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Old 03-12-2007, 06:57 AM   #1
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Banksy - Art or Crime?

really conflicted over this. Very hard not to laugh but I own buildings and i hate when the little fuckers deface them.

http://banksy.co.uk/
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Old 03-12-2007, 07:03 AM   #2
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I'd rather see that than the generic tags I get on our building.
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Old 03-12-2007, 07:12 AM   #3
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I'd rather see that than the generic tags I get on our building.
Seriously the guy rocks. But if you have ever had to remove paint it is a real pain in the ass.
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Old 03-12-2007, 07:14 AM   #4
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Crime!

If it was art no-one would care.......
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True true, but it's a really good 'art' job, it may not have to be removed...however removing a tag from the wall results in having a new tag within a week.
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Old 03-12-2007, 07:25 AM   #6
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I'm not a fan of graffiti but I'd have to say art in this case. Lot of powerful messages in his paintings.
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Old 03-12-2007, 08:59 AM   #7
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Old 03-12-2007, 09:11 AM   #8
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i like graf, more into the pieces and characters... even the tags

although, not so much the stenciling.. gets kinda boring seeing the same fucking stencil all over the city.. i think its kinda weak.

although the detailed like 5 layer stencils are great... takes time

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Old 03-12-2007, 09:27 AM   #9
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It's just a fucking stencil sprayed onto walls. So fucking what. The guy doesn't really interest me
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Old 03-12-2007, 09:35 AM   #10
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It's both. The artistic value doesn't take away from the fact that it's illegal.

Still, I love Banksy's work.
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Old 03-12-2007, 09:43 AM   #11
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art can also be a crime
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Old 03-12-2007, 10:45 AM   #12
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Damn the naysayers...I love that guy.
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Old 03-12-2007, 03:34 PM   #13
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Banksy is brilliant.. love the Paris Hilton CD scam he pulled
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Banksy is a hero of modern day sorts. He speaks out against the wrongs. I love the stunts he pulls to shine light on current issues. Good for him. Also like the cloak and dagger style interviews he gives. He's like a super hero protecting his true identity.
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its not real graff if it uses stencils, any idiot can do that.
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I vote art - I really like his stuff
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its not real graff if it uses stencils, any idiot can do that.
Nope they can't.
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its not real graff if it uses stencils, any idiot can do that.
Art isn't about how it's done, it's about the message and the presentation.
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One of his pieces went for over £50,000 recently at Bonhams.

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art 100%

I think his stuff is amazing, lots of thought and deep meanings to it all, i like that

there is so many crimes out there that hurt and cheat and steal and make peoples lives miserable, death everywhere....and some guy spray paints som clever art on walls and people spend so much time on it
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its not real graff if it uses stencils, any idiot can do that.
stencils are a form of graffiti now
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Old 03-12-2007, 08:40 PM   #25
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art or crime? both.
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its not real graff if it uses stencils, any idiot can do that.
I need some stencils done up... can you make me something like this and throw it up on a wall in isreal? K thx!

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its not real graff if it uses stencils, any idiot can do that.
Really? Do you have any clue how difficult it is to make a decent stencil, let alone the complex stencils that he makes? Besides, he does stuff aside from stencils.

And graffiti is leaving your mark on a place that wasn't intended to be marked. Stencils, tags, pieces, it doesn't matter.
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I still don't really care for what he does. Tho he's made me chuckle in the past. I still don't think he's doing anything that anyone listens to. Or at least, that changes anything.
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I still don't really care for what he does. Tho he's made me chuckle in the past. I still don't think he's doing anything that anyone listens to. Or at least, that changes anything.
Why does he need to change anything? He makes people think, which is a lot more than 99% of graffiti artists out there can say for themselves. Hell, most traditional artists can't even say that for themselves.
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I still don't really care for what he does. Tho he's made me chuckle in the past. I still don't think he's doing anything that anyone listens to. Or at least, that changes anything.
actually, every time he creates a piece there is social commentary on the piece that is presented with every article about that piece

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But in a town that takes its animal welfare very seriously, some took exception to the presence of the elephant. On entering, visitors were presented with a flyer reading: 'There's an elephant in the room. There's a problem we never talk about. The fact is that life isn't getting any fairer. 1.7 billion people have no access to clean drinking water. 20 billion people live below the poverty line. Every day hundreds of people are made to physically be sick by morons at art shows telling them how bad the world is but never actually doing something about it. Anybody want a free glass of wine?'
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But in a town that takes its animal welfare very seriously, some took exception to the presence of the elephant. On entering, visitors were presented with a flyer reading: 'There's an elephant in the room. There's a problem we never talk about. The fact is that life isn't getting any fairer. 1.7 billion people have no access to clean drinking water. 20 billion people live below the poverty line. Every day hundreds of people are made to physically be sick by morons at art shows telling them how bad the world is but never actually doing something about it. Anybody want a free glass of wine?'
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Really? Do you have any clue how difficult it is to make a decent stencil, let alone the complex stencils that he makes? Besides, he does stuff aside from stencils.

And graffiti is leaving your mark on a place that wasn't intended to be marked. Stencils, tags, pieces, it doesn't matter.
Yes i know how easy it is to make any stencil from a picture, transfered onto a piece of plastic and have it heat pressed out for precision.

yes I know how easy it is to make 3 different layers and place 1 over another and spray.

I'll agree on the second part.
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