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Old 08-09-2002, 07:49 AM   #1
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Busty Amateurs 2?!?!

I just saw an ad on this page for busty2.com ... can you believe it? The tour isn't as nice as the original... some photos don't even load and the girls don't seem to be as good. Also, the payout is 60%, so now that's how much recurring you will lose when Busty2 takes a dive as welll
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Old 08-09-2002, 07:50 AM   #2
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typical 12 post newbie bullshit
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Old 08-09-2002, 01:52 PM   #3
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Great lets all put up thousands of links so he can pull the partnership program without telling us again.

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Old 08-09-2002, 01:55 PM   #4
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This program is run by a completely different crew. Trust me these guys are not going anywhere.
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Old 08-09-2002, 02:39 PM   #5
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Busty 2 is in NO WAY affiliated with Busty-Amateurs despite
anything you may have heard.

I am the ONLY former partner of BA, I ran the entire marketing
from 1998 till it closed. I had no control over that.

On another note, check their content, its not to nice


Thats all I got to say about that.

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Old 08-09-2002, 02:48 PM   #6
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Old 08-09-2002, 02:59 PM   #7
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Just my
I have worked for Busty2.com for more than 9 months now and in that time i have seen some crap posted about the old site Busty-Amateurs,
and how Jeff let everyone down. Well these are my thoughts as an insider. First Jeff has nothing to do with Busty2, Gavin has
nothing to do with Busty2. The only person from BA who is involved with Busty2 is Phil their photographer who shot for them
from 2000 until the last day on the web which was exactly one year ago to-day. We did have a guy that worked on updates for Busty-Amateurs but he left, moved out of San Diego some months ago.

Busty2 opened just 5 days after BA closed on the 14th of August 2001 and is almost a year old.
The owner of Busty2 and his partners have been in XXX photographic content sales for more than 20 years and he is going to
be in the adult business for many years to come.
As far as we know Jeff had some very serious reasons for closing Busty-Amateurs. He was an honest guy as was Gavin and i
am positive they would not have closed down and left all you webmasters without a substantial income without a real good
reason. After all they had 16,000 members and with that membership they must have been making a tidy amount ?

So we (Busty2.com) are listening to our members and adding new gallery's, new areas. and a ton of content to help increase
our retention and sign up ratios, we have increased the pay out to webmasters to 60% and are in the process of zipping up
dozens of new gallery's for our webmaster promotions. As things stand we have about 12 months worth of updates for the members area all ready
to upload to our servers. But Phil, Jeff and Terry are still shooting away adding more hard-core, titty fucking, oral , as
requested by our members. Also a load of new video clips

One thing you will not find it anyone from B2 posting crap about other sites, we never have, its unprofessional and
unproductive. You will find that the better sites concentrate on their content and promotions and looking after their webmasters
which leaves little time to do much else.

Anyway that's all i have to say, if you wish to promote Busty2, then great we are committed to looking after our webmasters for
many years to come, if not well we wish you success with who ever you decide to promote.
Have a great weekend guys
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Old 08-09-2002, 02:59 PM   #8
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Busty 2 is in NO WAY affiliated with Busty-Amateurs despite
anything you may have heard.

I am the ONLY former partner of BA, I ran the entire marketing
from 1998 till it closed. I had no control over that.

On another note, check their content, its not to nice


Thats all I got to say about that.

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Old 08-09-2002, 03:25 PM   #9
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Can someone tell me why they closed down and walked away from a site with 16,000 members?

That's nearly $50k a month coming in.
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Old 08-09-2002, 03:26 PM   #10
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Can someone tell me why they closed down and walked away from a site with 16,000 members?

That's nearly $50k a month coming in.
Jeff found God
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Old 08-09-2002, 03:30 PM   #11
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Can someone tell me why they closed down and walked away from a site with 16,000 members?

That's nearly $50k a month coming in.
I think there memberships cost more 3.50 a month
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Old 08-09-2002, 05:58 PM   #12
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When you launching XPics 2, scamcash, and F-U-realgoodcash?

Seriously though I remember when you launched this last year, WHY WHY WHY take the name of a program that just went tits up?
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Old 08-09-2002, 06:01 PM   #13
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I would STAY FAR AWAY from Busty Amateurs 2..



