is AWE still only paying revshare for 14 days? - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

StarkReality · 12-05-2007, 08:11 AM

It has been discussed over and over, you can make nice money with them, but you can only advertise them on sites that ensure a good percentage of the visitors come back again and again or you'll be out of the game after 14 days.

So, great program, but don't try advertising it the way you may be used to. It's shit as an addon in a blog sidebar for example, but can do wonders when you build some good sites for it.

darksoul · 12-05-2007, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

the only way it would be " fair game" is if after 14 days AWE cancelled their account, kicked them back into cyber space and told them to find their way back through someone else's advertisement.

Thats actually how it works but you're too busy spewing your bullshit to realize that.

Pics Traffic · 12-05-2007, 08:36 AM

wow, i didnt know that.

scottybuzz · 12-05-2007, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul

Thats actually how it works but you're too busy spewing your bullshit to realize that.

no its not you retard

scottybuzz · 12-05-2007, 10:10 AM

double post

darksoul · 12-05-2007, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz

no its not you retard

after 14 days the customer is back in the pool and any other webmaster
can get credits off him.
But what do you know, keep posting...

scottybuzz · 12-05-2007, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul

after 14 days the customer is back in the pool and any other webmaster
can get credits off him.
But what do you know, keep posting...

because i have been a surfer and webmaster of AWE before!

I put credits in, 14 days later, I repayed, did i visit a free site then visit awe? Nope I typed in Livejasmin.com into my browser and logged in with my username. did the first webmaster get the credits, no, did awe make 100% of the sale(/affiliate)? yes

stop talking shit.

darksoul · 12-05-2007, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz

because i have been a surfer and webmaster of AWE before!

I put credits in, 14 days later, I repayed, did i visit a free site then visit awe? Nope I typed in Livejasmin.com into my browser and logged in with my username. did the first webmaster get the credits, no, did awe make 100% of the sale(/affiliate)? yes

stop talking shit.

nobody denied that. Make sure you understand whats being talked first.

scottybuzz · 12-05-2007, 11:18 AM

well sorry, but i am getting confused here

you replied to this

"the only way it would be " fair game" is if after 14 days AWE cancelled their account"

well awe does not cancel the account. which you said they did, "thats exactly how it works"

where am i going wrong here?

will76 · 12-05-2007, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ishban

You dont get it..THEY DONT HAVE TO SIGN UP AGAIN.
with the awe program you can sell existing members. Say an existing whale member is surfing and passes through your site you can Resell him even if he is a member as long as he picks up your cookie before he makes his next purchase.

You got to be fucking kidding me, let me see if i get this straight.

I pay for advertising. I convince the surfer to signup to livejasmin, he puts in his credit card and he makes an account. I ONLY get paid for what he spends during his first 14 days. After 14 days he is still a member. If he drops $2,000 on day 15 AWE makes 100% and doesn't have to pay me. If this same member happens to come across you site, clicks a link and sees it is for livejasmin and he leaves because he knows he already has an account. So your cookie is set on his computer for 14 days and if he buys time in 14 days YOU get credit for the sale???

WTF, that is even more fucked up than i thought. You didn't sell the person, you just got him to click your link, you could have had a blind link, tgp skim, it could have been anything. You could have been cookie stuffing eveyone who hits your site. You didn't sell shit, you just got your cookie on their pc and AWE rewards you by giving you credit for what the person spends over the next 14 days? You didn't sell shit, I sold that person. It was me that introduced him to the site, it was my add that got him to take out his credit card and signup, but I only get 14 days from him. And anyone else who can set their cookie on his site gets 14 days too. And if no cookie is set by anyone then AWE makes 100% those times.

Please tell me that you explained it wrong and this is not how it works, if so that has to be the most retarded system I have ever heard of. So all i have to do is buy millions of hits, cheap traffic and cookie stuff. Odds are some of the people who will hit the site have AWE accounts and I will get 14 day shot at them.... Wonderfull program, way to compensate the people who are actually doing the work (getting them to signup).

will76 · 12-05-2007, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarkReality

It has been discussed over and over, you can make nice money with them, but you can only advertise them on sites that ensure a good percentage of the visitors come back again and again or you'll be out of the game after 14 days.

