Sounds like Donny is spreading it on thick since leaving GFY...

In one news article I read, Donny is reported to have made "$500,000 a year" producing porn. The legend of his income keeps getting bigger...

Donny is just one of several speakers, but he says he gets $2,000 per speaking event plus expenses. In the same article that stated Donny was pulling down a half-million a year in adult, it talks about a Porn and Pancakes event which drew about 200 people at $8 a head.

That would put the gross for that event at about $1,600. From that Donny was paid $2,000?!?

I heard one 10+ minute interview with Donny and he never brought up "The Game". He also didn't correct them when he was descibed as "one of the world's greatest porn producers".

In a ********* podcast, which apparently was Donny's unedited 20+ minute Porn and Pancakes "Dog and Pony" show, there is not a single mention about Donny and "The Game" (even though a huge slide is projected in the background that shows Donny, Belinda and Spannow in front of a Playboy mansion sign).

Donny never mentions that he also appeared in some porno movies that he shot, or about how much he lied to his ex-wife - instead they present a sanitized Donny, and he is lauded as a great family guy. No mention of his abuse of Belinda or drunken meltdowns is provided.

In his blogs, Donny tries to make readers believe that most girls in the industry have STDs, and that their lives are ruined by being in porn ("almost every model" he came into contact with near the end of his porn life he states). That's funny - I've had a few models express mild regrets about people learning about their modeling, but not even they said that their lives were ruined as a result of being involved in the adult industry (and I've worked with well over 100 models).

Donny's new self-proclaimed mission is to take away the fantasy underlying porn. He said at Porn and Pancakes that his brother quit working for him, because porn lost it's allure after seeing it from behind the scenes - he didn't mention that in his old blog, as I recall, he fired his brother because he kept hitting on the models.

To me it appears that Donny's just trying to cash in on his old career by bashing on the industry for $$$...

This gives some indication of what Donny has been up to. Half-truths sprinkled with lies, lies, and more lies. A shining example of Christianity...

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When I spoke to him. he expressed to me that he dosnt hate porn or want to bring it down. He wants to help the ones that want help from it...

Now i personally havent heard these podcasts or ANY of his speeches .... but this is what he told me personally.

guess that's how he made the 'up to 1/2 mil a year' he brags about in his 'talks' we all lost out that did biz with donny

Donny is deluding himself as he is trying to delude others.

The organization he is working with/for is anti-porn. They use an unusual approach, but their mission and message is in fact anti-porn (********* doesn't even approve of masurbation).

He can try and spin it any way he might, but he certainly isn't promoting porn, nor even neutral towards it, because the foundation of his message is anti-porn.

Donny's Porn and Pancakes presentation is full of half-truths and lies (outright lies and lies by omission).

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Donny might be my new hero. Here we all are trying to figure out how to avoid the christian right and sell porn to people that want it. Meanwhile, Donny has figured out a way to sell it right to the church.

Just make some porn sites, tell them you are sorry and charge them to tell them how bad you are. it's brilliant.

:bowdown $$$

I don't know who are the bigger sheep. Creationists or people on GFY that think the Bible is meant to be taken literally.

wow, 2K a pop. I need to get on that bus.

Exactly... A great guide, but thats about it

People need to stop and think for just a minute. Like, how long ago did we figure out what dinosaurs were? Even that has changed in the short time we have known about them.

How long ago did the concept of evolution come to being? What do you think would have happened 1,000 years ago if you went around telling people we came from apes?


http://www.filmtahoe.com/asp/photos/...ckQuarry13.jpg


Hell, they stone people for a lot less even today back in those parts.

huh? science is 'all faith'? :1orglaugh

personally i can't see any need for religion unless you are some kind of weak minded person who needs a reason or an afterlife to feel better about their current shitty life because, does it really matter what came before or after this life? do you need religion to treat people with respect and do the right things in life? i surely hope not. why do people need religion? to fill a void? i just don't get it. i believe in the idea of a higher power but some people let it control their lives so much.

and science is faith? faith is defined as belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence which is not what science is at all. sure many theories will be debunked but thats that is major difference, science allows for the evolution of ideas whereas religion is stuck, new ideas are viewed as blasphemous.

well since everything you reference here are just made up ideas why not think for yourself? sylvia brown is just the worst though, she is a con artist who goes on talk shows and pretends to talk to be psychic.