Busty Amateurs #1 was a TITANIC and we all know how that story ends and did end.
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Old 08-09-2002, 06:17 PM   #14
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can someone tell me why IBILL is the backup processor??
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Old 08-09-2002, 06:20 PM   #15
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i joined, igot my links
http://secure.ibill.com/cgi-win/ccar...www.busty2.com

and the processor that is primary is epoch and not ibill
what kind of billing is this?
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Old 08-09-2002, 06:21 PM   #16
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ibill is the backup processor probably because of their high fraud claims.. usually ibill gets blocked by credit cards cause they deal with so much fuckin fraud. youll probably find ccbill or epoch as the primary because they arent as large as ibill...
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Old 08-09-2002, 07:01 PM   #17
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Seriously though I remember when you launched this last year, WHY WHY WHY take the name of a program that just went tits up?
Probably because of those 16,000 members.
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Old 08-09-2002, 07:05 PM   #18
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ibill is the backup processor probably because of their high fraud claims.. usually ibill gets blocked by credit cards cause they deal with so much fuckin fraud. youll probably find ccbill or epoch as the primary because they arent as large as ibill...
yes,no problem with it, but how am i getting credit for the epoch signups? I think i'm not getting
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Old 08-09-2002, 07:12 PM   #19
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I think there memberships cost more 3.50 a month
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Old 08-09-2002, 08:34 PM   #20
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Let me try to answer a few of your questions, first if a webmaster joins and goes to the banner page they will find the code
supplied by IBILL for their program, below that is the URL to aim the banner or text link . This is the page the code is on
(http://www.busty2.com/webmasters/banners.html ). We did this so that our partners who join the revshare program have a
tour that goes to IBILL as the main processor with just Globill as a back up.
Why use IBILL well its simple even though we have a lot of problems with their CMI the one thing that they do above all others
is pay on time, every two weeks for the past year hardly a day late . That is important to you and to us. We have webmasters
all over the world and so far no complaints about timely payouts.

The main tour which is the std http://www.busty2.com is for all other traffic and promotions
We use Epoch as the main processor here because we have no problems at all with members who join using them and that is
80% of all our members. But with IBILL the problems just keep on coming ? We are thinking of changing or even adding the
Epoch rev share program if enough people request it.

As for why we used Busty2, simple Busty-Amateurs did not go belly up they didn't sink they closed down at probably their most
successful time, so it made sense to carry on with a name that is associated with success and local natural San Diego babes.
Had they gone into liquidation then it would not have been a very wise move.

To finish if any webmaster is having problems or needs help we are available 7 days a week 12 hours a day and will get back
to you within a few hours to answer your questions. We are attending the Internext and will be back in the office on Monday.



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Old 08-09-2002, 10:00 PM   #21
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Webmaster B 2..

YOUR A FUCKING IDIOT!!!

YOUR FULL OF SHIT>> AND YOU CAN KISS MY ASS!

I KNOW THIS IS YOU PHIL!

You fucking COPY everything I do.. get your own site
and STOP fucking copying my site and ripping off BA!


Guess What, I shot Erica Rose yesterday, Daizie and Aria
are at MY BOOTH!

Why do these models bad mouth you ?

Hmm.. your a FUCKING LIAR!!

Also,.. I LIKE TO BAD MOUTH SHIT TALKERS LIKE YOU
YOU WHO USE MY FUCKING NAME TO GET AHEAD!!!!!!


Yes, I am sure you will all bitch about this post.. but you
know what.. WE ARE KICKING ASS AT THIS SHOW!

OUR PROMO GEAR IS EVERWHERE!!!

Oh, you were NOT THE MAIN PHOTOGRAPHER>>
ANOTHER LIE!


Cheers..

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Old 08-09-2002, 10:05 PM   #22
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This keeps up, im gonna have some new catfighting video
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Old 08-09-2002, 10:10 PM   #23
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HA!

I like this shit.. especially after a long day handing
out PROMO GEAR!

And, a lot of beer

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Old 08-09-2002, 10:11 PM   #24
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Hey JR, i heard you had a bunch of promo gear at the show, can you confirm that?
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Personally i don't know who the fuck you are and i think you will find that Busty2 was at the Internext last January 2001 so how
is that copying you. You are the one that seems to be full of shit who ever the fuck you are. Oh and Phil is in the UK at the
moment due back Tomorrow evening at around 6 pm
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Yes, we do.. we handed out a shitload of stuff
today.. we will run out tomorrow.

