Exactly right Quentin!

I am giving my educated and informed opinion, tainted with a dose of real life experiences and 4 years as an elected prosecutor.

Anyone that tries to push forward the notion that a producer with 2 forms of ID in his 2257 records will be arrested, charged, and imprisoned should be writing scary stories for movies, because that will not happen in real life. Someone can scream at me all day long that "A" means "one" but I guaran-damn-tee that not even the most vile, spiteful, god-fearing, porn-hating, right-wing nut job prosecutor will indict a porn producer and then try convince a jury that there was some sort of a crime committed because the producer had 2 forms of ID in his records.

I just cannot imagine a prosecutor, in front of a jury of people that really do not to be on jury duty, telling them that they need to spend the next 4 days of their lives doing civic duty to determine if 2 forms of ID in records is a federal crime when the law says "A" and "the" ID, which must mean only 1. Juries are usually intelligent creatures, and if they catch a hint that the charges are bogus, they will acquit. Federal prosecutors know this, and they also know that federal judges do not like courtroom time wasted on frivolous crap.

But then some people really need an active fantasy life to make theirs more interesting, and some lawyers want to scare you so badly that you retain them 24 hours a day just to make sure you aren't arrested and thrown into jail for jaywalking across the street at IHOP.

Aaron is right on in this thread as always and Chad too. It's always good to discuss these issues, but at least read the law for yourself for crying out loud.

Chad - will you be at the upcoming Phoenix Forum? If so, I'd love to sit down for a chat, if you have the time for one.

BTW, forgive me if we've already met and I'm just spacing it out; experience suggests that memory for names/faces is not my strong suit.

- Q.

He's mine! I saw him first. :mad:

Well we have that in common at least lol. :winkwink:

you're wrong - i already have a date with him :pimp

ONE US Issued ID (federal or State)

period

I'll take my place in line..... does Chad carry around one of those delicatessen "Take Number For Service" dispensers, by any chance?

- Q.

I allowed that because I know I'm a better cuddler than you are. You are no threat to me...Now Quentin on the other hand...He has a mean cuddle from what I've heard over the years.

I will be there; grab me in the courtyard and I would be glad to chat. For some reason I was passed over for the legal panel this year--for the first time in years. Could be that I am too outspoken and actually willing to give real advice when I am on a panel. Panelists are probably not allowed to give advice or speak contrary to pre-conceived policies, they are only supposed to promote their own programs.

EDIT....Nevermind. :glugglug

FYI, you were not the only attorney overlooked for the panel this year. For what it's worth, a little birdie told me that the person selected for this years panel has had something come up and will be unable to attend. You may still have a shot at speaking if you ask nicely. :2 cents:

frightening, isn't it? :1orglaugh

More like McDonalds -- still working for "Millions and Millions Served"

I am not good at speaking nice. I am good a brutally honest.

"Women cuddle, men spoon."

Did I really just quote Entourage? I must be getting too indiscriminate in my TV watching habits....

He told me flat out he didnt want to cuddle with me.. :Oh crap Brutally honest. :( :winkwink:

Seems that your strong point is not interpreting written words either. Not such a fine quality for an attorney. ;)

I said "ASK" nicely about speaking on the panel...Then you can be brutally honest if you like. :thumbsup


FOR THE RECORD:

Chad and I get along great. I've used his services in the past and I'm sure I will use them again in the future. Please don't take my fucking around with him to mean more than it really is.

whats all this 2257 talk?

If two "men" are cuddling then they are both fags who are acting like women. "Not that there's anything wrong with that."

So...In this case, it's all about the cuddling.

We are still on for cuddlin' though, right????? :banana

But did he tell you he doesn't want to cuddle with you because you look like a meek teenage boy and he prefers real men? Or did he leave that part out in order to preserve the attorney/client relationship and spare hurting your feelings?

FUCK YEAH!

:wetkiss

I do look like a meek teenage boy, but its starting to fade away alas... :Oh crap I think he just doesnt find me attractive. :( :1orglaugh

Could you please hit me up on ICQ, I´ve got a question for you.
#154-723-327

When we are done you better take me bowling like you promised last time!!

And I want my own room too. You know what a disaster is was trying to share a room together.

Of course I find you attractive. I just don't want to leave you in a quivering, jibbering mess like all the others. I respect you.


:1orglaugh

I always get a minimum of of two ids.

1. Photo ID

2. Birth certificate

I take a picture of the model holding the id.

I also take a copy of the ID for the files.

did you guys share a queen size bed? :1orglaugh

I said you can go bowling afterwards...I never said I would take you there.

You can have your own room. You snore too loud and are a blanket hog anyway.....But you still have to come over and make me coffee each morning.

Is there any other way to do it?

You're just a jealous bitch though........I'm onto your game.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh Well I can respect that. :winkwink:

I like that line. Imma steal it.

fucking-a right.

you see right through my facade!

:1orglaugh

wating for boy alley to drop in .....

So you're face down and ass up right now eh? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

buns up and kneeling ...

Tell people you heard it from a guy with a "reel purdy mouth"

Me thinks I should leave that part out.

Another vote for 1 id required, nowhere does it say keep 2. Specifically says 1.

as far as having a 2nd or 3rd forms, the more the merrier. Just keep them seperate and not with what they want.

What's everyones opinion on any signed documents by the models? Like the "Compliamce Form" on the FSC website.

Nowhere in 2257's text do you read that anything like that is to be kept for inspection.

The only phyisical things that I see are the following:

A list with their legal name and DOB that you OBTAINED from their ID.
A copy of that ID
A copy of the content.
A list of where the content is published.
A list of all the models names used, aliases, maiden etc etc....

(If you are a secondary producer add the primary producers name and street address to the above list.)

Hmmm?????