There are some AMAZINGLY bad members areas out there...how can site owners be proud? - GoFuckYourself.com

Jace · 03-25-2007, 01:15 AM

I have been doing some research the past few days and checking out members areas, and MY GOD some site owners should be ASHAMED of themselves....making people pay $30+ per month to get into a site and giving them what looks like an 8th graders threw up some pics using Front Page

hell, one site was LITERALLY just a directory listing, all the content was there, but just in directory listing format

and people wonder why retention is so low and a lot of webmasters only choose PPS

Jace · 03-25-2007, 01:21 AM

haha, ok, here is a great one....ALL content from other sponsors, the ENTIRE members area is one big upsell to other sites

tony286 · 03-25-2007, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace

haha, ok, here is a great one....ALL content from other sponsors, the ENTIRE members area is one big upsell to other sites

Do they have to pay to get into that area?

Jace · 03-25-2007, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Do they have to pay to get into that area?

it is a members area, of course

Mutt · 03-25-2007, 01:25 AM

there is one PPS program whose members areas are nothing more than upsell mills - doubt if there is 500 dollars worth of content in any of them.

tony286 · 03-25-2007, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace

it is a members area, of course

that sux lol

Jace · 03-25-2007, 01:26 AM

haha, here is another one....you get into the members area and you have a single page with 10 photo sets, nothing else

Jace · 03-25-2007, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

there is one PPS program whose members areas are nothing more than upsell mills - doubt if there is 500 dollars worth of content in any of them.

haha, I know one like that....crazy shit!

Ayla_SquareTurtle · 03-25-2007, 01:37 AM

reviewer here... and boy oh boy are you RIGHT.

Jace · 03-25-2007, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Ayla_AAA

reviewer here... and boy oh boy are you RIGHT.

how the fuck do people get away with this shit?

I am on like the 30th site and I have seen ONE members area that I would consider halfway decent, and even that had mysql errors everywhere

Jace · 03-25-2007, 01:45 AM

haha, here is a great one, a celeb paysite

all it has in the members area are upsells to other celeb sites and pictures from news sites of the celebs...cost to join? $30 a month

Love Sex · 03-25-2007, 02:54 AM

name the sites

Dvae · 03-25-2007, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace

I have been doing some research the past few days and checking out members areas, and MY GOD some site owners should be ASHAMED of themselves....making people pay $30+ per month to get into a site and giving them what looks like an 8th graders threw up some pics using Front Page

hell, one site was LITERALLY just a directory listing, all the content was there, but just in directory listing format

and people wonder why retention is so low and a lot of webmasters only choose PPS

Names please.
OK name one.
Inquiring minds want to know.

Jace · 03-25-2007, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Love Sex

name the sites

spend the time and research it for yourself, i guarantee you won't get very far before screaming WTF?

V_RocKs · 03-25-2007, 03:05 AM

Badgirl bucks was like that.... 80 websites and the exact same content in the members area for each... Just bullshit after bullshit.

JamesK2 · 03-25-2007, 03:13 AM

Why are you surprised this is going on since the 02/03

polish_aristocrat · 03-25-2007, 03:14 AM

did you pay for access to them?

Jace · 03-25-2007, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

did you pay for access to them?

some of them, yeah...some I asked for passwords

most have $1.95 trial or around that though, so no biggie

lazycash · 03-25-2007, 03:47 AM

Yep, some are absolutely horrible with just a few pics and 7 year old video plugins. When I run across member's areas like that I have to believe that the only way they get a rebill is because the surfer forgets to cancel.

riddler · 03-25-2007, 03:59 AM

thats why before i promote a program they must have decent member content, so many programs have shitty members area, pay 30 dollars get in the member area and its a plugin feed..

TeenCat · 03-25-2007, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace

haha, here is another one....you get into the members area and you have a single page with 10 photo sets, nothing else

and people have to paid for that $30? if yes, congrats on great marketing on that site! if some newbie wants get money fast w/o rebills, thats great work in my eyes!

im telling that cause i will too try something like that in next few months lol. but not for $30, but about $10 etc ... but main will be also, image and marketing ... as a newbie im starting from zero so i cant pay $1000s for content!!

chodadog · 03-25-2007, 06:41 AM

I've reviewed over 300 paysites and the vast majority are really not worth the money. I've seen websites that haven't updated in months that only have 10 videos and about 50 image galleries, but they think they can charge 30 bucks per month for the member to access this stuff.