We went to some parties tonight, our shit was EVERYWHERE!

If you want some let me know.. so I can set some aside!
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Old 08-09-2002, 10:15 PM   #27
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GIVE ME PROMO GEAR NOW
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Old 08-09-2002, 10:16 PM   #28
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Ok..

Thats not what I am talking about, who cares
if he WASTED money on the show.

Check around, you'll see what I mean.


Ok, I start a newsletter.... he starts one.

I get a NATURAL DDD Model.. he claims to have one.

I start a webmaster newsletter...he starts one.

I add processors... he add processors.

I run a contest... he starts a madeup one..

get the clue ???


There is a reason the real Busty-Amateurs made
over $450,000 a month...when it closed.

Guess what, I ran the marketing and webmaster program
from day 1 to the day it closed!


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Phil has never talked about you or your website and has nothing to do with that side of the business. He just shoots pictures, i have never heard of you or your site and i come up with ideas for Busty2 So you are saying i am copying your site ?
I was told the Internext show in January was a great success for B2.
But if you can prove any of this crap you are talking put it in writing our address is on the site.

I wont hold my breath waiting. Sounds to me like someone is very worried !!!
My suggestion is get on with your own shit,
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Yeah Yeah.. whatever.

Not worried one bit.. just like fucking with you
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Ok this made me laugh out loud.
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why did you close the program if it was bringing 450k a month ?
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why did you close the program if it was bringing 450k a month ?
J.R. did not close Busty-Amateurs.com

Jeff & Gavin closed it. Simple as that. I know, I was working for em when they closed. And NOONE knew it was going to happen, it just did, they kept VERY tight lipped about it.....
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J.R. did not close Busty-Amateurs.com

Jeff & Gavin closed it. Simple as that. I know, I was working for em when they closed. And NOONE knew it was going to happen, it just did, they kept VERY tight lipped about it.....

that doesnt explain WHY it shutdown...thats like if we woke up tomorrow and GFY was a NAACP site...whats the logic behind it?creative differences? should have just sold it...explain please
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To be honest there were 5 different stories running around, but no concrete reason was given to anyone, to my knowlegde, just second rate hearsay!

Really sucks cause I would like to know.
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Ahhhh another busty amateurs dick measuring contest, damn I love drama....

Nocostporn, your question has already been answered in this thread, Jeff (the guy who owned BA) found God, and decided to close the site. Several people offered to buy him out but he felt the "holy" thing to do would be to destroy all of the porn and close the site down, and he literally had a fire and burned all the CD's that the content was on.


Hey JR, could you save me 2 of each thing your giving away? You can send them to me when you send me my DVD player for the 150 signups
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why did you close the program if it was bringing 450k a month ?
the god answer given is the correct one. but there are many reasons to shut down very large sites. making more money than you'll every need from online porn, and wanting to finally exit 100 h work weeks - is one of them.

also, selling a very large paysite developed on exclusive content is a very complicated thing.
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YOUR A FUCKING IDIOT!!!
lol

typical case of the pot/kettle.
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also, selling a very large paysite developed on exclusive content is a very complicated thing.

so when you head out are you going to sell your site(s) off or give the reigns to... me?
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lol

typical case of the pot/kettle.

hahahaaha
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It seems J.R. doesn't like competition


Ohh and webmasterb2 you might wanna fix those bad cropped pics on the tour.
They are resized wrong and look squeezed.
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so when you head out are you going to sell your site(s) off or give the reigns to... me?
maybe sell (but what a headache) or maybe just hand things over to one of my favorite right-wing fundamentalist charities...
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I need ADVIL!


Adidas is very correct, the entire GOD theory was
started by me. I told a few people and the next thing you
knew GOD was born...lol

oh well, Jeff went to my wedding about a 2 weeks before
the site closed, he was telling me about that great churches
he went to in Spain.

Jeff's g/f is big into church... thats all it took. He was very unstable
towards the last year of BA.

I am very upset about people loosing money, I lost the 3rd most
of all webmasters, 13-15k a month in recurring.

My thoughts.. Busty 2 shoots 35mm thats part of the problemo
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http://www.busty2.com/kiratourimage.html
How did you get this girl she's a former danish stripper

http://kiraeggers.com/
this is her official site
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