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Fletch XXX 04-01-2007 07:21 AM

One fact: People who cheat on their lovers are NOT to be trusted when it comes to business.

if they fuck over their loved ones, they will surely fuck you over.

Ive always been amazed at how much "cheating' goes on at webmaster conventions, these same people will stab you in the back when the deal s done.

beware the cheaters.

bausch 04-01-2007 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather (Post 12177788)
Hell no. My bachelorparty was a sausagefest, and a good one too. Lots of male nudity and stuff Seeeee?

Omg, that is hilarious! It really was a sausage fest :winkwink:

bausch 04-01-2007 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 12177827)
One fact: People who cheat on their lovers are NOT to be trusted when it comes to business.

if they fuck over their loved ones, they will surely fuck you over.

Ive always been amazed at how much "cheating' goes on at webmaster conventions, these same people will stab you in the back when the deal s done.

beware the cheaters.

Yea I agree. That would be another good thread to start a poll about "if you cheat at porn conventions."

stev0 04-01-2007 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by rotowa85 (Post 12177703)
you know what id prob fuck a stripper on my bachelor party and my girl prob wouldnt mind too much, were smart enough to be able to seperate sex from love. something i would have thought a bunch of adult webmasters would understand

Smart enough? Intelligence would have nothing to do with that personal decision.

Sounds like commitment issues to me, if you really love someone why would you want to "mate" with someone else? just my :2 cents:

bausch 04-01-2007 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by stev0 (Post 12178338)
Smart enough? Intelligence would have nothing to do with that personal decision.

Sounds like commitment issues to me, if you really love someone why would you want to "mate" with someone else? just my :2 cents:

Yea, I agree. Just cause you work in porn doesn't mean you have to separate love and sex. I am not judgmental and don't judge other people cause frankly I don't care about other people, I only care about things that affect me directly.

Selling porn is just selling a product like any other product like cars or clothes. Just cause you sell porn doesn't mean you have to endorse "open relationships" in your personal life.

I only sell porn to make money, I'm not into the wild sex lifestyle...

It has nothing to do with morals or anything, more because some people just like "to be the only one" in their partners life, I admit I'm a jealous person and very possessive, I like all the attention of whomever I'm with only on ME and no one else!! If they are fucking someone else they are spending their energy on something other than ME. I want all their attention. I don't share and I don't want to be in an open relationship.

If others like it, that's great for them. It doesn't affect me so I don't give a flying fuck.

jeffrey 04-01-2007 11:32 AM

First off, Bausch, did your just get married or something and suspect your other half of fucking a hooker at his bachelor party?
You seem to really hate men, so it wouldnt surprise me if your only into girls.

PS, I dont know who your are, this is just an observation from this thread.

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12175814)
I think hooker forums are a very good resource, those forums are HUGE and have thousands and thousands of members across the world, so therefore it must be an accurate representation?

Also I tend to believe people are more honest on forums because forums are anonymous. Those guys might not be as open in real life about their whoring activities but they can let it all out on the forums.

Also not everyone has internet and I bet a lot of guys are not even aware of those forums, just indulging on their own without advice/pointers/reviews etc, so the forums are just a small glimpse of what's out there, and what's out there is probably not very good.

Why are you using a forum full of guys that have sex with hookers to base your stats that all guys have sex with hookers and because of this all guys would have sex with a hooker on their bachelor party?

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12175852)
There was a survey done by Kinsey which showed 69% of white males had at least one experience with a prostitute.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/kinsey/...revisited.html

Yes, you are absolutely correct, there are thousands of women providing this service. From my research it seems though that a lot of the partners/husbands of these women don't mind because they are living off the woman's earnings, they are basically suitcase pimps.

WTF, are you seriously using 59 year old stats to make your aguement? And the stats are from someone thats been accussed of oversampling atypical populations at that. Things arent the same now as they were 60 years ago.
Even going by the newer stats which are still 12 years old they are way off, I fail to believe that only 63% of males surved had masterbated.
Going by the newer more realistic 15% of males have used hookers, thats still not to many people, 3 in 10. And I would suspect that number would be dependant on geographical location too. And then how many of those men that at some point in their life been with a hooker will have sex on their bachelor parter? 1 in 10 of those maybe?



Some men cheat, some women cheat, some change some dont. But I dont know if I would say guys are more likely to do anything, maybe 10 years ago, but not anymore.
The statistics on anything sexual are allways going to have a certain error too, I mean unless 85% of guys are having sex with 50% of the women. The numbers never add up to something realistic, guys will say they have when they havent and women will say they havent when they have.