Best sites I've been in that come to mind: Any of the Karup's websites (karups's private collection, hometown amateurs, older women). MC-Nudes. FTVGirls. BangBros network. Only Over 30.

Website owners could learn a thing or two from those member's areas. That's how you treat a customer.

SinisterStudios · 03-25-2007, 06:50 AM

I have noticed this while researching solo girl sites, you get into the members area and there is like 10 videos and a few pic sets. I just cant understand why a webmaster would do this to their members. I just look at them and go WTF are they thinking trying to push this for $30 a month

Jace · 03-25-2007, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SinisterStudios

I have noticed this while researching solo girl sites, you get into the members area and there is like 10 videos and a few pic sets. I just cant understand why a webmaster would do this to their members. I just look at them and go WTF are they thinking trying to push this for $30 a month

10 videos? wow, you must have been looking at the high end ones, cause the ones I saw had no videos and 10 photo sets

no diary, no forums, no interaction at all

1hoho · 03-25-2007, 07:00 AM

hey jace... can u hit me up... i kinda want your opinion of mine since you have been lookin at so many and i just dont have the time. i know what you are talkin about cuz I have seen some horrid ones long ago. but this is something we have been workin on 4ever and would love your input.

BVF · 03-25-2007, 07:08 AM

My area is packed with over 175 girls and over 100 exclusively shot videos...See siggy.

Jimmer · 03-25-2007, 07:18 AM

I like it when programs let you have a trial of their site to see what you are promoting. It helps you to sell their sites better.

Digipimp · 03-25-2007, 07:20 AM

i thought most of us discovered this years ago

1hoho · 03-25-2007, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmer

I like it when programs let you have a trial of their site to see what you are promoting. It helps you to sell their sites better.

i think you are totally right, they should... or at least I usually do. there are so many surfers now that pretend to be webmasters, most are easy to spot... but a few have gottan good at it, that may be a concern as to why they do not... or that it does just really suck

Jimmer · 03-25-2007, 07:36 AM

Jace, maybe you should go to a state of the industry panel address and ask them about this?

Murderous · 03-25-2007, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BVF

My area is packed with over 175 girls and over 100 exclusively shot videos...See siggy.

...and 160 of them have vaginal discharge.

Jace · 03-25-2007, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmer

Jace, maybe you should go to a state of the industry panel address and ask them about this?

not sure how to take that

are you saying it is important enough to bring up there? I don't think so...

or are you making a jab at my lars threads?

Jace · 03-25-2007, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Murderous

...and 160 of them have vaginal discharge.

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Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-25-2007, 08:24 AM

Thanks for that early morning laugh

Why · 03-25-2007, 08:33 AM

jace, if you want id like you to take a look at our members areas and let me know what you think in comparison to the others you have reviewed. we put a lot of work into our members areas, id be very interested to hear how they stack up from an unbiased opinion.

if your interested, my icq is 82667356

thanks in advance

HighSociety · 03-25-2007, 08:43 AM

just look at thebestporn.com and you will get all the facts in the members area as far as the number of videos and pictures. If the site is not listed then they are probably afraid to have it listed

CheneyRumsfeld · 03-25-2007, 08:46 AM

shitty members areas is what keeps the stolen password sites in biz.
the surfer gets in the members area and finds out it is not worth a buck a month much less 30 or 40 a month.
got his porn for free and was saved from being ripped off.
if the member area wasn't shit maybe he just might join after all.

Jimmer · 03-25-2007, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace

not sure how to take that

are you saying it is important enough to bring up there? I don't think so...

or are you making a jab at my lars threads?

No jabs or anything, I just write without a lot of thought sometimes. I agree with you on your threads.

I just think when surfers see the inside of these bad sites why would they wan't to sign up again and why would they trust me again to recommend a good site.

Tempest · 03-25-2007, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace

I have been doing some research the past few days and checking out members areas, and MY GOD some site owners should be ASHAMED of themselves....making people pay $30+ per month to get into a site and giving them what looks like an 8th graders threw up some pics using Front Page

hell, one site was LITERALLY just a directory listing, all the content was there, but just in directory listing format

and people wonder why retention is so low and a lot of webmasters only choose PPS

No shit.. what I love is the ones that have crappy members areas... no content to speak off.. a couple feeds.. and then they complain about your conversions from trials to paid membership and so want to switch you to revshare...