So, great program, but don't try advertising it the way you may be used to. It's shit as an addon in a blog sidebar for example, but can do wonders when you build some good sites for it.

I have the perfect way to advertise them. Set up a hidden iframe on all my sites and set the cookie when someone comes to my site. I will be rewarded for all my hard work by making sales for 14 days from people who already have AWE accounts. What did I contribute in the way of new customers or sales ? ZERO. but i get rewarded and paid and the people who got them to signup initially get dick ? Great program. Who thought up that brillant system ?

BradM · 12-05-2007, 12:43 PM

no, that's how it works will

will76 · 12-05-2007, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul

Thats actually how it works but you're too busy spewing your bullshit to realize that.

You missed what I was saying, that they would have to SIGN UP again, as explained here that is not what is happening. They are not taking their credit card out again and signup to the site. I seriously doubt a site would stay in busiiness if their customers had to keep resigning up to it every 14 days. Don't worry I will type slower for you if you fall behind.

Craig T · 12-05-2007, 01:08 PM

Easy Question:

If a whale joins from your link and spends $1000's over months and months , how did you get paid???

Answer: You didn't.

Explain to me again how that is fair???

Anyone that doesn't get that the real money in a cam system is long term is selling themselves short.

Especially when the 14 day cookie was never explained up front.

There are a lot of ways a cam company can short you. Hit me up, I will be glad to explain them all to you.. no sales pitches, promise.

TheSenator · 12-05-2007, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

I have the perfect way to advertise them. Set up a hidden iframe on all my sites and set the cookie when someone comes to my site. I will be rewarded for all my hard work by making sales for 14 days from people who already have AWE accounts. What did I contribute in the way of new customers or sales ? ZERO. but i get rewarded and paid and the people who got them to signup initially get dick ? Great program. Who thought up that brillant system ?

Stop giving away the hidden Iframes. Thanks

will76 · 12-05-2007, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig T

Easy Question:

If a whale joins from your link and spends $1000's over months and months , how did you get paid???

Answer: You didn't.

Explain to me again how that is fair???

Anyone that doesn't get that the real money in a cam system is long term is selling themselves short.

Especially when the 14 day cookie was never explained up front.

There are a lot of ways a cam company can short you. Hit me up, I will be glad to explain them all to you.. no sales pitches, promise.

it sounds like a bunch of short sighted people to me or people who are exploiting the way AWE works.

The people who send lower volume high quality traffic are getting screwed. They are the affiliates who are actually getting new customers to AWE. But they lose them after 14 days. They look at their stats and compare their sales today vs their sales today with another cam program. But they don't factor in all of the sales they are losing weeks/months/years from now.

The people who promote AWE with high volume trash traffic (tgp skim, 404, exit page, etc..) they probably love AWE, they would likely never convert new customers into signing up, but there is a very good chance that existing customers may happen to hit their sites, even if just for a couple seconds. just long enough for their cookie to get set.

So the people who have crap traffic probably do make more money with AWE than if they were using other programs. Congrats to them for finding a company that rewards the people with crap traffic who don't bring in new customers. AWE takes the people with the quality traffic and pays them less so they can reward the crap affiliates who produce nothing.

brillant

if you have quality traffic I wouldn't touch this program. If you have a lot of shit traffic and you can't make signups of your own, it sounds like AWE is the perfect program for you, just cookie the stuff the hell out of your traffic.

Scootermuze · 12-05-2007, 04:16 PM

Don't know about anyone else, but when I do revshare, it's for the volume gained over time..

