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Doctor Dre 03-24-2007 06:44 PM

50 nutcase

BusterBunny 03-24-2007 06:44 PM

way slow :disgust

Doctor Dre 03-24-2007 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12142821)
It would seem thay solved it that way, but I never report anything so why should I believe all these vigilant surfers are.

So explain why the "reviewers" don't stop the obvious copyrighted material!!!
Are they so stupid that the can't recognize a Seinfeld episode?

You're logic is so flawed. If you're fat and ugly, why there are hot people out there ?

Wikipedia was built by a secret algo too.

Theo 03-24-2007 06:45 PM

Who told you they can't (at least on a significant degree)? Copyrighted material is what made youtube what it is now.

Doctor Dre 03-24-2007 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12142847)
Explain why Youtube reviewers can find porn but they can't find the copyrighted material that they are now facing a 1 billion dollar law suit over.

So they allowed content that will get them sued and persued content that's already in their search engine because.....why????

Is it possible that there's a algorithm to find porn but not other copyrighted material?

Because youtube makes the bank by putting copyrighted content up... and it's potically correct to their userbase.

We have a video site such as youtube, and we let lots of stuff slip until we get complaints.

The TOS states that the user has to own the copyrights... that, they can't review.

Theo 03-24-2007 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12142852)
50 skeptical lamers.






That would still be proprietary software worth big bucks that involved algorithms, so you are only proving my point here.

roll $5k and i'll deliver such script in 2 weeks, you can then go sell it for a billion

Doctor Dre 03-24-2007 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12142852)
50 skeptical lamers.


What sites do you run that have anything to do with what google is doing ?

I'm really starting to think that you're a troll

You really have no clue about what is possible to do with technology right now... 0 idea

sortie 03-24-2007 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 12142861)
If you're fat and ugly, why there are hot people out there ?

Because nobody has a "delete" button for either. :1orglaugh

sortie 03-24-2007 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 12142868)
What sites do you run that have anything to do with what google is doing ?

I'm really starting to think that you're a troll

You really have no clue about what is possible to do with technology right now... 0 idea

WHAT???????

I'm the one that started the thread about "What technology could do" and you are the one telling me that it don't exist.

HUH?????

Theo 03-24-2007 06:55 PM

Say he wanna be
Shorties gonna be a Thug
Said he wanna be
One day he's gonna be
Said he's wanna be
Shorties gonna be's a Thug
Said he's gonna be
One day he gonna be
Say he wanna be
Shorties gonna be a Thug
Said he gonna be
One day he's gonna be
Said he wanna be
Shorties gonna be a Thug

sortie 03-24-2007 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 12142866)
The TOS states that the user has to own the copyrights... that, they can't review.

Oh, agreeing with this idiot again.

Pleasurepays 03-24-2007 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 12142868)
What sites do you run that have anything to do with what google is doing ?

I'm really starting to think that you're a troll

You really have no clue about what is possible to do with technology right now... 0 idea

i think he is in grade school and just learned the word "algorithm"... maybe its on his "word a day" calendar and today is "algorithm" day and he couldn't figure out any good way to use it all day long.

sortie 03-24-2007 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel (Post 12142890)
Say he wanna be
Shorties gonna be a Thug
Said he wanna be
One day he's gonna be
Said he's wanna be
Shorties gonna be's a Thug
Said he's gonna be
One day he gonna be
Say he wanna be
Shorties gonna be a Thug
Said he gonna be
One day he's gonna be
Said he wanna be
Shorties gonna be a Thug

If that's the lyrics from your CD than I aint buying that shit.

sortie 03-24-2007 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 12142897)
i think he is in grade school and just learned the word "algorithm"... maybe its on his "word a day" calendar and today is "algorithm" day and he couldn't figure out any good way to use it all day long.

Oh, so since I don't have a big porn site like you then I don't know anything??

Just because you make a lot of money with a porn site doesn't mean you know everything and everybody else is stupid.

I make decent money programming for a cellular phone company but I don't call everyone stupid for dialing wrong numbers!!!!

fantasysnatch 03-24-2007 07:03 PM

googoo bought utube for the users, the community ... that is their focus.

Pleasurepays 03-24-2007 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12142913)
Oh, so since I don't have a big porn site like you then I don't know anything??

Just because you make a lot of money with a porn site doesn't mean you know everything and everybody else is stupid.

