869 palestinian children killed and israel

[SmokeyTheBear]

killed all of them..



*stats compiled since sept 2000

p.s. this thread in now way represents or assigns blame to either party , i think we can all agree murder is wrong on any side and it sucks to see children killed. This thread was merely a realistic flipside to another thread

[Sly]

This isn't a realistic flipside to another thread because you missed the point of the other thread.

[Lazonby]

Shame those terrorists keep using them as shields, and wtf is up with those parents sending their kids out to throw stones at troops to divert their attention from terrosrists.

[DjSap]

They were potential terrorists, end of discussion.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Sly

This isn't a realistic flipside to another thread because you missed the point of the other thread.

what was the point of the other thread to you ? just curious..

To me it sounded like a tongue in cheeck way of saying " look for once israel isnt to blame" made to downplay the fact the majority of palestinian deaths are caused by israel.

Like i said i wasnt posting any blame. merely pointing out how taking one fact/figure/incedent and trying to parlay that into the entire jew-arab conflict is sort of silly dont you think..

Personally i think they are both somewhat to blame.. anyone/country who cant take ANY critique in regards to its actions , needs to look hard at who the racist's are.

[Vlad]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

killed all of them..



*stats compiled since sept 2000

p.s. this thread in now way represents or assigns blame to either party , i think we can all agree murder is wrong on any side and it sucks to see children killed. This thread was merely a realistic flipside to another thread

[alexg]

It's a terrible world we live in...

I'm sure many of these children wouldn't become terrorists... you know what, even if all of them would, it would be terribly unhuman to murder them...

But they weren't murdered and you know it. 99% of them were killed by mistake. that != murder.

I didn't see the 'other thread' you were talking about, but I'm guessing it's about Israeli victims of terrorism? well, they were killed on purpose, which means they were murdered.

so, this isn't a *realistic flipside*. please don't mistake yourself and others.

[vidvicious]

Children raised on hatred .. Hatred of a people based on religion .. taught that it is better to die for the cause then to protest it.

If you for one second think that none of those cute little children would not chop your head off to get closer to they're maker in the name of J'had .. then your living in a make believe world


Wake up

[Shakula]

Look at this smokey,

George Galloway owning the proisraelian media! HAHAHA speak the truth. See commennts too, everyone agree with G.G.

[martinsc]

Originally Posted by alexg

It's a terrible world we live in...

I'm sure many of these children wouldn't become terrorists... you know what, even if all of them would, it would be terribly unhuman to murder them...

But they weren't murdered and you know it. 99% of them were killed by mistake. that != murder.

I didn't see the 'other thread' you were talking about, but I'm guessing it's about Israeli victims of terrorism? well, they were killed on purpose, which means they were murdered.

so, this isn't a *realistic flipside*. please don't mistake yourself and others.

[Shakula]

Originally Posted by alexg

It's a terrible world we live in...

I'm sure many of these children wouldn't become terrorists... you know what, even if all of them would, it would be terribly unhuman to murder them...

But they weren't murdered and you know it. 99% of them were killed by mistake. that != murder.

I didn't see the 'other thread' you were talking about, but I'm guessing it's about Israeli victims of terrorism? well, they were killed on purpose, which means they were murdered.

so, this isn't a *realistic flipside*. please don't mistake yourself and others.

I will enjoy to see the news when Iran takes care of your family, i will post a similar thread about it then!

Your family got killed by misstake, they where aiming for the terrorists in Israel.

[porno jew]

it's called preemption.

[porno jew]

when you see a cancer growing do you wait until the tumor has grown large, or do you remove it early?

i don't know why you are so puzzled?

[alexg]

Originally Posted by Shakula

I will enjoy to see the news when Iran takes care of your family, i will post a similar thread about it then!

Your family got killed by misstake, they where aiming for the terrorists in Israel.

I don't care about what you would enjoy...

[Fletch XXX]

obligatory "jew/pali threads get views" post.

