate this:

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/713753-issue-poses-biggest-threat-adult-industry.html

2x more people thought spyware is a bigger threat to adult than xxx was. this was before the rulling.

Don't try to put " badware and popups" in the same sentence.

Jesus christ, I am done replying to you. You don't have a fucking clue what you talking about:

You answered a question with a question... Not very solid of a answer.. All logic says when people do that they are hidding something...

And bringing it out in the open makes since.. It is just like the guy who gets his women tooken and then kills here with the attitude "If I can't have her, noone can" or the kid who breaks a toy when it is his turn to pass it to the next one "If I can't play with it, noone can"

See where I am coming from?

I asked you valid and very legit questions and untill now got the run around and not a solid answer... :2 cents:

I remember that poll... It is my opinion that .xxx was a bigger threat... Never said it was anyone elses :2 cents:

Good night... I am outie :thumbsup

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Lars Urlich?

Will... everyone has already seen your arguements, many people agreed with your overall message, but you are taking things to an extreme personal level. You are working very hard in this thread to convince people that they shouldn't like Lars based on what.. a business decision people didn't like? Those kinds of things aren't going to change people's opinions on someone they have known and done business with for years... especially in favor of someone who has turned what was once a good point into a dead horse and beat it into a messy pulp of hamburger.

Lars is the orginal snappy dresser and always a pleasure to chat with. Does my Drama Score Card need updating?

who is that man???

I don't care if people like Lars or not. I guess you missed my reply to the other homegrown person posting in this thread a few posts up. I don't care who you like or dislike.

I am stating my disbelief of the " well i do not agree with the person's business decissions, but he is still a great guy" comments some people are making. That doesn't apply to just Lars but anyone whos company does something underhanded.

My business Will76, has a business practice of beating a dead horse. It is just my business like it is the business of some others to steal. Personally I am a really nice guy and I wouldn't even slap a horse muchless beat it, so I am sure when i see some of you in the future you wont hold my business practices of beating a dead horse against me and we will be cool and good friends... You will see this when we meet "for reals" and i laugh and am nice to you and we buy each other drinks, I am personally nothing like my business practices :1orglaugh :upsidedow

Lars is cool peeps:thumbsup

Jon its very simple here is Aff opening statement about zango made on 10-13-2006

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/666036-adult-friend-finder-position-statement.html

"AdultFriendFinder from time to time as a small part of its advertising budget places ad buys with companies which some people might call ?adware?. Adware is software that is installed on a user?s computer with notice and consent by the user. In some instances such adware will use contextual ads - for example it may scan web pages for references to certain keywords and then pop up relevant ads from its advertisers. Typical keywords for AdultFriendFinder may include ?dating? and ?friend?. One of the motivating factors in AdultFriendFinder placing such adware ads is to effectively compete in the online dating marketplace - namely if AdultFriendFinder does not place such ads our competitors will make deals with the adware companies to place such ads to our detriment.

It has come to our attention that some affiliates are unhappy about some uncommon and unintended side effects of adware advertising ? in some instances the adware will scan a web page and pop up an ?in context? AdultFriendFinder ad in a browser window next to an affiliate?s ad for AdultFriendFinder in another browser window. This scenario certainly makes us uncomfortable and creates a catch-22 for us ? if we stop buying the contextual adware ads our competitors? sites will pop up and we may lose sales and if we keep buying adware ads we may find from time to time our ads will pop up near our affiliate?s ads for our sites.

While it is perfectly legal for us to place ads with internet software providers like adware companies, specialized browser providers, and search engines that place our ads near our affiliates ads (for example this happens often with keyword buys on search engines) this notion of the adware ad ?collisions? that has recently been raised does make us feel somewhat uncomfortable ? in other words we find ourselves sympathetic with those who have not been happy with this bizarre result.

So we decided to look further into the adware issue. While we are at least partially at the mercy of the programmatic techniques of the given adware companies we are already exploring and experimenting with technology solutions to try to figure out ways to reduce the number of ?adware collisions?. Our primary method of tracking affiliate traffic is not by using cookies (as has been wrongly suggested on some board postings) but rather by coded URLs ? this may have to change. Suffice it to say that for now we appreciate the comments that have been made on the boards to date by our affiliates (yes even the adverse ones) and we will attempt to address this unforeseen consequence of adware ad buys in the near future. If AdultFriendFinder affiliates have any comments or proposed solutions you may e-mail me at lars at legendarylars.com "




Now here is Aff last statement about zango made on 3-29-07

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/719276-adult-friend-finder-drops-zango-advertising.html

"With all the promotion of Zango over the last few months so many new affiliates and ad buyers have signed on to promote and buy ads from Zango, they have driven the price of traffic up so much that it is NO LONGER PROFITABLE for us to continue buying ads from Zango. We have turned off all Zango ad buys as of yesterday, it will take 48 hours for the system to clear all of our ads out. Many of you don?t know but for the last 3 months there has been no Zango pops on any links from affiliates to our sites."



Now let me go find the post he made 6 months ago were he said THEY WERE LOOSING MONEY BY USING ZANGO . All they had to do is say hey we seen affiliates had concerns and we dropped zango. But no they now come and say we dropped zango 6 MONTHS LATER because its not profitable and we are all haters now. There is no way in hell a issue like this is just gonna disappear. :winkwink:

I love U all

How about when they finance sites (affiliate bit torrent sites)that give away my content? What do I do then? Its fucking the industry your in plain and simple.