UncutBucksMike · 03-25-2007, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by made2ordervideos

just look at thebestporn.com and you will get all the facts in the members area as far as the number of videos and pictures. If the site is not listed then they are probably afraid to have it listed

Everyone should take a look at their reviews before promoting any site. They provide the most complete reviews you are going to find. Any paysite with sense will get a review and look at the feedback and work on what they see as issues.

Also, when we build UncutBucks V2 we added a thumbnail snapshot of most of the members area for affilaites to see what they are selling. Additionally, if a webmaster wants to check it out we try to hook them up with a pass to check it out.

We did what you are doing Jace and there are some well known sites that charge a little for a trial which is so limited that you really can't see anything of the girls content, and evrything else is an upsell. I can only assume this is how they offset high PPS deals. Definitely not what I want to send my traffic to!

Jace · 03-25-2007, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmer

No jabs or anything, I just write without a lot of thought sometimes. I agree with you on your threads.

I just think when surfers see the inside of these bad sites why would they wan't to sign up again and why would they trust me again to recommend a good site.

ah, haha, cool

but you are exactly right, give the surfers shit all the time and they are likely not to believe you when you tell them you have gold

Ayla_SquareTurtle · 03-25-2007, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

how the fuck do people get away with this shit?

I am on like the 30th site and I have seen ONE members area that I would consider halfway decent, and even that had mysql errors everywhere

I don't know. I have reviewed hundreds of sites and I have seen some extremely bad ones. The ones that really kill me are the ones that say they have xyz while you are looking at the tour, you get in there and no xyz to be found. xyz can be anything from "hi-res pics" to "thousands and thousands of videos!" or whatever other bogus lie they are throwing at you. It's pretty sad when I'm actually SHOCKED when a paysite tour doesn't lie at all.

I always wonder how these people manage to get any sales from all the ads in their member's areas... Why would someone shell out another $30 after just getting ripped off? Or maybe they just sell the ad space to other unsuspecting webmasters.

MandyBlake · 03-25-2007, 01:52 PM

jace you need to stop with the attacks on front page.

tony286 · 03-25-2007, 02:00 PM

Front page is the foundation we have built our empire on lol

Jace · 03-25-2007, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MandyBlake

jace you need to stop with the attacks on front page.

haha, I have never personally used it, but I do know it used to be a horrible web design program...word has it they improved it recently, but I will never know

Nicky · 03-25-2007, 02:03 PM

Some member areas are just shockingly bad

chodadog · 03-25-2007, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by chodadog

Best sites I've been in that come to mind: Any of the Karup's websites (karups's private collection, hometown amateurs, older women). MC-Nudes. FTVGirls. BangBros network. Only Over 30.

Website owners could learn a thing or two from those member's areas. That's how you treat a customer.

Can't believe I almost forgot Sapphic Erotica and the other Sapphic Cash websites.

Mutt · 03-25-2007, 04:53 PM

on the other hand there are more great sites out there than ever before - go back to 98 and there were hardly any great sites.

there are big PPS programs with very good sites - years ago that wasn't true.

GigoloMason · 03-25-2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

10 videos? wow, you must have been looking at the high end ones, cause the ones I saw had no videos and 10 photo sets

no diary, no forums, no interaction at all

trafficgigolos.com

Give us a look ;)

KrisKross · 03-25-2007, 11:01 PM

If, as a webmaster, I hate sites that have all their video content available only in streaming format, then I can only imagine what surfers must think.

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Originally Posted by GigoloMason

trafficgigolos.com

Give us a look ;)

While your sites and layout are pretty good, I hate the way your picture galleries are in Flash only.