[Splum]

How many Israeli children have died as a result of Palestinian terrorist actions since Sept 2000? Or doesnt your anti-semite source keep track of that?

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by vidvicious

Children raised on hatred .. Hatred of a people based on religion .. taught that it is better to die for the cause then to protest it.

If you for one second think that none of those cute little children would not chop your head off to get closer to they're maker in the name of J'had .. then your living in a make believe world


Wake up

religion is soooo easy to blame here

I ask myself what i would do or react if i was on the palestinian side.. i'd probably be doing the same thing.

Funny world eh?

Also this whole "hiding behind women and children".. seems odd, considering, 1, lack of space to have a conventional fight, 2, doing anything else would resemble taking a spoon to a gunfight.

R

[starpimps]

there will never be peace in the middle east.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Splum

How many Israeli children have died as a result of Palestinian terrorist actions since Sept 2000?

a drop in the bucket compared to the palestinians killed

Originally Posted by Splum

Or doesnt your anti-semite source keep track of that?

i didnt realise wikipedia , The U.N., IDF and yahoo were anti-semites, thanks for clearing that up..


Your a sad sad racist son.. you choose to ignore the truth and yell anti-semite at anyone who you dont agree with , but your theory has no merit.

Basically your calling the IDF anti-semites, HAHA talk about deluded

Maybe your right , maybe EVERYONE is an anti-semite, except you

[DjSap]

Just because they are children doesn't mean they are innocent. Throw shit at a tank and get shot is a good policy. I feel sorry for the ones who are truly innocent bystanders but a substantial number of them would grow up to be terrorists or terrorist supporters.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by alexg

I didn't see the 'other thread' you were talking about,

so, this isn't a *realistic flipside*. please don't mistake yourself and others.

if you didnt even read the other thread then you have no basis to claim it isnt a realistic flipside.. HELLO REALITY

Shooting a missile into a populated area you KNOW contains children is murder. The only people who DON"T think murder is murder is people that think they are superior to others.. thus their lives are somehow worth more than others..

How is setting off a bomb in a heavily populated area any different than shooting a missile into a heavily populated area..

( other than the fact israel has killed HUNDREDS more children )

Lets see if i have this right.. israel "accidently" killed 10 times the amount of children than the "terrorists" who managed to kill LESS children targetting them
hmm either your math is fuzzy or.....

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by DjSap

Just because they are children doesn't mean they are innocent.

quite sad you value some children higher than others..

Originally Posted by DjSap

a substantial number of them would grow up to be terrorists or terrorist supporters.

try flipping that statement around for both sides, when you cant its clear you value life of israeli's higher than lives of palestinians

What exactly are these kids going to grow up as ?

[DjSap]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

quite sad you value some children higher than others..

try flipping that statement around for both sides, when you cant its clear you value life of israeli's higher than lives of palestinians

What exactly are these kids going to grow up as ?

Of course I value Israelis more than Palestinians, one of them is a friend of the west while the other one is an enemy. In addition palestinians haven't done much to improve my life while a substantial amount of inventions have come out of Israel. So why exactly wouldn't I value Israel over Palestine?

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by DjSap

Of course I value Israelis more than Palestinians,

thats your problem right there sire, it appears your a bigot

Originally Posted by DjSap

one of them is a friend of the west while the other one is an enemy.

news to me , and i am the west

Originally Posted by DjSap

In addition palestinians haven't done much to improve my life while a substantial amount of inventions have come out of Israel. So why exactly wouldn't I value Israel over Palestine?

you got me there. !!!

[WarChild]

"I killed them. I killed them all. They're dead. Every single one of them. And not just the men, but the women, and the children, too! They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals! I hate them!"

[DjSap]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

thats your problem right there sire, it appears your a bigot
news to me , and i am the west


you got me there. !!!

I am not a bigot, I just value people based on their value to me as an individual.

You do the same, or would you say that you value your parents life as much as a strangers? I've just used the same logic and expanded it a bit in order to be consistent in my argument.

