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porno jew · 03-10-2007, 09:21 PM

contact spacedog i know he runs some solo girl sites already.

RedShoe · 03-10-2007, 09:22 PM

Lika19 · 03-10-2007, 09:22 PM

Ok guys, you talk to Tuga and I'll look at all the offers with him soon. Time to get some sleep, I have to shoot more content in the morning.

Tuga · 03-10-2007, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RedShoe

You missed

cj_purve · 03-10-2007, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lika19

Yes.

I hear even porn webmasters get into solid relations sometimes.

LMAO

I so hope you are exactly as you claim and not some dude pretending ... because if you are for real, you rock

An ex stripper with a boyfriend who knows how to handle WANKERS. Oh you'll go far for sure if you can get the right deal ;-)

If you are legit, this is a perfectly natural way to have put yourself forward so don't listen to the peanut gallery.

As MikeVega said, how is he getting screwed if he ends up with rights to content of the same value as what he's spent, and he doesn't have to pay much of it up front? Its just like buying content ... as long as the agreement is signed, the risk is very contained.

I would be interested in talking more to you but I'm in Australia & like to shoot the content myself so we are probably not the right fit, but I do hope you work something out with MikeVega & his crew ... ask around, you'll hear good stuff.

Good luck

Tuga · 03-11-2007, 03:33 AM

Quick question to you guys. What's the standard number of pics per set, and what's the resolution you use for member's area pics?

jakethedog · 03-11-2007, 03:38 AM

Hit me up ASAP.. i will give you the best deal out there and am launching with 10 sites anyday here ..

Danas1 · 03-11-2007, 03:38 AM

nice pics, nice job. Not a bad offer

Mutt · 03-11-2007, 04:16 AM

clusterfuck waiting to happen probably but what solo girl isn't a clusterfuck waiting to happen - whether she's 5,000 miles across the ocean or 2 blocks away from you

she looks pretty good in the pics so ..... if some webmaster is willing to risk a couple of grand to see if she can follow through with getting enough content togethe to get things rolling r i don't see it as much of a risk if 2 grand isn't going to make a difference in your life if u lose it.

50/50 is too much - 30-40% and with penalties for not living up to whatever responsibilities are laid out for her in the contract.

Mutt · 03-11-2007, 04:18 AM

from the girl's point of view - go with Shoehorn or SatanCash if they do offer you anything - they have solo girl sites running so at least you know they can live up to their end of things.

Lika19 · 03-11-2007, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jakethedog

Hit me up ASAP.. i will give you the best deal out there and am launching with 10 sites anyday here ..

Tuga will talk to you soon, Im going to shoot some pics now.

Angelo22 · 03-11-2007, 05:09 AM

Nice pics, i can advertize you
shoot me an email

The Ghost · 03-11-2007, 06:27 AM

One of the better marketing methods as of late to gain site interest. Is Lika your significant other Tuga?

In any case, hit me up. It's been a while since we've talked anyways.

Chris · 03-11-2007, 06:40 AM

Guess what guys? I just had a vision
someone will pick this girl up
they will agree to a 50/50 split and realize she isnt the next raven riley and she isnt making much money and she will want to pull out and a huge drama thread on gfy will unfold.

whoever wants this girl must see something in her to invest the money it is going to cost
1) she wants a lump up front
2) a whole design is needed
3) promo material is needed
4) processing
5) time to intergrate her into your current tracking system unless you slap her on ccbill

so you will be paying her out 50% if you go w/ a split w/ her

you pay out affilates 50-60%
you pay out hosting cost
you pay out designers
you pay out processing cost
you pay out marketing/employee cost
and you split the profits 50/50 with this broad ?
enjoy your 1-2$ per join then

LadyMischief · 03-11-2007, 07:46 AM

First off I'd pick a new name, that's a hella close rip on Lia19, and I'm sorry she had it first, and she deserves the right not to have it directly ripped off.

Tuga · 03-11-2007, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by The Ghost

One of the better marketing methods as of late to gain site interest. Is Lika your significant other Tuga?