From hanna and her sisters:
"If Jesus ever came back and heard all the things said in his name. He would never be able to stop throwing up."

First he would cast Donny into the burning pit...what a hypocrite...still...

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I believe everything I read . . that's what makes me special

religion = biggest business in the world.

I never said Christianity is wrong, I said that things don't make sense to me. Why would a God create this world and have it sit with sludge, plants, and eventually other animals for hundreds of millions of years before putting us on it? Why would he go through millions of years of evolution to finally get the final product? Why would he create this massive universe with stars and planets? It just seems like a lot of unnecessary work.

I'm not saying there is no higher power. I still don't understand how the "big bang" could just happen out of nothing.

As for taking the bible literally, that is what a lot of Christian leaders do. Whether it's finding obscure passages in the bible to condemn homosexuality or something else that is being preached about, there are people out there doing it all the time. When science disproves something that is in the bible, they come out and say it is not meant to be interpreted literally. I just think that too many Christians pick and choose what should be taken literally and what shouldn't.

Very good post. :thumbsup

I'm of the opinion that the days of the age old divisions between science and religion are finally coming to an end as we move forward into a more knowledgable and enlightened era. Thank fuck the spirit of openmindedness survived all the shit thats been thrown at it over the centuries and it has got us this far, for without it I really hate to think what this world would be like today.

He has no reason to hate porn, without it, they're out of business.

I also have no problem with helping those with problems. Like gambling, alcohol, etc, porn can be addictive and can cause problems for some people. I think the stereotype they try to portray of the community is bad however. Most guys in the industry are normal guys and I don't think suffer from some horrible emptiness.

But I guess I just wonder if there are better things out there to save people from. I know they found a good niche market to target and business will do well, but I just think there are much bigger problems in this world than someone looking at some titty pics. With people across the world starving and dying from disease, I find it hard that God would rather see these guys dedicate their lives to making sure some guy doesn't run up his credit card at BangBus.com.

now it all makes sense. Just like the rest of those guys!

When Donny was "Donny" on GFY, doing his born-again act, I was rather critical of him - however when he stopped posting here, I stopped posting about him as well (even though many others started threads about him and continued to bash him).

So today Donny e-mails me (even after I politely requested for him to stop doing so some time ago), and suddenly it occurs to me, that he is lying now more, as a supposedly born-again Christian, than he ever did as a pornographer.

At least he supposedly told prospective models the truth, whereas he sugar coats his own background now to look good in front of the Christian audiences that he now craves attention/money from.

In my view, he is involved in a more sleazy enterprise currently, than he ever was when he was in the adult biz.

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Here is the problem. Whether you want to believe it or not the various faiths have formed our socities belief structure today. There is no way around. You can say we'd all be better off without religion, but where we're at today is a result of religion. You can say you didn't grow up in a religious environment and that it's done nothing for you. But it's a fact that religion has played a vital role in shaping our current society and what we believe to be right and wrong today. It doesn't matter if you're not actively involved with a religion or believe in it. You interact with people and the world. It has helped shape what you believe in.

as for science, for the hell of it i'll throw out a glaring obvious argument that i've seen used before. show me a math equation that proves love exists. it's something most of us know is real, but it cannot be proven to anyone but yourself. and then only through experience.

i don't really want to get into arguments about science. it ends up in a never ending philosophical circle.

Still just wanting to be snyde or something. Its blatantly obvious with everything here ive posted that thinking for myself is exactly what Im doing, pudlick. I dont go to church, I search out my own belief. So I have read MANY sources on what they say... I take what I want....I have put hours of time in on my own though,...I have talked to people on how they feel....what else is that.

Please, think before typing...sound like you know what even you are saying.

GET OFF THIS FUCKING BOARD.

How Donny made supposedly $500,000 per year:

http://www.donovanphillips.com/galle...Set03-0087.JPG

Instead of projecting the photo of himself, Belinda, and Spannow, at the Playboy Mansion (with no explanation), at his Porn and Pancakes shakedowns, Donny should show what he was really like during his porn period:

http://www.jonesy.info/images/donnymakeup.jpg

http://www.number1nastyphonesex.com/...nypreacher.jpg

He should also talk about watching his girlfriend have sex in front of him and insert some of the porn clips he shot of himself appearing in night vision porn, and cumming in a girl's face too - instead of posing as a sanitized version of "the world's greatest pornographer", who was never in the action himself, which is a lie.