[alexg]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Lets see if i have this right.. israel "accidently" killed 10 times the amount of children than the "terrorists" who managed to kill LESS children targetting them
hmm either your math is fuzzy or.....

that's right...

we both know (or maybe you don't, I'm not sure anymore) that if Israel WANTED to target palestinian children, there would be 800 dead children daily, and not 800 in three years or so...

on the other end, the palestinian terrorists are not capable to wipe out the entire Israeli population, and thank god for that.
If they were capable of that, they would. a long time ago...

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by alexg

that's right...

we both know (or maybe you don't, I'm not sure anymore) that if Israel WANTED to target palestinian children, there would be 800 dead children daily, and not 800 in three years or so...

Whats your point.. ? that its ok to kill 800 in 3 years as long as your capable of killing 800 per day ,? your rational makes no sense.

Originally Posted by alexg

If they were capable of that, they would. a long time ago...

anyone can make that statement about anything...

If "antarctica was capable of killing everyone they would have done that long ago "

"if butterflies were capable of wiping everyone out they would "

etc etc and on and on . staments with no validity.. if it had validity you would show me every palestinian saying that, but instead you cherry pick lunatic statements as your opinion of a whole nation of people..

[alexg]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Whats your point.. ? that its ok to kill 800 in 3 years as long as your capable of killing 800 per day ,? your rational makes no sense.

no, my point is that Israel doesn't WANT to target palestinian children or civilians. sometimes they are killed by accident. THEREFORE it's not MURDER.

[alexg]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

if it had validity you would show me every palestinian saying that

WRONG!

My statement was that if THE TERRORISTS had the capability, they would destroy Israel. not EVERY PALESTINIAN.

Therefore, I would need to show you EVERY TERRORIST saying that, not every palestinian.

The terrorist organisations' leaders have stated many times that their goal is to destroy the zionist entity, which is how they refer to Israel.

[Danny_C]

Originally Posted by DjSap

They were potential terrorists, end of discussion.

Did you just advocate killing children if they're "potential" terrorists?

[Danny_C]

Originally Posted by DjSap

In addition palestinians haven't done much to improve my life while a substantial amount of inventions have come out of Israel. So why exactly wouldn't I value Israel over Palestine?

Perhaps a lot more good would have come out of Palestinians were they given the finances, military backing, and basic opportunities given to their Israeli counterparts.

Are you saying that they don't contribute because they're Palestinian, or because they're middle eastern, or because they have brown skin?

[alexg]

Originally Posted by Danny_C

Perhaps a lot more good would have come out of Palestinians were they given the finances, military backing, and basic opportunities given to their Israeli counterparts.

If they had a good leadership they would be able to make better of the opportunities they HAVE received in the past.
But they were always led by corrupted leaders who took all the government money to themselves.

not saying the Israeli government isn't corrupted... but everything is relative.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by alexg

no, my point is that Israel doesn't WANT to target palestinian children or civilians. sometimes they are killed by accident. THEREFORE it's not MURDER.

LOL they must be the most accident prone people on earth.

I asked my child what happens if you drop a bomb where kids are ..

reply ? the kids will be killed by the bomb

seems my kid is smarter than you or the IDF..

Why beat around the bush, you know the reason why isreal bombs people and places when they know children are their.. read up and djsap explains it best .. everyone you kill is a potential terrorist = kids are no longer innocent.. They are just potential terrorists being cleansed..


just out of curiosty i'll see if you have the balls to answer this question without having a disclaimer..

Do you love muslims ?
Do you love jews ?

I love both , no "but but." just yes no disclaimers, no hate just love.


Do you think a muslim baby is equal in value/worth to a jewish baby ?

[Shakula]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

LOL they must be the most accident prone people on earth.

I asked my child what happens if you drop a bomb where kids are ..

reply ? the kids will be killed by the bomb

seems my kid is smarter than you or the IDF..