I make decent money programming for a cellular phone company but I don't call everyone stupid for dialing wrong numbers!!!!

no... you don't know anything and you have proven that in this thread. you are stupid because you won't listen to reason, ignore the obvious and cling to an idea that anyone can see is totally retarded, a few of whom, have taken the time to explain that to you... explanations which you choose to fully ignore.

dude... try to grasp this... last time... just for you. users flag youtube.com videos. the link is right there under each video. people do in fact review them manually. google has people manually reviewing SERPS from time to time... they have links for users to flag Adwords ads from time to time. its not difficult to control youtube.com no matter how you look at it and no matter what you seem to think, there is no magic "algorithm" and if you weren't such an idiot, you would realize immediately that 1) they don't develop and sell software. 2) if they want a piece of software, they don't need to pay 1.2 BILLION dollars for it. they are known to have access to programmers.

Shoehorn! 03-24-2007 07:09 PM

An algorithm to identify a porn video? :1orglaugh

SmokeyTheBear 03-24-2007 07:11 PM

i dont think your crazy sortie, i dont think your correct but your not crazy.

Why did google buy youtube ? because it has recognition, anything that big could spin off its own search engine or similar service and corner the market.. google is afraid . they bought it to run it into the ground so google video can flourish

p.s. your video porn algorithm has merit though

SmokeyTheBear 03-24-2007 07:16 PM

the money is in future contract with networks o broadcast their shows/movies

Youtube being more popular and bigger than google videos was in the prime position to snap these contracts up, now those nwtorks only have 1 choice. google or google

SweetT 03-24-2007 07:22 PM

When are you people going to realize that the Google/YouTube deal has absolutely NOTHING to do with videos...NOTHING.

On September 31, GOOG was trading for just under $400/share. Within a month of the announcement it was trading at more than $500/share. Google's stockholders value went up by almost $5B (yes, that is a B)...and don't you for one second think that it was a coincidence. The stock market is what makes the world go around...it is legalized gambling and companies do it ALL THE TIME!

It doesn't take a brilliant business person to answer this question.....Is it a good deal if a company acquires another company for $1.6B if 30 days later their value increases by more than $4B??

Seems like an easy answer to me.


--T

rowan 03-24-2007 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12142847)
Explain why Youtube reviewers can find porn but they can't find the copyrighted material that they are now facing a 1 billion dollar law suit over.

So they allowed content that will get them sued and persued content that's already in their search engine because.....why????

Is it possible that there's a algorithm to find porn but not other copyrighted material?

Going back to Soul_Rebel's thumb idea, it's pretty easy for a human to spot naked people; it's a little more involved to try and actually recognise faces or content.

FWIW people even flag vids of girls in bikinis.

Doctor Dre 03-24-2007 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12142882)
WHAT???????

I'm the one that started the thread about "What technology could do" and you are the one telling me that it don't exist.

HUH?????

No
I'm the one to tell you that a filter who could pull all adult content videos on the side for reviewers to reveiw asap wouldn't be hard to write... pixel tone and stuff... and it would be a couple thousands MAYBE a dozen thousadns to develop.

Doctor Dre 03-24-2007 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SweetT (Post 12142991)
When are you people going to realize that the Google/YouTube deal has absolutely NOTHING to do with videos...NOTHING.

On September 31, GOOG was trading for just under $400/share. Within a month of the announcement it was trading at more than $500/share. Google's stockholders value went up by almost $5B (yes, that is a B)...and don't you for one second think that it was a coincidence. The stock market is what makes the world go around...it is legalized gambling and companies do it ALL THE TIME!

It doesn't take a brilliant business person to answer this question.....Is it a good deal if a company acquires another company for $1.6B if 30 days later their value increases by more than $4B??

Seems like an easy answer to me.


--T

Captain Obvious, they wouldn't have bought it if there wasn't potential in it... people gamble on potential.

We have pre videos ads getting 12 % CTR on our network... because people are forced to watch them unlike standard television where you can zap... for now.

Online broadcasting is one of big things that's going to happen on the internet in the next 2 years, and they bought the biggest recognized support for it.

In the end, it's all about making money.

P.S. Even Bill Gates said online broadcasting is the future of television.

sortie 03-24-2007 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SweetT (Post 12142991)
When are you people going to realize that the Google/YouTube deal has absolutely NOTHING to do with videos...NOTHING.

On September 31, GOOG was trading for just under $400/share. Within a month of the announcement it was trading at more than $500/share. Google's stockholders value went up by almost $5B (yes, that is a B)...and don't you for one second think that it was a coincidence. The stock market is what makes the world go around...it is legalized gambling and companies do it ALL THE TIME!