If you send a paying customer, and get no commission for time purchased after 14 days, then they should say '14 day revshare' ..
Wonder why they don't do that... The answer should be obvious... and yes... it's very misleading... regardless what any fine print says..

madfuck · 12-05-2007, 04:21 PM

hummm, idk but hey whn you find out let us all knw...

czarina · 12-05-2007, 04:48 PM

how about using the pay-per-signup option instead?

Scootermuze · 12-05-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by czarina

how about using the pay-per-signup option instead?

That's an obvious option, but many affiliates prefer revshare... hoping for the whale...
When choosing revshare, the common assumption is that it is just that.. They will share in the revenue for any customer they deliver to a sponsor, as long as the customer uses the sponsoring site..
When they're not told any different, they should be safe in assuming the definition of revshare hasn't changed...

will76 · 12-05-2007, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by czarina

how about using the pay-per-signup option instead?

and what get the 14 day cookie on that too ?

I have several people signup to ifriends weeks even months after they clicked my link.

14 day cookie = total bullshit doesn't matter if it is pps or short term revshare.

Walrus · 12-05-2007, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

The people who send lower volume high quality traffic are getting screwed. They are the affiliates who are actually getting new customers to AWE. But they lose them after 14 days. They look at their stats and compare their sales today vs their sales today with another cam program. But they don't factor in all of the sales they are losing weeks/months/years from now.

AWE really is for the high rolling adult webmaster only. Back when I had more webcam traffic I tried them out. I remember finally getting that sale... and then finding out later how their system worked. I made 4 sales in total, from 3 different people. Too bad I hadn't sent that traffic to MooCash or somewhere like that. I might still be making money from it. It's really amazing how so many on here stand up for AWE. Do you understand that Will? And they all speak of these magical conversion ratios. My ratio with AWE was not very good compared to ClickCash back then.

longdongsilver · 12-06-2007, 05:56 AM

are there not any good ccbill or nats based cam sites that actually have real rev share for life?

12-05-2007, 08:36 AM	#103
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12-05-2007, 11:18 AM	#109
scottybuzz Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Location: NY Posts: 14,800	well sorry, but i am getting confused here you replied to this "the only way it would be " fair game" is if after 14 days AWE cancelled their account" well awe does not cancel the account. which you said they did, "thats exactly how it works" where am i going wrong here? __________________ $$$$$ MAKE HUGE MONEY IN CAMS - CLICK HERE $$$$$

12-05-2007, 08:11 AM	#101
StarkReality Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: 4 8 15 16 23 42 Posts: 4,444	It has been discussed over and over, you can make nice money with them, but you can only advertise them on sites that ensure a good percentage of the visitors come back again and again or you'll be out of the game after 14 days. So, great program, but don't try advertising it the way you may be used to. It's shit as an addon in a blog sidebar for example, but can do wonders when you build some good sites for it.

12-05-2007, 12:43 PM	#112
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	no, that's how it works will

12-05-2007, 01:08 PM	#114
Craig T Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 414	Easy Question: If a whale joins from your link and spends $1000's over months and months , how did you get paid??? Answer: You didn't. Explain to me again how that is fair??? Anyone that doesn't get that the real money in a cam system is long term is selling themselves short. Especially when the 14 day cookie was never explained up front. There are a lot of ways a cam company can short you. Hit me up, I will be glad to explain them all to you.. no sales pitches, promise.

12-05-2007, 04:16 PM	#117
Scootermuze Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 4,513	Don't know about anyone else, but when I do revshare, it's for the volume gained over time.. If you send a paying customer, and get no commission for time purchased after 14 days, then they should say '14 day revshare' .. Wonder why they don't do that... The answer should be obvious... and yes... it's very misleading... regardless what any fine print says..

12-05-2007, 04:21 PM	#118
madfuck Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,032	hummm, idk but hey whn you find out let us all knw...

12-05-2007, 04:48 PM	#119
czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,748	how about using the pay-per-signup option instead?

12-06-2007, 05:56 AM	#123
longdongsilver Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 378	are there not any good ccbill or nats based cam sites that actually have real rev share for life?