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You do know that this is a picture that I altered and gave him the collar, right? Thats why you always hotlink it out of my personal pictures directory?

Not that I care...just verifying youre aware, its a photochop

Thanks for the clarification - without the chop, he no longer looks like a drunk gay priest, but simply a drunk gay dude.

That would no doubt be a much better image for the congregations he gets paid to speak in front of, to gaze upon. But that is not the photo, nor image of himself that he tries to project. :winkwink:

No, instead he used a photo of himself, Belinda and Spannow at the Playboy Mansion (without explanation about their "Game", even though it apparently played a major role in his meltdown/conversion), rather than one of the above photos.

I realize Donny is a friend of yours, even though he does in fact speak out and is against the industry you are in, whether you care to believe it or not.

Excuse me for not buying into Donny's lies...if you will supply a photo from one of Donny's sex videos, I'll replace your chop with it...

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This is the same Donnie that pimped out his own cousin to me... The guy is (and has always been) a fucking joke of the industry. Let me just remind everyone, I CALLED IT EARLY!

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It's really frightening that this guy is going around violating the privacy of people he used to work with and using their images in his presentation without their permission. He has no idea whether or not there are crazies and stalkers in his audience; incidentally, quite a few of these stalking assholes and crazies come out of the fundamentalist christian movement : think abortion clinic bombings and murders. All it takes is one nutjob to obsess a little to much about the "filthy pornographers, something needs to be done about it." I don't know Belinda or Spannow, but if it were me I would talk to my attorney about some sort of action to stop him from using my image in his presentations to these groups.

:2 cents:

For some reason that is left out of his paid sermons/anti-porn testimony, as is his claim that his Pastor father wanted to view photos Donny took of girls from his congregation, and Donny's revelation that his father-in-law helped spark his interest in porn by showing him images he shot of Donny's mother-in-law.

Being born-again must cause selective amnesia...

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What if the creepy-morbidly obese-sweating-perverted speaker IS the stalker...?!

:helpme :helpme :helpme

Donny apparently lost some weight recently, hopefully he is letting Belinda move on with her life in peace...

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now that is amazing . . .

peeps pulling secret messages from a book are libel to do just about anything . .

LOLOL GOLD!!!

It seems to be that Donny has become exactly what it is he used to rant and rave against on this very board. Bravo Donny, for showing everyone what a true hypocrite is.

It is, religion is the only business where the customers are brainwashed since their birth and dont know any better. It's also the only business where customers have nothing to gain unlike all other businesses; they are being sold hot air that they believe is real because of mentioned thorough brainwashing from their birth to present.

The customers are pathetic people that you can not blame, since they don't know better. The sellers are the scum of the earth. It's the only business where good faith of people gets exploited with lies and fairy tales, only for the pockets of the salesmen.

So yes, the reli-business is the sleaziest business ever. Religion sellers, like the people who work at churches etc, are less than shit to me, they're the biggets scum that walks on this planet.

Seems like Donny got some sweet press to feed his new little enterprise... He's featured on several of the big-time press snippets that the ********* has gotten over the last little while. The Featured Videos section on their site says it all :P

they need each other desperately . . as long as they keep joy-boy away from the $$$ they should do fine . . the problems won't really start until he branches out with his own congregation . . which he will do . . not enough fame and glory playing second fiddle to the xxx church . . we're talking 'kool aid' here

At this point nothing would surprise me.

Been calling him this from day one.

The problem with born-agains is the brain damage during rebirth.

You are all making lil baby jesus ( in his lil baby manger) cry something fierce

where is the pic of donny wearing lipstick

Wait a minute now....You're trying to say that Donny ABUSED that woman? I can't stand how a woman will bring up abuse for shits and giggles with no proof whatsoever and nare one police report.

He needs to molest some kids then he will be a true Christian.

Thats catholic dude :P if a christian does it, they are just a sick fucker...

Its not socially accepted like catholics