It doesn't take a brilliant business person to answer this question.....Is it a good deal if a company acquires another company for $1.6B if 30 days later their value increases by more than $4B??

Seems like an easy answer to me.


--T


Now that I totaly see. Great point!

I'm just offering a possible mind bending alternative to this.
A "what if" scenario.

sortie 03-24-2007 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 12142948)
i dont think your crazy sortie, i dont think your correct but your not crazy.

Why did google buy youtube ? because it has recognition, anything that big could spin off its own search engine or similar service and corner the market.. google is afraid . they bought it to run it into the ground so google video can flourish

p.s. your video porn algorithm has merit though

I've "trolled" the board long enough without posting to have read a few of your threads and it is clear that you are one of the more advanced technical minds on GFY. So, I respect that you don't completely agree, yet have an open mind. Of course, a person has to really be tech savy to even consider what I said a possiblity.

And "possiblity" was all I was really saying.

sortie 03-24-2007 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 12143053)
No
I'm the one to tell you that a filter who could pull all adult content videos on the side for reviewers to reveiw asap wouldn't be hard to write... pixel tone and stuff... and it would be a couple thousands MAYBE a dozen thousadns to develop.

Well, that's exactly what the "algorithm" would be. So thanks for clarifying my point without making one of your own.

So go ahead and write the "couple thousands" dollar software so Microsoft can put it in it's browser and make porn haters STFU and make a cool mil!!!

But, you won't write it, because you can't.

V_RocKs 03-25-2007 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12142395)
OK, answer this then....

How many employees would it take to screen 70k videos per day and how much money did the original owners have to pay these employees while youtube didn't make a dime?

Let's see...70 employees who each screen 1000 vids in their perspective 8 hour shift...??? That's 125 vids per hour each or 2.08 vids per minute.

If someone had to take a shit then they got fired at that pace.

And at a meger $7 an hour for a 40 hour for 70 employees that would be
1 million 19 thousand 2 hundred dollars per year if they broke the law and didn't pay unemployment insurance + matching Social security + manditory health benefits for all full time. So it would cost them near 2 million a year for human screening at the least. That for a company with no revenue????

NO FUCKING WAY!!!!!!!!!!!




Indian minimum wage: $3.07 A DAY!

VIPimp 03-25-2007 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12142900)
If that's the lyrics from your CD than I aint buying that shit.

its 2pac... good track :)

Jace 03-25-2007 03:20 AM

my head hurts from the stupidity in this thread

stillsexy 03-25-2007 03:31 AM

tat's true. no porn on youtube....anyone posted one there b4?

scottybuzz 03-25-2007 03:46 AM

well porn gets deleted quickly because youtube has a strong userbase and although i dont use youtube, im sure theres a "flag" button that you can press to alert moderators.

Doctor Dre 03-25-2007 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12143184)
Well, that's exactly what the "algorithm" would be. So thanks for clarifying my point without making one of your own.

So go ahead and write the "couple thousands" dollar software so Microsoft can put it in it's browser and make porn haters STFU and make a cool mil!!!

But, you won't write it, because you can't.

First of all, implementing it in a browser with thumbnail would require way too much CPU for the normal user... it would slow down surfing and stuff. Adult filters out there do a pretty good job.

Your idea is just stupid.

You've got no idea of what our team is capable of... My partner (programmer) was making more money working at the governement as a consultant in a year then you'll probably make in the next 5 years, he could probably do something like that in less then a month and it would be very effective.

We have probably the most advanced backend on the net for a free dating portal out there.

P.S. You have no idea what an algorythm is. We're talking about a whole program there and you're talking about a secret algo. Read the definition. I'm sure you can read it on wikipedia... oh and is wikipedia computer genrated too ?

Audrey 03-25-2007 10:04 AM

I thought users were doing the police

spider_x 03-28-2007 12:34 PM

Youtube is hosted in Arizona. Kind of ironic considering there's so much porn in the state.

shoeaholicanon 03-28-2007 12:40 PM

whoa! things are getting outta control!

Cyber Fucker 03-28-2007 01:16 PM

google bought youtube because they are fuckin monopolists and they want to rule the web :2 cents:

chaze 03-28-2007 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12142297)
Why would google want youtube? Besides the traffic!

Youtube gets about 60k-70k video uploads per day.
Yet, you can't find a single hardcore porn video on it.

Correct me if I'm wrong...I've never seen one.

No way youtube screens each video per day by human eyes!!!
And that's the secret.

Youtube must have invented an algorithm to identify porn video.
And it's the algorithm that google was after.