On a personal note, I dont know anyone that has used a hooker or escorte. I know 3 guys that have cheated, but 10+ girls that have cheated.
I know 2 women that that did everything but put a dick in them at their bachelorette parties, when the guys at thier bachelor parties didnt even have women around (one we went duck hunting and quad camping for the weekend, and the other we went paintballing and then a nice dinner and drinks after).

I'll let you get back to your man bashing though.

bausch 04-01-2007 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffrey (Post 12178358)
First off, Bausch, did your just get married or something and suspect your other half of fucking a hooker at his bachelor party?
You seem to really hate men, so it wouldnt surprise me if your only into girls.

PS, I dont know who your are, this is just an observation from this thread.



I hate everyone of both sexes equally. Like BlackCrayon said so eloquently " I'm not a fan of humanity in general." I don't prefer anyone of either sex. I like to be alone period. Thanks.

stev0 04-01-2007 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12178353)
Yea, I agree. Just cause you work in porn doesn't mean you have to separate love and sex. I am not judgmental and don't judge other people cause frankly I don't care about other people, I only care about things that affect me directly.

Selling porn is just selling a product like any other product like cars or clothes. Just cause you sell porn doesn't mean you have to endorse "open relationships" in your personal life.

I only sell porn to make money, I'm not into the wild sex lifestyle...

It has nothing to do with morals or anything, more because some people just like "to be the only one" in their partners life, I admit I'm a jealous person and very possessive, I like all the attention of whomever I'm with only on ME and no one else!! If they are fucking someone else they are spending their energy on something other than ME. I want all their attention. I don't share and I don't want to be in an open relationship.

If others like it, that's great for them. It doesn't affect me so I don't give a flying fuck.

Yeah, exactly... to each their own. I just find it very arrogant for someone to think they're "smart enough" to take the love out of sex and lower their standards to sleeping with people they care nothing about. It seems really tacky to me.

bausch 04-01-2007 11:38 AM

And about the stats, if 59 years ago supposedly 69 % of men had sex with hookers shouldn't be the percentage be higher today? Why would the percentage be lower today than 59 years ago?

Because it's more liberal now and less stigma. Plus there's the internet where people can give reviews/tips regarding whore mongering and such so wouldn't that make it easier to whore....

So shouldn't it be higher? Even if the 69 % statistic was inaccurate, wouldn't today's rate be higher?

It's true that there's more casual sex available to men then 59 years ago but I don't think that by itself would drive the percentage down... ? I'm thinking because a lot of married men cheat they prefer hookers because it's quicker, more convenient, with a lesser chance of getting caught?

stev0 04-01-2007 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12178370)
And about the stats, if 59 years ago supposedly 69 % of men had sex with hookers shouldn't be the percentage be higher today? Why would the percentage be lower today than 59 years ago?

Because it's more liberal now and less stigma. Plus there's the internet where people can give reviews/tips regarding whore mongering and such so wouldn't that make it easier to whore....

So shouldn't it be higher? Even if the 69 % statistic was inaccurate, wouldn't today's rate be higher?

It's true that there's more casual sex available to men then 59 years ago but I don't think that by itself would drive the percentage down... ? I'm thinking because a lot of married men cheat they prefer hookers because it's quicker, more convenient, with a lesser chance of getting caught?

Maybe the hookers were better looking back then? Now an attractive woman with compromised morals has a lot of other avenues such as nude modeling for internet sites. The only ones that end up being hookers are the nasty crack whores that can't make it anywhere other than the street corner.

bausch 04-01-2007 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by stev0 (Post 12178379)
Maybe the hookers were better looking back then? Now an attractive woman with compromised morals has a lot of other avenues such as nude modeling for internet sites. The only ones that end up being hookers are the nasty crack whores that can't make it anywhere other than the street corner.

Nah, that's why many go on sex vacations now, cause supposedly the women in some third world places like Eastern Europe, Brazil, etc are supposedly much better looking hookers than the one in the Stats...

Many people have whoring vacations now, sex tourism is big business.

jeffrey 04-01-2007 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12178370)
And about the stats, if 59 years ago supposedly 69 % of men had sex with hookers shouldn't be the percentage be higher today? Why would the percentage be lower today than 59 years ago?

Because it's more liberal now and less stigma. Plus there's the internet where people can give reviews/tips regarding whore mongering and such so wouldn't that make it easier to whore....

So shouldn't it be higher? Even if the 69 % statistic was inaccurate, wouldn't today's rate be higher?

It's true that there's more casual sex available to men then 59 years ago but I don't think that by itself would drive the percentage down... ? I'm thinking because a lot of married men cheat they prefer hookers because it's quicker, more convenient, with a lesser chance of getting caught?