Why beat around the bush, you know the reason why isreal bombs people and places when they know children are their.. read up and djsap explains it best .. everyone you kill is a potential terrorist = kids are no longer innocent.. They are just potential terrorists being cleansed..


just out of curiosty i'll see if you have the balls to answer this question without having a disclaimer..

Do you love muslims ?
Do you love jews ?

I love both , no "but but." just yes no disclaimers, no hate just love.


Do you think a muslim baby is equal in value/worth to a jewish baby ?

Israelians should be killed on sight. There is nothing to defend when it comes to israel. Ofcourse there are israelians who doesnt support what israel does, but we will just accidently kill them too.

The world would be a lot better place without Israel.
If you look back about 70 years, the root of all evil comes from Israel.

More welfare then countries in Africa, time to cut that shit off.
The future has already been written. Now its time to pay the debt.

[alexg]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Why beat around the bush, you know the reason why isreal bombs people and places when they know children are their.. read up and djsap explains it best .. everyone you kill is a potential terrorist = kids are no longer innocent.. They are just potential terrorists being cleansed..

I trully believe you're wrong and that's not the reason they're killed. the reason is because they are surrounded by real terrorists (not 'potential' ones).
If you think the IDF is some kind of unhuman army that gets orders to bomb children you're terribly wrong.

If I have to answer in one word:

Do you love muslims ?

no.

Do you love jews ?

yes.

Do you think a muslim baby is equal in value/worth to a jewish baby ?

no.


Before you accuse me of racism or whatever, please note that while the above statements are closer to the truth on a YES/NO scale, the following statements HOLD:
- I don't hate muslims
- I hate murder
- I don't love ALL jews (I answered yes because in general I can say I love my people).
- I don't think ALL muslims' lives are worth less than ALL jews'. (I answered yes because it's like if I'd ask you if you think your relatives' lives are worth more than the life of some people you don't know).

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by alexg

If you think the IDF is some kind of unhuman army that gets orders to bomb children you're terribly wrong.

i dont think they get orders but if the end result is WORSE then who cares what your intentions are.. israel "unintentionally" kills 10 times more children than palestinians "intentionally" do. If you spin around in a circle shooting a gun your not intentionally trying to shoot anybody , but if you kill 8 people does that make you "better" than someone who intentionally kills 1 ?

Originally Posted by alexg

If I have to answer in one word:

Q) Do you love muslims ?
no.

Q) Do you love jews ?
yes.

this about sums it up .. you dont know most jews nor most muslims but you believe they are inherently better than others... i applaud you for your honesty but have to shake my head at the irrational theory.

Originally Posted by alexg

Before you accuse me of racism or whatever.

I'm not accusing you of it , just asking your take..

I think your words speak louder than any accusation i could make.

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?noun 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others

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[cherrylula]

and how many Iraqi children were "accidentally" killed by Americans?

its an ugly, ugly world.

[alexg]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i dont think they get orders but if the end result is WORSE then who cares what your intentions are.. israel "unintentionally" kills 10 times more children than palestinians "intentionally" do. If you spin around in a circle shooting a gun your not intentionally trying to shoot anybody , but if you kill 8 people does that make you "better" than someone who intentionally kills 1 ?

I think a driver who caused a car accident by mistake in which 8 people died is better than a murderer who deliberately shot someone in the head, yes.

this about sums it up .. you dont know most jews nor most muslims but you believe they are inherently better than others... i applaud you for your honesty but have to shake my head at the irrational theory.

please don't put words in my mouth.
you asked me if I loved muslims. I don't love them, no.
yet, I do love my nationality.
let me remind you that judaism is not just a race, but a nation, a people. Most people in the western world have positive feelings towards their nation. how is that racist?
how is *not feeling love* towards people of a certain religion being racist?

regarding the baby/worth question, sure, given that I only know ONE THING about the baby and that's whether he's jewish or muslim, I value the baby who belongs to my nation more.
I would answer the same if you asked me if I value a jewish or christian baby more, so does that mean I'm racist towards christians as well?