He who controls the algorithm is in the strongest position to via for ultimate control of the internet since they can guarantee parents, schools and right-wingers of censorship of porn.

Conspiracy theory...maybe; but just think about it.

Interesting bu there is no secret, it was keep yahoo in a downward spiral. Yahoo was trying to buy so Google went over to keep it out of there hands.

SmokeyTheBear 03-28-2007 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12143158)
I've "trolled" the board long enough without posting to have read a few of your threads and it is clear that you are one of the more advanced technical minds on GFY. So, I respect that you don't completely agree, yet have an open mind. Of course, a person has to really be tech savy to even consider what I said a possiblity.

And "possiblity" was all I was really saying.

its actually already reality , i read a great tech article the other day on it.. tried to find it to show people but couldnt..

The flesh tones part is what they are working on now. but the crux of the idea is simple speech to text to identify flagged words like "fuck me " etc and text on screen(watermarks)

But im not sure thats the reason they bought youtube, i think google was prob researching this before youtube was around ( but i could be wrong )

starpimps 03-28-2007 04:35 PM

when you outsource to india to screen the videos, it shouldnt cost much to hire a building full to screen those 60-70k videos uploaded

alexg 03-28-2007 04:50 PM

funny theory...

HeadPimp 03-28-2007 06:02 PM

Most likely they bought it for ad revenue and to try and keep ahead of Bill Gate's company eating machine. Sort of a grow or die mentality. Problem is that most analysts think that it was a bad buy, which is why their stock has suffered lately.

Fresh 03-28-2007 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12142852)
50 skeptical lamers.


That would still be proprietary software worth big bucks that involved algorithms, so you are only proving my point here.


think again

Fresh 03-28-2007 06:20 PM

btw, when u say "big bucks" how much fucking bigger is the god damn google buck gonna get from a porn detection script? honestly.

Luc 03-28-2007 07:47 PM

sortie, not to insult your intelligence, but you don't know what you're talking about.

first off, youtube content IS screened by people, some employees, but MOST by other users who can FLAG content as inappropriate. that's why every video has that button next to it and lets anyone flag it. That’s why when you click on a porn video it says “this video has been marked as inapproprirate by youtube users and is no longer available…”. youtbue was built from the ground up to be a user controlled community, from the keywords, to descriptions to tags to content.

Youtube technology is weak. Their automation is extremely weak. They burned through $25 MILLION in investor dough before they sold to google. They are burning through $2 million per month in bandwidth.

As to why google bought youtube, the story behind that is some sleazy investor shit, and has nothing to do with “unique technologies.” Youtube still doesn’t come anywhere close to breaking even.

Do some research, the info is out there. Unfortunately, your theory is wrong.

sunserrae1 03-28-2007 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12142297)

sortie
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 60

:disgust :disgust

one eight 03-28-2007 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunserrae1 (Post 12162708)
:disgust :disgust

Join date means nothing.

I applaud Smokey, the stocks shares theory guy, and others that recognize Youtube has nothing to do with videos, but rather resource conglomeration, and media consolidation- it's an entirely different model.. that i suspect will begin to reveal itself shortly, and long into the future.

I don't think you quite nailed this one on the head, Sortie, but i think you're asking the right questions. :thumbsup

Barefootsies 03-28-2007 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by one eight (Post 12162762)
Join date means nothing.

I applaud Smokey, the stocks shares theory guy, and others that recognize Youtube has nothing to do with videos, but rather resource conglomeration, and media consolidation- it's an entirely different model.. that i suspect will begin to reveal itself shortly, and long into the future.

I don't think you quite nailed this one on the head, Sortie, but i think you're asking the right questions. :thumbsup

Actually I think it has more to do with the 'big guys' battling out the video/cable/tv show/advertising model.

If you follow what's been going on lately, and Yahoo launching their '9' network. It's a matter of time before either Yahoo, or Google, perfects the way to do video and build in a profitable way to deliver advertising via video, and 5/10/15 second adverts.

This started years ago when Yahoo bought LaunchCast.

This doesn't even get into the Fox/ABC partner announcement the other day having to do with the web, and getting their programs available for d/l via internet.

Right now the race is on for monitizing the advertising on video.

:2 cents:

tehHinjew 03-28-2007 08:11 PM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=6DEcRtYLkt8

Rob_MN 03-29-2007 02:12 AM

Google plans to take over the world but there is no way that YouTube has a script that recognizes porn. Surely not?

Does it also have a script makes all of the 18yr+ clips members only?

BusterBunny 03-29-2007 02:18 AM

100......


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