From your link (did you even read it?)
"During Kinsey's lifetime, the most damaging critique of his work focused on the sample of people he interviewed, which included large numbers of college students, prison inmates, and acknowledged homosexuals. If he oversampled in atypical populations and did not re-weight his results accordingly, then his numbers would be too high."

He used college students, prison inmates, and homosexuals.
1948, think about that date a bit, and ask yourself what the 20-30 year olds would have been doing in the last 9 years?
In case you forgot WWII was 39-45.
Then think about how that might effect the results. It doesnt take much to find articles about how men at war are far more likely to use hookers.

Not to mention who the fuck pays for sex when hitting the bar at 1:30am will land you some chick thats probably better looking then most hookers and almost guarranteed to be cleaner, where you would at least be the first fuck of the night. Casual sex is something that didnt happen back then that does now, and thats really been the last several years only too, and I suspect will only become more common here.

bausch 04-01-2007 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffrey (Post 12178425)

Not to mention who the fuck pays for sex when hitting the bar at 1:30am will land you some chick thats probably better looking then most hookers and almost guarranteed to be cleaner, where you would at least be the first fuck of the night. Casual sex is something that didnt happen back then that does now, and thats really been the last several years only too, and I suspect will only become more common here.

You are right about the sampling from the study, I just skimmed over that and didn't really read it in-depth.

Some people have told me they prefer hookers because they don't want to talk anyone, with a hooker it's more of a business transaction plus there's no chance of rejection.

Plus with a hooker, it's ALL about the customer, the customer doesn't have to give a damn about the hooker. With a girl he picks up with the bar he would probably have to be a bit more charming and polite and a lot of people probably don't want to deal with that. With the hooker it's all about the customer's pleasure.

Plus some people probably prefer hookers over an easy lay because they have more power with the hooker, they can tell her what to do etc...

And some people might like the thrill with a hooker cause they are also dodging police, stings, so the thought of doing something illegal might appeal to them, it might give them an adrenaline rush they wouldn't get from a one night stand from the bar. It's like a game, to see if they can negotiate the price down as much as possible and not get caught by vice.

Don't you think I kind of have a point though? These are all reasons why some people might prefer hookers over easy one night stands/free sex. I think because of these factors which I listed above people might still prefer whores over free sex.

BlackCrayon 04-01-2007 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12178370)
And about the stats, if 59 years ago supposedly 69 % of men had sex with hookers shouldn't be the percentage be higher today? Why would the percentage be lower today than 59 years ago?

Because it's more liberal now and less stigma. Plus there's the internet where people can give reviews/tips regarding whore mongering and such so wouldn't that make it easier to whore....

So shouldn't it be higher? Even if the 69 % statistic was inaccurate, wouldn't today's rate be higher?

It's true that there's more casual sex available to men then 59 years ago but I don't think that by itself would drive the percentage down... ? I'm thinking because a lot of married men cheat they prefer hookers because it's quicker, more convenient, with a lesser chance of getting caught?

Stats could be very different today due to the fact that there were much larger numbers of men in armed forces, whom are notorious for fucking hookers.

bausch 04-01-2007 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 12178490)
Stats could be very different today due to the fact that there were much larger numbers of men in armed forces, whom are notorious for fucking hookers.

You're funny, you said I talk about the same thing over and over again :1orglaugh Do I really?????????

BlackCrayon 04-01-2007 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12178495)
You're funny, you said I talk about the same thing over and over again :1orglaugh Do I really?????????

I'm not sure what you are getting at but yes you do. Do you want me to go through your posts and pull out ones from the past few months alone that are on the topic of men cheating?

Kre8t0r 04-01-2007 12:26 PM

Hmmmm does it count if your "future wife" tells the guy arranging the bachelor party to quote "Get him fucking laid!"?

If so them yes I'm guilty.... :winkwink:

[ Nate ] 04-01-2007 12:35 PM

Ok...so my best friend is getting married and i'm responsible for the party. I call my brother and say, ' hey dude, Bryans getting married and I'm throwing the party.' He says, 'cool, do you want hookers, or dancers or what?' I say, 'both, lets make it a good one!'
Scene fades to the night of the party... Everyone that was there got laid by the hookers that came, with the exception of myself ( I had a woman at the time) and my friend (was getting married at the time). Everybody else had girlfriends or was married also, but didn't give a shit.
In retrospect.... If I had the chance again, I would FOR SURE get in on the action, but it was still a great time!

jeffrey 04-01-2007 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12178467)
Don't you think I kind of have a point though? These are all reasons why some people might prefer hookers over easy one night stands/free sex. I think because of these factors which I listed above people might still prefer whores over free sex.


Your still talking a much smaller percentile then you think.
I live in a city of just over a million, at 10% using hookers thats 100,000 people have had sex with 800 registered hookers/escorts.
So maybe what even 2000 total hookers/escorts.