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by alexg

I think a driver who caused a car accident by mistake in which 8 people died is better than a murderer who deliberately shot someone in the head, yes.

thats not the question.. a person in a car accident has no way of knowing children could be killed , you and i both know the IDF does. when they shoot rockets at cars in public street common sense says civilians will be hurt.

Originally Posted by alexg

regarding the baby/worth question, sure, given that I only know ONE THING about the baby and that's whether he's jewish or muslim, I value the baby who belongs to my nation more.
I would answer the same if you asked me if I value a jewish or christian baby more, so does that mean I'm racist towards christians as well?

like i said i'm not judging you. Just letting you know how it appears to an unbiased person who loves both muslims and jews equally.. If you start off with a biased approach of loving one side more its no wonder you see little value in their lives..

[Screaming]

scary scary world we live in

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by alexg

I think a driver who caused a car accident by mistake in which 8 people died is better than a murderer who deliberately shot someone in the head, yes.

since you have a hard time answering the question . I'll try to put in better context..

If a jewish man had just murdered a muslim family and ran into your house and took your kids hostage would you want them to bomb the house with no regard for you children. ?

If a muslim man had just murdered a jewish family and then ran into a muslim household and took 2 mulsim children hostage would you want them to bomb the house with no regard for the 2 mulsim children ?

[DjSap]

Originally Posted by Danny_C

Perhaps a lot more good would have come out of Palestinians were they given the finances, military backing, and basic opportunities given to their Israeli counterparts.

Are you saying that they don't contribute because they're Palestinian, or because they're middle eastern, or because they have brown skin?

The Israelis aren't given anything, thus the Palestinians should not be given anything, they should earn it.

The Palestinians don't contribute...ehm well....because they DON'T CONTRIBUTE. It has nothing to do with their skin tone but rather the culture, it does not foster education or innovation. On one side we have Israel that is most likely the worlds most innovative country if we look at it on a per capita basis and on the other hand we have palestine who's greatest contribution to the world is suicide bombers. Are you seriously expecting me to value the israelis and palestinians equally when this is the situation at hand?

[pornguy]

It wont be long before the entire place is glass.

[Shakula]

Originally Posted by DjSap

The Israelis aren't given anything, thus the Palestinians should not be given anything, they should earn it.

The Palestinians don't contribute...ehm well....because they DON'T CONTRIBUTE. It has nothing to do with their skin tone but rather the culture, it does not foster education or innovation. On one side we have Israel that is most likely the worlds most innovative country if we look at it on a per capita basis and on the other hand we have palestine who's greatest contribution to the world is suicide bombers. Are you seriously expecting me to value the israelis and palestinians equally when this is the situation at hand?

The israelis arent given anything?
What are you smoking you dumb shit?

How is Palestinians going to be able to contribute when their country is getting bombed every day by the israelians? By missiles given from the US.

Come down to the earth you fucking twat, i didnt think it was possible to become more stupid then JTF but clearly its possible.

[DjSap]

Originally Posted by Shakula

The israelis arent given anything?
What are you smoking you dumb shit?

How is Palestinians going to be able to contribute when their country is getting bombed every day by the israelians? By missiles given from the US.

Come down to the earth you fucking twat, i didnt think it was possible to become more stupid then JTF but clearly its possible.

The aid that Israel receives is due to PR campaigns, heavy lobbying and by forming strategic alliances, in other words they work for it.

If you are going to call me stupid and actually be able to convince somebody of your claim then you might want to avoid using words like israelians.

[drctfiesta]

[WarChild]

I have just finished setting up my newest venture:

The museum of Muslim contributions to modern Science, Medicine and Economics. Admission is quite cheap.

[Fap]

Originally Posted by porno jew

when you see a cancer growing do you wait until the tumor has grown large, or do you remove it early?

i don't know why you are so puzzled?

HORRIBLE analogy we are talking about human life here. Don't compare a human race to cancer.

[Jack_Daniels]

On 9-11 the palastinians danced in the streets and handed out candy.

The jews did no such thing.

Nuff said?