50 Clean Sponsors.. SEE SIG!

That's a kickass ad. :thumbsup

Use NATS and affliate code will not be lost after that.


Serious Cash is clear and running NATS!

would you consider a sponsor who has an ATM-style descriptor and charges in $40.00 increments for their price points shady?

hypothetically speaking, of course

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I just saw many nats programs where the wm link was not carrying the code. And have plenty of other leaks, doesnt make a difference what software the site is running.

no leaks here..

Interesting thread. Were's the rest of the sponsors? This seems like a very small percentage. Maybe after a couple days we will hear from more or maybe they havent responded already because they aren't "clean" and just don't give a fuck.

Nice to see PussyCash already mentioned a few times.

Even their models are clean, like Ivory soap girls.

In reality that is rarely true. The cliché derives from the very narrow perspective that if a given transaction would legitimately earn - say - $30 and via a "trick" of some kind, that can be turned into $50, that equates to "more money".

And of course, on that single transaction it does and all those extra $20 dollars mount up to reinforce the illusion. But now compare the number of scams big enough for people to remember, against the number of regular businesses making profits year in and year out.

A few scammers think on a large scale (and are smart enough to pull something off and get away with it), but the majority are small-time, unambitious and short-sighted. How can they be anything else, when by their nature, most scams are ways to cut a bigger slice of the existing cake. Scammers rarely try to bake a bigger cake and even fail to notice when their activities make the cake smaller.

Right now quite a lot of the people center-stage in this industry use dubious methods of one kind or another. But that is less an endorsement of their tactics than because this industry is in its infancy. Check back in 5 years or so and see how many are still around...

It isn't a question of kicking anyone for the last 0.1% - it is a question of if a program says "we are clean" there shouldn't be anything that even resembles a leak. Plus I found those things right on page one, I didn't even check cookies or verify affiliate codes through all the pages.

I applaud them for going to almost the end... They can do the last little bit and be totally clear. Then they could crow about it, and it honestly would be a great selling point.

I have neither seen nor heard this said any better that that.

You nailed every point dead nuts on.

As usual.

At Video Secrets, we take pride in running a "clean" program:-)

Sadly, 5 years from now the scammers will have made their millions and moved on, and the rest of us will still be slugging it out in the trenches.

EpicCash is very clean and will count every hit for hit. feel free to audit our stats.

I'm clean, as are all the girls at 4 Real Cash :)

P1mpdog, it isn't about counting "click for click". That isn't the concept here.

I checked your tour for http://www.epiccash.com/track/track....E&SID=41&PID=S

(randomly selected from google).

Your webmaster link isn't coded (although it opens in a new window, which is nice)

Your members link, if you cancel, goes to a 401 page for camspot.

Your links to surfpartol and others open in the same window.

The camspot console you blur behind your tour doesn't credit to the webmaster.

So, no clean isn't exactly the correct words here.

Your attorney most have had a special, buy one patent, get 20 free.


Care to share your list of patent pending stuff. If you don't I wonder if that would be held against you in the case of a lawsuit.

From the sounds of it we are all infringing on your patents, so if you wont share them with us than how will i know what I am doing is violating your patent. I personally think it is only a matter of time before you flip the switch on your patents. Why else would you patent so many things if you didn't want to be like acacia and try to scare money out of people, bully them because they can't afford a lawyer. We have already seen you in action with bullying some who owned sexpays.com because you threatened to sue them because you said the name infrindged on xpays.com which is absurd.

So will you disclouse your patents and if you don;t do you think that weakens your claim we are infringing when you pull the trigger ?

i thought camspot had nothing to do with epiccash ?

I have no idea, I just call them as I see them.

http://1-dream.com/exit_pages/blur.html

that is the blur on that tour page I posted above.

we have no console tours also. thats why you get paid more on console tours.

sorry for the surfpatrol and kiddie porn links being traffic leaks. i will make sure to take those down :1orglaugh

if i put cams.com there, what does that tell you?

idiot.

hurry house nigga, get that fixed pronto :1orglaugh

You won't find sites like that advertised anywhere on BaileysRoom.com, HaydenHeart.com or any other Axis-Adult.com site. :2 cents:

We behave too. See my sig for a clean and honest sponsor!

99% of the paysites links to its affiliate program. It's a standard. You are going way to far, go out and find real leaks like a join page link with no code on it, a refresh or simple affiliate id removal from the url would make the affiliate lose its credit :2 cents:

Island Dollars <-- Zero traffic leaks

Affiliate tours
Joon Mali
Asha Kumara
Lily Koh

There isn't one single traffic leak on our tours. Feel free to check :)

Two gay gay sponsors are clean for sure:

Intensecash
Blueloot

:pimp clean and convert like crazy! see sig!:thumbsup :pimp

Click the member's login on the tour.
http://whatafreak.com/index_no.html?...1174310451n448
click cancel sends you to another site with another linking code...
:(
you're not as clean as you tought. I suggest a good soap and dish cloth :1orglaugh

Other than the webmaster's linking code not working at
http://www.lilykoh.com/tour2/index.p...OjI6Mg,0,0,0,0
(http://nats.islanddollars.com/track/%3C?=($_GET['nats']?$_GET['nats']:'MDowOjM')?%3E/)
you're site looks really cool... congrats!

