So, I guess ISPrime self-righteously shuts down Black Hat SEO's - GoFuckYourself.com

jasonir · 03-20-2007, 11:47 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/19/te...gy/19spam.html

Splum · 03-20-2007, 11:55 AM

*rolls eyes*

BlackCrayon · 03-20-2007, 12:00 PM

oh well, there are plenty of hosts who don't give a fuck. hell, if spyware installers can manage to stay up and fill the web full of shit blackhats should too.

HeadPimp · 03-20-2007, 12:02 PM

If they violated the acceptable use policy, then they can do that.

Besides, it is much better to risk being sued by a spammer than the Feds or one of the big companies!

AaronM · 03-20-2007, 12:03 PM

See sig.

Phoenix · 03-20-2007, 12:04 PM

is it considered illegal?

Snake Doctor · 03-20-2007, 12:05 PM

Good for them. People who use dirty tricks instead of quality content to get traffic hurt the rest of us.

PSGuru · 03-20-2007, 12:08 PM

Microsoft is on the war path http://research.microsoft.com/SearchRanger/

jasonir · 03-20-2007, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

is it considered illegal?

No it's not fucking illegal to spam search engines.

jasonir · 03-20-2007, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

See sig.

Care to explain? Obviously you had no problems profiting off of this until the press got involved.

Wizzo · 03-20-2007, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PSGuru

Microsoft is on the war path http://research.microsoft.com/SearchRanger/

Interesting stuff for sure!

jasonir · 03-20-2007, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HeadPimp

If they violated the acceptable use policy, then they can do that.

Besides, it is much better to risk being sued by a spammer than the Feds or one of the big companies!

What exactly are they going to get sued for? Making lots of web pages on their own servers? Are you TOTALLY FUCKING RETARDED?

The search engines crawl what they want to... no one forces them, or even necessarily invites them to index the pages.

teksonline · 03-20-2007, 12:46 PM

"Ultimately, it is advertisers’ money that is funding the search-spam industry, which is increasingly cluttering the Web with low-quality content and reducing Web users’ productivity,”

hahah that line cracked me up, reducing web users productivity.. rofl

Doctor Dre · 03-20-2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by teksonline

"Ultimately, it is advertisers? money that is funding the search-spam industry, which is increasingly cluttering the Web with low-quality content and reducing Web users? productivity,?

hahah that line cracked me up, reducing web users productivity.. rofl

Well that's true... sometimes you have to look 5 pages deep to get what you're looking for.

Phoenix · 03-20-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonir

No it's not fucking illegal to spam search engines.

hmm then whats the issue

maybe they had a letter sent to them from some lawyer

lots of hosts out there

vvq · 03-20-2007, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Well that's true... sometimes you have to look 5 pages deep to get what you're looking for.

that's the search engines fault. they should just fix their algorithms so relevent sites are listed first.

i can't believe a host would ban someone for SE Spamming. i won't be using ISPime anytmie soon.

deniska · 03-20-2007, 01:04 PM

We received an abuse complaint and processed it the way we would any other. In this particular instance there were several notifications of abuse including those from Microsoft from NYTimes, as well as bloggers and general surfers. The customer in question in that article was in direct violation of our acceptable use policy and was terminated. As all other hosts are, we are dependent to some degree on complaints from end users who find such abuse. We have absolutely no interest in making any profit off sites that violate our AUP, and will terminate customers who violate our AUP as soon as we are made aware of the situation.

This issue was more than just "google surfing their pages", and involved a very significant amount of blogspam/comment spam/guestbook spam, which is not quite as innocent.

ISPrime has a long track record of being anti-spam, and we consider blogspam to be the same category.

JFK · 03-20-2007, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

See sig.

NICE

Klen · 03-20-2007, 01:28 PM

That is beacuse people do pure spam-they post message "check out my site yada yada yada"which is completly unrelated to blog post or guestbook.
It's enough to make related post and you will not be classified as spammer.

WiredGuy · 03-20-2007, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by deniska

ISPrime has a long track record of being anti-spam, and we consider blogspam to be the same category.

No offense, but there's anti-spamming laws setup for email spam such as canspam. I wouldn't categorize blogspam in the same category until ammendments are made or other laws are passed.
WG

vvq · 03-20-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by deniska

This issue was more than just "google surfing their pages", and involved a very significant amount of blogspam/comment spam/guestbook spam, which is not quite as innocent.

This is just another blackhat technique. It's not illegal. But if it's in your AUP I guess it was his own fault.

baddog · 03-20-2007, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

No offense, but there's anti-spamming laws setup for email spam such as canspam. I wouldn't categorize blogspam in the same category until ammendments are made or other laws are passed.
WG

We don't need laws to tell us what is right and wrong. Spam is spam whether it be email or comment spam.

porno jew · 03-20-2007, 01:40 PM

search engines and hosts can do whatever they want with their property. can't believe their are so many socialist pigs here.

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Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Good for them. People who use dirty tricks instead of quality content to get traffic hurt the rest of us. __________________ sig too big

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03-20-2007, 12:02 PM	#4
HeadPimp Bad Mo-Fo Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 2,772	If they violated the acceptable use policy, then they can do that. Besides, it is much better to risk being sued by a spammer than the Feds or one of the big companies!

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AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	See sig.

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PSGuru Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 552	Microsoft is on the war path http://research.microsoft.com/SearchRanger/

03-20-2007, 12:46 PM	#13
teksonline So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At My Desk Posts: 2,904	"Ultimately, it is advertisers’ money that is funding the search-spam industry, which is increasingly cluttering the Web with low-quality content and reducing Web users’ productivity,” hahah that line cracked me up, reducing web users productivity.. rofl

03-20-2007, 01:04 PM	#17
deniska Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Miami Beach, FL Posts: 1,053	We received an abuse complaint and processed it the way we would any other. In this particular instance there were several notifications of abuse including those from Microsoft from NYTimes, as well as bloggers and general surfers. The customer in question in that article was in direct violation of our acceptable use policy and was terminated. As all other hosts are, we are dependent to some degree on complaints from end users who find such abuse. We have absolutely no interest in making any profit off sites that violate our AUP, and will terminate customers who violate our AUP as soon as we are made aware of the situation. This issue was more than just "google surfing their pages", and involved a very significant amount of blogspam/comment spam/guestbook spam, which is not quite as innocent. ISPrime has a long track record of being anti-spam, and we consider blogspam to be the same category.

03-20-2007, 01:28 PM	#19
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	That is beacuse people do pure spam-they post message "check out my site yada yada yada"which is completly unrelated to blog post or guestbook. It's enough to make related post and you will not be classified as spammer.

03-20-2007, 01:40 PM	#23
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	search engines and hosts can do whatever they want with their property. can't believe their are so many socialist pigs here.