03-25-2007, 01:15 AM	#1
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	There are some AMAZINGLY bad members areas out there...how can site owners be proud? I have been doing some research the past few days and checking out members areas, and MY GOD some site owners should be ASHAMED of themselves....making people pay $30+ per month to get into a site and giving them what looks like an 8th graders threw up some pics using Front Page hell, one site was LITERALLY just a directory listing, all the content was there, but just in directory listing format and people wonder why retention is so low and a lot of webmasters only choose PPS

03-25-2007, 01:25 AM	#5
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	there is one PPS program whose members areas are nothing more than upsell mills - doubt if there is 500 dollars worth of content in any of them. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

03-25-2007, 01:37 AM	#9
Ayla_SquareTurtle Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 5000 full paysite reviews and counting Posts: 3,550	reviewer here... and boy oh boy are you RIGHT. __________________ gone. long gone. aylasquareturtle .."a"t".. gmail dawt com

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JamesK2 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 6,589	Why are you surprised this is going on since the 02/03 __________________

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03-25-2007, 01:21 AM	#2
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	haha, ok, here is a great one....ALL content from other sponsors, the ENTIRE members area is one big upsell to other sites

03-25-2007, 01:26 AM	#7
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	haha, here is another one....you get into the members area and you have a single page with 10 photo sets, nothing else

03-25-2007, 01:45 AM	#11
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	haha, here is a great one, a celeb paysite all it has in the members area are upsells to other celeb sites and pictures from news sites of the celebs...cost to join? $30 a month

03-25-2007, 02:54 AM	#12
Love Sex Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,905	name the sites

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V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,422	Badgirl bucks was like that.... 80 websites and the exact same content in the members area for each... Just bullshit after bullshit.

03-25-2007, 03:47 AM	#19
lazycash Troll Patrol Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Local Socal Posts: 15,214	Yep, some are absolutely horrible with just a few pics and 7 year old video plugins. When I run across member's areas like that I have to believe that the only way they get a rebill is because the surfer forgets to cancel.

03-25-2007, 03:59 AM	#20
riddler Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: up in gang bang heaven Posts: 3,726	thats why before i promote a program they must have decent member content, so many programs have shitty members area, pay 30 dollars get in the member area and its a plugin feed..

03-25-2007, 06:41 AM	#22
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	I've reviewed over 300 paysites and the vast majority are really not worth the money. I've seen websites that haven't updated in months that only have 10 videos and about 50 image galleries, but they think they can charge 30 bucks per month for the member to access this stuff. Best sites I've been in that come to mind: Any of the Karup's websites (karups's private collection, hometown amateurs, older women). MC-Nudes. FTVGirls. BangBros network. Only Over 30. Website owners could learn a thing or two from those member's areas. That's how you treat a customer. __________________ 26 + 6 = 1

03-25-2007, 06:50 AM	#23
SinisterStudios Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New Joisey Posts: 3,087	I have noticed this while researching solo girl sites, you get into the members area and there is like 10 videos and a few pic sets. I just cant understand why a webmaster would do this to their members. I just look at them and go WTF are they thinking trying to push this for $30 a month __________________ SEOIP.com Multiple IP Webhosting Shared and Dedicated IP's - Multiple Class A's - From $1.99/ip

03-25-2007, 07:00 AM	#25
1hoho Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 225	hey jace... can u hit me up... i kinda want your opinion of mine since you have been lookin at so many and i just dont have the time. i know what you are talkin about cuz I have seen some horrid ones long ago. but this is something we have been workin on 4ever and would love your input. __________________ exclusive niched sites - VertigoVixens StockingHo AllExtremeAnal VulvaPalooza VertigoCash ICQ 197376798

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03-25-2007, 08:33 AM	#35
Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	jace, if you want id like you to take a look at our members areas and let me know what you think in comparison to the others you have reviewed. we put a lot of work into our members areas, id be very interested to hear how they stack up from an unbiased opinion. if your interested, my icq is 82667356 thanks in advance

03-25-2007, 08:43 AM	#36
HighSociety Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,786	just look at thebestporn.com and you will get all the facts in the members area as far as the number of videos and pictures. If the site is not listed then they are probably afraid to have it listed __________________ http://www.highsociety.com http://www.playgirl.com http://www.cheri.com Jonathan "JC" Maldini ICQ: 223 643

03-25-2007, 08:46 AM	#37
CheneyRumsfeld Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,341	shitty members areas is what keeps the stolen password sites in biz. the surfer gets in the members area and finds out it is not worth a buck a month much less 30 or 40 a month. got his porn for free and was saved from being ripped off. if the member area wasn't shit maybe he just might join after all.

03-25-2007, 01:52 PM	#43
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03-25-2007, 02:00 PM	#44
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Front page is the foundation we have built our empire on lol

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03-25-2007, 04:53 PM	#48
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	on the other hand there are more great sites out there than ever before - go back to 98 and there were hardly any great sites. there are big PPS programs with very good sites - years ago that wasn't true. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!