shouldnt be a single leak on any quickbuck tour. if anybody finds one we'd love to know so we can plug it.

let me make a few points, the line drawn is subjective, and by scam, i was not only referring to the huge blow-outs like xpics that are cemented in peoples minds, but in the common little tricks you mentioned in your first paragraph

2 prechecked crossells, in some cases with little to no information on how to cancel anything other than the initial sale. bear in mind that the crossell information does not get translated for foreign surfers, so they have no idea what that is, or if its any different than the opt-in "i am 18 or older" txt

companies have done this for years and continue to do so, i can name 10 off the top of my head right now

10 step, non-intuative cancellation process

a sponsor that pays on trials, but makes their trials impossible to cancel until after the first rebill

just a few examples, all those people are still around and they will be years from now.

ive learned that there is not always justice in this world. i used to thing that people that do scams will get caught and stop. ive learned, in most cases, that not to be true. if they have to, they change, they make arguments, and they do what they have to to stay in business, but they stay

the problem is that i like business, and those are the big cats, so im not willing to name names :)

we are fucking spotless www.starlightbucks.com ... all affiliate links carry your code too ... and your surfers can browse through our family of sites at the bottom of all of our tours, and yes, your unique code carries endlessly through all of them.

we are dirty....

That would make for a good t-shirt slogan.

It doesn't really have much to do with justice, people getting caught, etc. And sometimes there is a fine line between a scam and legitimately pushing the envelope. There will always be people doing both.

The fundamental difference is one of attitude. I think almost everyone who approaches their business with the belief that the sky is the limit and he/she is capable of taking the ride, will tell you that the big picture comes first and that in a sense, the details fall into place naturally. Scammers, just to keep using a convenient term, are small-minded and unambitious because the details are their business. They have no big picture except to keep milking whatever they have for as long as it lasts.

Which isn't to say they never make any money, only that what they achieve will almost always be relatively limited and usually quite short-lived. When scammers are caught, in theory they could change and a handful do. But it comes back to that attitude thing again. Most who go that route in the first place, don't have it in them to go any other route. And in many ways it's a tougher route, because every time a scam has run its course, there has to be another to replace it, you likely can't make a profit any other way. All a straight business has to do, is keep on doing whatever it is doing.

James, just because webmasters in the past have tolerated this ongoing traffic leak, there is no reason it should be tolerated going forward. Quite simply, it is MY traffic, I should get paid for it, no matter what it does (at least up to any exit consoles).

It is a low percentage number, but what does it hurt the program to have it coded with my affiliate link? To me that would just show a program working hard to make sure everything is 100% for their affiliates.

Pussycash is the cleanest one for sure...

Pussycash has always been a clean and fair company and we never had any problem with the tracking system and it has been working very well.

If you think you have any problem you are welcome to do a test or contact our reps.

Feel free to check out WEGCash! We're clean and our sites convert! :thumbsup

if... if.... if....


So you sell 404 traffic off of your site to another site?

we are 100% clean,
We also have a leak free tour option in our WM area

jayeff wanted to know your thoughts on this post
https://gfy.com/12101309-post21.html

from this thread
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/596416-cookies.html

I tried out what was talked about with my links and got the same thing.

Seems if they want to be clean they should fix this :)

Adult Lounge is as clean as a whistle (a new whistle of course because a used whistle probably isn't really all that clean).

Certainly... although as per a post I made earlier in this thread, it's a shame so many are focused more on ripping into those who are almost clean than on congratulating them for setting a good example.

It's not that I don't agree with someone who replied before, that it would be good to see all these guys taking the last few steps. But we have had a lot of - often long - threads lately on some of the current "tricks". It has become really difficult to keep track of who hasn't shown up in them and I know I could use a simple reference :)

To be honest I feel bad that some of the people who are way ahead in the "doing the right thing" stakes have ended up getting knocked. A couple of self-promos in this thread are close to taking the p*ss, but otherwise these are the good guys for now at least.

Well, Jayeff, with due respect, why not post up say 5 good examples to the types of traffic leaks that bother you? Rather than beating around the bush and not naming names, why not get to it and take some clean shots. Obviously the programs that you think are fudging it aren't going to come charging into this thread.

My personal issue is that there are programs calling "clean" that aren't totally clean - but they are a version of clean that for some dumbass reason affiliates are suppose to accept because "it's the norm".

Anyway, so who is on your shitlist? Cite some examples!

My intention is not to bash them for doing a good job. It is hard to congratulate a sponsor for good work when I see my affiliate id disappearing on yes a more minor of an issue. But now we are commending sponsors that are almost clean and not holding them accountable for the small stuff. Seems to me all should be evaluated and when the are clean; they are clean; before that they can continue to make changes until they are. I am with you that their should be more focus on the really bad ones though as well, but just wanted to explain why I was posting what I did.

Also I made an error above and used their instead of there lol. Wanted to add there is a chance with the issue of the members login issue that the sponsor does not realize it is a potential problem. I guess it is best just to inform them and see what they do :)