In any case, hit me up. It's been a while since we've talked anyways.

No she's just an old friend, I dont date content, sorry Lika

I wont have much time to chat today, Sunday is for the family, but I'll get back to everyone soon.

Tuga · 03-11-2007, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

Guess what guys? I just had a vision
someone will pick this girl up
they will agree to a 50/50 split and realize she isnt the next raven riley and she isnt making much money and she will want to pull out and a huge drama thread on gfy will unfold.

whoever wants this girl must see something in her to invest the money it is going to cost
1) she wants a lump up front
2) a whole design is needed
3) promo material is needed
4) processing
5) time to intergrate her into your current tracking system unless you slap her on ccbill

so you will be paying her out 50% if you go w/ a split w/ her

you pay out affilates 50-60%
you pay out hosting cost
you pay out designers
you pay out processing cost
you pay out marketing/employee cost
and you split the profits 50/50 with this broad ?
enjoy your 1-2$ per join then

Guess what Chris? I have a handfull of interested people that already run this kind of sites with this kind of deals. So they must know something you dont. I expect to close a deal in a couple of days and then focus on building a great site.

Tuga · 03-11-2007, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyMischief

First off I'd pick a new name, that's a hella close rip on Lia19, and I'm sorry she had it first, and she deserves the right not to have it directly ripped off.

A name is just a name, her mother didnt call her Lika, she did when she worked as a stripper. So she can pick a new name just like that... we'll work that out with the company that builds the site. No problem there.

Basic_man · 03-11-2007, 09:06 AM

You're smokin' hot! Good luck finding the right sponsor

Nicky · 03-11-2007, 09:42 AM

Could have some potential for sure

Niktamer · 03-11-2007, 11:03 AM

good luck your hot, i"m sure someone here can handle you the way you should.

martinsc · 03-11-2007, 11:42 AM

good luck finding a deal that works out for all sides

oh, and yeah, your hot!

germ · 03-11-2007, 01:27 PM

best of luck to you. youre pretty hot.

Tuga · 03-11-2007, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelo22

Nice pics, i can advertize you
shoot me an email

By "advertize her" , do you mean build, run, and promote a website? Or just be an affiliate?

Angelo22 · 03-11-2007, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuga

By "advertize her" , do you mean build, run, and promote a website? Or just be an affiliate?

if you got the money, i can build it
put in even more money, and i can run it

what i meant by advertizing 'for free' was linking her site to mine

Lika19 · 03-11-2007, 06:08 PM

Hi guys, here's something for all the haters...

jakethedog · 03-11-2007, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lika19

Hi guys, here's something for all the haters...

lol..not a good move if you want these guys to promote your stuff.....

Tuga · 03-12-2007, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jakethedog

lol..not a good move if you want these guys to promote your stuff.....

Relax man, this is Go Fuck Yourself, it was just a joke

lalika · 03-12-2007, 04:48 AM

how much content are we talking about?

martinsc · 03-12-2007, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Lika19

Hi guys, here's something for all the haters...

that is HOT

Tuga · 03-12-2007, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lalika

how much content are we talking about?

Whatever it takes to build and run the site.

DirtyDanza · 03-12-2007, 10:27 AM

GUYS YOU REALIZE THAT she is in here asking for money is all right? first of all any company that would give 50% of a solo girl website to the girl is an idiot.. there is not way that can work numbers wise... ok yeah she's a pretty face but there are cost on the programs side... hosting, traffic, affiliates, marketing, design, in house employees,.. ok this broad is comming in here saying she wants 50% hahaha yea OK we'll give ya 50% of a site that does 1000 a week or we'll give you what a girl solo girl should make 10-20% of a site that does 10k a week... you do the math it's not that hard of a choice... as far as needing money to shoot content.. for what? your a solo girl that takes the pictures right? well there goes model fee's so what are you fee's for? hotel rooms? the weather is nice shoot outside... what your photographer? a real company will fly you out to work with their photogs or they will hire a local photog to shoot ya.... giving a model cash up front is about the dumbest thing I have seen on this board... and I have seen many many idiotic things here... but if your a solo girl, shoot good content,, then shop around,,, your not going to get 50% of the website there is not a chance in hell that you will get 50% of a
"money making website" so get that outta your head... learn the biz.. and remember all you are is just a pretty face for people to look at.... there is alot more that goes on behind the scenes of a website beisides the looks of the girl on the front... so I say far for a solo girl website is 10-20%