Thats alot of people using hookers. I would say the real number is 5% or less use hookers.

bausch 04-01-2007 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 12178503)
I'm not sure what you are getting at but yes you do. Do you want me to go through your posts and pull out ones from the past few months alone that are on the topic of men cheating?

No, don't. People will think I'm neurotic and I'll have to come back with a new nick.

rowan 04-01-2007 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12178570)
No, don't. People will think I'm neurotic and I'll have to come back with a new nick.

:Graucho

badmunchkin 04-02-2007 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12178495)
You're funny, you said I talk about the same thing over and over again :1orglaugh Do I really?????????

yea, you are constantly talking about guys having sex with hookers - you have OCD on this topic - I think you said in an earlier post your boyfriend had sex with hookers - so now you have generalized everyone with a penis as wanting to have sex with hookers.

I don't have the slightest interest in having sex with a hooker - not that I'm in any way holier then thou - the idea just makes me throw up in my mouth a little bit - every hooker I've ever seen is pretty gross. I think you should let go of the shit you've been through in your past, move on & try not to stereotype all men as being the same 'cuz we're not :2 cents:

Sly 04-02-2007 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12178495)
You're funny, you said I talk about the same thing over and over again :1orglaugh Do I really?????????

Yes, you do, haha.

Its either hookers or your "friend" that causes you so much trouble.

bushwacker 04-02-2007 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12178570)
No, don't. People will think I'm neurotic and I'll have to come back with a new nick.


you shop at trader jacks.

bausch 04-02-2007 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 12184627)
Yes, you do, haha.

Its either hookers or your "friend" that causes you so much trouble.

What "friend" are you talking about it? I don't remember saying anything about this. Just give me hints so I can remember but don't post links to old/threads topics. Thanks.

bausch 04-02-2007 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 12178503)
I'm not sure what you are getting at but yes you do. Do you want me to go through your posts and pull out ones from the past few months alone that are on the topic of men cheating?

I just mean that sometimes I'm not aware of talking about it so much. I mean, yes, I am aware I talk about it, but not to the point where other people can actually remember. I guess I am oblivious to how often I talk about it.

bausch 04-02-2007 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bushwacker (Post 12184634)
you shop at trader jacks.

Trader Joe's.

bausch 04-02-2007 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by [ Nate ] (Post 12178535)
Everyone that was there got laid by the hookers that came, with the exception of myself ( I had a woman at the time) and my friend (was getting married at the time). Everybody else had girlfriends or was married also, but didn't give a shit.
In retrospect.... If I had the chance again, I would FOR SURE get in on the action, but it was still a great time!

Yea, this is what I'm curious about. I wish there was a scientific study done with concrete numbers about how often this happens. I would be very interested to know the results, cause a few people in this thread have already said they also engaged in similar behavior.

Sly 04-02-2007 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12184971)
What "friend" are you talking about it? I don't remember saying anything about this. Just give me hints so I can remember but don't post links to old/threads topics. Thanks.

The hard drives. The spitting incident. The money situation.

bausch 04-02-2007 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 12185002)
The hard drives. The spitting incident. The money situation.

Oh yes. I recall now.

badmunchkin 04-02-2007 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12184991)
Yea, this is what I'm curious about. I wish there was a scientific study done with concrete numbers about how often this happens. I would be very interested to know the results, cause a few people in this thread have already said they also engaged in similar behavior.

yes, completely ignore all the posts from guys who say they're not into fucking hookers at all and go back to obsessing based on one guy who validates what you've already convinced yourself to believe anyways - that's the way to go :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

more "having sex with hookers questions" threads coming our way soon!!! :thumbsup :thumbsup

bausch 04-02-2007 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by badmunchkin (Post 12185088)
yes, completely ignore all the posts from guys who say they're not into fucking hookers at all and go back to obsessing based on one guy who validates what you've already convinced yourself to believe anyways - that's the way to go :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

more "having sex with hookers questions" threads coming our way soon!!! :thumbsup :thumbsup

Ok, I went back and tallied up all the answers and divided it between "yes" and "no's"

For guys who said stuff like "Yes, I went to a strip club and it turned into a gangbang" I counted that as ONE yes vote, because I don't know how many people there were etc

Plus I also counted in people who said they had a friend who fucked a whore at their bachelor party as one vote per poster...

I only counted no's when the guys specifically stated no. When they just argued that it doesn't happen as much as I think, but if they didn't specify that they themselves never participated in, I wasn't able to count it.

So then I got 5 definite "yes's" and 6 definite "no's"

So, it's almost 50/50, it's not just ONE person that is validating what I think, as you say. It's half/half so far.


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