Tuga · 03-12-2007, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

GUYS YOU REALIZE THAT she is in here asking for money is all right? first of all any company that would give 50% of a solo girl website to the girl is an idiot.. there is not way that can work numbers wise... ok yeah she's a pretty face but there are cost on the programs side... hosting, traffic, affiliates, marketing, design, in house employees,.. ok this broad is comming in here saying she wants 50% hahaha yea OK we'll give ya 50% of a site that does 1000 a week or we'll give you what a girl solo girl should make 10-20% of a site that does 10k a week... you do the math it's not that hard of a choice... as far as needing money to shoot content.. for what? your a solo girl that takes the pictures right? well there goes model fee's so what are you fee's for? hotel rooms? the weather is nice shoot outside... what your photographer? a real company will fly you out to work with their photogs or they will hire a local photog to shoot ya.... giving a model cash up front is about the dumbest thing I have seen on this board... and I have seen many many idiotic things here... but if your a solo girl, shoot good content,, then shop around,,, your not going to get 50% of the website there is not a chance in hell that you will get 50% of a
"money making website" so get that outta your head... learn the biz.. and remember all you are is just a pretty face for people to look at.... there is alot more that goes on behind the scenes of a website beisides the looks of the girl on the front... so I say far for a solo girl website is 10-20%

Thanks for that valuable input.

So you think she takes her own pics... that's funny

And "take pics outside", that was funny too

Sleep outside too, by the way.

This deal includes the girl, the sets, the photographer, the travelling, the photo processing, cam shows, diary, every bit of content the site needs. And she knows nothing about the biz, but I know a thing or two.

We are looking for someone with experience with marketing, design, traffic, affiliates and the general stuff that running a paysite implies. I could do all that but it would take too much time from my other projects, so finding an established company and making a 50/50 partnership seems smarter.

I will email everyone that showed interest pretty soon. Here's some new pics because text is boring.

Jinx · 03-12-2007, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Lika19

Hi guys, here's something for all the haters...

Very nice

_Richard_ · 03-12-2007, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lika19

Yes.

I hear even porn webmasters get into solid relations sometimes.

DirtyDanza · 03-12-2007, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuga

Thanks for that valuable input.

So you think she takes her own pics... that's funny

And "take pics outside", that was funny too

Sleep outside too, by the way.

This deal includes the girl, the sets, the photographer, the travelling, the photo processing, cam shows, diary, every bit of content the site needs. And she knows nothing about the biz, but I know a thing or two.

We are looking for someone with experience with marketing, design, traffic, affiliates and the general stuff that running a paysite implies. I could do all that but it would take too much time from my other projects, so finding an established company and making a 50/50 partnership seems smarter.

I will email everyone that showed interest pretty soon. Here's some new pics because text is boring.

and thats the point I am making I have only run paysites since I started into the industry... you will not find a "real" 50/50 split from any program that can push traffic and sales there because it simply cost to much money to get the traffic... I would be more along the lines of looking for a 30/70 split or a flat rate of a salary for the girl.... simply put it cost to much for the program... shooting the content is the easy part.. girls are easy to find and getting a girl to shoot a solo site is easier than stealing candy from a baby.... now comes the hard part... selling it.... thats where the program and it's chronies come in... trust me... it's 10 times harder to run a paysite than it is to shoot content... I can shoot content with my eyes shut and one hand in a beaver hole... I dunno to me it just sounds like a scam.. because number 1 why would a company partner with someone who wants 50%? when it would be easier to just pay you for the content.. couple hundred bucks per shoot... cause no joke with a solo girl you shuold be able to shoot at least 5 sets a day for photos and 2 full hardcore boy girls videos a day with the same guy and girl so your looking at an easy 50k a month that way... thats easier than a 50/ 50 split with a program because no joke your not going to get a solid 50% there giong to fuck you somehow to cover cost.. if you charge 300 to a company per exclusive photo set thats 45k a month right there... if your shooting 7 days a week 5 sets a day.. and with photos thats easy... and then you'll get your money when you sell photo sets... and you will have plenty of money to "pay for shoots" haha cause to me it sounds like a girl just trying to make rent... " I need a grand" then you get photos... get the fuck outta with that... and you say a 50/50 sounds.. here is my offer....

20% for softcore 30% for boygirl and you can keep what you make from webcam and dvd sales... thats something that can be legitimetly done....

keep in mind when your looking around the biggest program at the time may not be your best choice.. I have seen many programs come and go.. and many were huge on here for a while then now there gone... some people think stuff like 50/50 with girls and paying 80bucks per signup and the way to go.. but it catches up in the long run... keep your ideas open to companies that have been around and were never the biggest but stayed steady...

pornguy · 03-12-2007, 03:04 PM

I really like the part about wanting up front money.

DirtyDanza · 03-12-2007, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

I really like the part about wanting up front money.

excatly... like as an employee of my company you do not get paid up front.. any company that pays up front is a company that is going to be down in a year... bottom line... why you think KB has been as so many companies? he wants money up front and well the companies that are stupid enough to pay him up front where are they now?... well better yet where is he now?

seeric · 03-12-2007, 03:23 PM

holy moly

brasileira

eu gosto meowwwwwwww

Tuga · 03-12-2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

I really like the part about wanting up front money.

I'm really getting tired of this upfront money shit.

It's money AFTER the content is delivered, but before the site is ready and making sales. It's not really upfront, ok? Get over it.

Nodtveidt · 03-12-2007, 04:21 PM

This is something I'd consider but I don't have the resources to pull off such a risk at the moment. She HAS potential, but this is a gamble I'd be very uneasy about taking on, and without a lot of financial backing, it'd be a tough sell...I'd have to have some way of knowing that my time and money were being used wisely. I'm not saying that this idea is a bad one, there's just not enough here to convince me that this idea is worth jumping in with both feet.

Tuga · 03-12-2007, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nodtveidt

This is something I'd consider but I don't have the resources to pull off such a risk at the moment. She HAS potential, but this is a gamble I'd be very uneasy about taking on, and without a lot of financial backing, it'd be a tough sell...I'd have to have some way of knowing that my time and money were being used wisely. I'm not saying that this idea is a bad one, there's just not enough here to convince me that this idea is worth jumping in with both feet.

How is it a gamble when I give you enough content to open the site before you pay me anything? And a lot more follows when the site is open... even if she pulls out 3 months from now, you have a site, just take down the cam shows.

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Tuga · 03-13-2007, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by gandalfuy

contact me on ÏCQ 4159145

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Hit me up

V_RocKs · 03-20-2007, 01:42 AM

I'd hit it, 2x's!

A star is born!

03-10-2007, 09:22 PM	#52
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03-11-2007, 03:33 AM	#56
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03-11-2007, 03:38 AM	#57
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03-11-2007, 04:16 AM	#59
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	clusterfuck waiting to happen probably but what solo girl isn't a clusterfuck waiting to happen - whether she's 5,000 miles across the ocean or 2 blocks away from you she looks pretty good in the pics so ..... if some webmaster is willing to risk a couple of grand to see if she can follow through with getting enough content togethe to get things rolling r i don't see it as much of a risk if 2 grand isn't going to make a difference in your life if u lose it. 50/50 is too much - 30-40% and with penalties for not living up to whatever responsibilities are laid out for her in the contract. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

03-11-2007, 04:18 AM	#60
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	from the girl's point of view - go with Shoehorn or SatanCash if they do offer you anything - they have solo girl sites running so at least you know they can live up to their end of things. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

03-10-2007, 09:21 PM	#51
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	contact spacedog i know he runs some solo girl sites already.

03-10-2007, 09:22 PM	#53
Lika19 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 32	Ok guys, you talk to Tuga and I'll look at all the offers with him soon. Time to get some sleep, I have to shoot more content in the morning.

03-11-2007, 03:38 AM	#58
Danas1 Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lithuania Posts: 146	nice pics, nice job. Not a bad offer

03-11-2007, 05:09 AM	#62
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03-11-2007, 06:27 AM	#63
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03-11-2007, 06:40 AM	#64
Chris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: icq: 71462500 Skype: Jupzchris Posts: 27,880	Guess what guys? I just had a vision someone will pick this girl up they will agree to a 50/50 split and realize she isnt the next raven riley and she isnt making much money and she will want to pull out and a huge drama thread on gfy will unfold. whoever wants this girl must see something in her to invest the money it is going to cost 1) she wants a lump up front 2) a whole design is needed 3) promo material is needed 4) processing 5) time to intergrate her into your current tracking system unless you slap her on ccbill so you will be paying her out 50% if you go w/ a split w/ her you pay out affilates 50-60% you pay out hosting cost you pay out designers you pay out processing cost you pay out marketing/employee cost and you split the profits 50/50 with this broad ? enjoy your 1-2$ per join then __________________ [email protected]

03-11-2007, 07:46 AM	#65
LadyMischief Orgasms N Such! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 18,135	First off I'd pick a new name, that's a hella close rip on Lia19, and I'm sorry she had it first, and she deserves the right not to have it directly ripped off. __________________ ICQ 3522039 Content Manager - orgasm.com [email protected]

03-11-2007, 09:06 AM	#69
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03-11-2007, 09:42 AM	#70
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03-11-2007, 11:03 AM	#71
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03-11-2007, 11:42 AM	#72
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03-11-2007, 01:27 PM	#73
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03-11-2007, 06:08 PM	#76
Lika19 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 32	Hi guys, here's something for all the haters...

03-12-2007, 04:48 AM	#79
lalika Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 390	how much content are we talking about?

03-12-2007, 10:27 AM	#82
DirtyDanza Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: BP4L.... Las Vegas, Posts: 8,370	GUYS YOU REALIZE THAT she is in here asking for money is all right? first of all any company that would give 50% of a solo girl website to the girl is an idiot.. there is not way that can work numbers wise... ok yeah she's a pretty face but there are cost on the programs side... hosting, traffic, affiliates, marketing, design, in house employees,.. ok this broad is comming in here saying she wants 50% hahaha yea OK we'll give ya 50% of a site that does 1000 a week or we'll give you what a girl solo girl should make 10-20% of a site that does 10k a week... you do the math it's not that hard of a choice... as far as needing money to shoot content.. for what? your a solo girl that takes the pictures right? well there goes model fee's so what are you fee's for? hotel rooms? the weather is nice shoot outside... what your photographer? a real company will fly you out to work with their photogs or they will hire a local photog to shoot ya.... giving a model cash up front is about the dumbest thing I have seen on this board... and I have seen many many idiotic things here... but if your a solo girl, shoot good content,, then shop around,,, your not going to get 50% of the website there is not a chance in hell that you will get 50% of a "money making website" so get that outta your head... learn the biz.. and remember all you are is just a pretty face for people to look at.... there is alot more that goes on behind the scenes of a website beisides the looks of the girl on the front... so I say far for a solo girl website is 10-20% __________________ AVN Nominated Camming Couple

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03-12-2007, 03:23 PM	#89
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03-12-2007, 04:21 PM	#91
Nodtveidt Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Camuy, PR Posts: 573	This is something I'd consider but I don't have the resources to pull off such a risk at the moment. She HAS potential, but this is a gamble I'd be very uneasy about taking on, and without a lot of financial backing, it'd be a tough sell...I'd have to have some way of knowing that my time and money were being used wisely. I'm not saying that this idea is a bad one, there's just not enough here to convince me that this idea is worth jumping in with both feet. __________________ ICQ: 11541913

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03-20-2007, 01:42 AM	#95
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