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Tuga 03-10-2007 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 12053073)
Dude if you can convince someone to send $1k to Portugal...well god bless you because the only thing more immoral than stealing is letting a sucker keep his money.

Ok, you're an idiot.

I got a lot more sent to Portugal over the years, and I sent a lot more from Portugal as well. The only time there was a problem, I was the one who lost my money.

jimmy-3-way 03-10-2007 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVega (Post 12053108)
Dude .. I don't know anything about the deal she wants and never said i would send her money in advance .. All I said is that I would talk to her about what she thinks she can do and what I'd be willing to offer. I can tell you right now that I would not send any money for content. I would cover costs for site and marketing material and run and market it. But is she is looking for 50% she'd be covering the cost to shoot. and production on the site wouldn't start till i had a shit load of content. Maybe she just needs to her options.

That's all well and good, I'm not accusing you of anything. But she says right in the first post what deal she wants and she specifically says 'money upfront'.

My point being merely that anybody who sends money upfront to any model at all deserves what they get. If they get ripped, they deserve it for being stupid. If they happen to discover the next Lia19, then I guess they deserve the success for being balls out daring.

I'm of the opinion that the former would be the likely outcome and thus I think anybody who would do it is a boob. There are way, way, way too many ifs.

How are you even going to write an enforceable contract with a foreign national? What's the best you could get if it goes bad? A default judgment in your home jurisdiction? That makes a contract about as useful as toilet paper. So you are entering into a business deal based on the word of a hot 19 year old stripper?

Maybe I'm too risk averse...

Lika19 03-10-2007 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVega (Post 12053108)
Dude .. I don't know anything about the deal she wants and never said i would send her money in advance .. All I said is that I would talk to her about what she thinks she can do and what I'd be willing to offer. I can tell you right now that I would not send any money for content. I would cover costs for site and marketing material and run and market it. But is she is looking for 50% she'd be covering the cost to shoot. and production on the site wouldn't start till i had a shit load of content. Maybe she just needs to her options.

When I said upfront, I mean you pay me AFTER I deliver the initial content and sign the contract, but BEFORE the site is up and running and making sales. So I dont have to wait a long time AFTER I spend my money and do my work. I dont see anything risky with that :winkwink:

Lika19 03-10-2007 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 12053153)
That's all well and good, I'm not accusing you of anything. But she says right in the first post what deal she wants and she specifically says 'money upfront'.

I dont ask for that much money, and I dont want it before the content is ready. And I say on my first post that I want to get offers, even if it's not exactly what I expect. If you're not interested, go do something else :disgust

Lika19 03-10-2007 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12053150)
Your location Lika? Rough location is fine.

I am shooting in Portugal, but I live in Belgium.

jimmy-3-way 03-10-2007 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lika19 (Post 12053173)
If you're not interested, go do something else :disgust

Oh SNAP.

Well you got me. I'm out.

MikeVega 03-10-2007 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 12053153)
That's all well and good, I'm not accusing you of anything. But she says right in the first post what deal she wants and she specifically says 'money upfront'.

My point being merely that anybody who sends money upfront to any model at all deserves what they get. If they get ripped, they deserve it for being stupid. If they happen to discover the next Lia19, then I guess they deserve the success for being balls out daring.

I'm of the opinion that the former would be the likely outcome and thus I think anybody who would do it is a boob. There are way, way, way too many ifs.

How are you even going to write an enforceable contract with a foreign national? What's the best you could get if it goes bad? A default judgment in your home jurisdiction? That makes a contract about as useful as toilet paper. So you are entering into a business deal based on the word of a hot 19 year old stripper?

Maybe I'm too risk averse...

I never said i would go near the deal she had in mind. she said she was open to other deals and didn't know what type of deals were out there.

Lets say she's killer hot and the content looks good. I have her produce 100/200 pic/video sets. then i give her a small amount of money to help her cover her costs. at this point i own the domain and the content and pay her a % to stay exclusive and to produce content. the worst that can happen is she flakes and I have a site that has 200 sets i can rotate with a content management system. I'm not saying she would go for that deal but maybe I'd only be willing to offer something like that. How am i getting fucked in that one ..

Aussie Rebel 03-10-2007 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuga (Post 12053066)
I will contact everyone, at least you know I wont disappear anytime soon, if my post count and join date are worth anything.

Post count = nothing , Join date is what counts because your still here doin biz:thumbsup

Tuga 03-10-2007 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVega (Post 12053213)
I never said i would go near the deal she had in mind. she said she was open to other deals and didn't know what type of deals were out there.

Lets say she's killer hot and the content looks good. I have her produce 100/200 pic/video sets. then i give her a small amount of money to help her cover her costs. at this point i own the domain and the content and pay her a % to stay exclusive and to produce content. the worst that can happen is she flakes and I have a site that has 200 sets i can rotate with a content management system. I'm not saying she would go for that deal but maybe I'd only be willing to offer something like that. How am i getting fucked in that one ..

You are not getting fucked :thumbsup

I emailed you. I may even put some of my money upfront to help her cover the costs if we find a good deal and that is a problem.

However if you want her to deliver a lot of content, and good quality stuff, there will be expenses. She wants to shoot in this fancy hotel room that costs $400 a night... there's a jacuzzi, a huge round bed, and some other shit there. Enough to make 5 different sets maybe. But she doesnt have the money, so what's wrong with paying that bill for her AFTER she shoots there? That's just an example, we are looking for a partnership, so if you want to be a partner you have to show her some love.

MikeVega 03-10-2007 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuga (Post 12053243)
You are not getting fucked :thumbsup

I emailed you. I may even put some of my money upfront to help her cover the costs if we find a good deal and that is a problem.

However if you want her to deliver a lot of content, and good quality stuff, there will be expenses. She wants to shoot in this fancy hotel room that costs $400 a night... there's a jacuzzi, a huge round bed, and some other shit there. Enough to make 5 different sets maybe. But she doesnt have the money, so what's wrong with paying that bill for her AFTER she shoots there? That's just an example, we are looking for a partnership, so if you want to be a partner you have to show her some love.

I'll contact you after i get the email and we can talk details ...:thumbsup

porno jew 03-10-2007 09:21 PM

contact spacedog i know he runs some solo girl sites already.

RedShoe 03-10-2007 09:22 PM

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Lika19 03-10-2007 09:22 PM

Ok guys, you talk to Tuga and I'll look at all the offers with him soon. Time to get some sleep, I have to shoot more content in the morning.

Tuga 03-10-2007 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RedShoe (Post 12053279)

You missed :error

cj_purve 03-10-2007 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lika19 (Post 12053048)
Yes.

I hear even porn webmasters get into solid relations sometimes.

LMAO

I so hope you are exactly as you claim and not some dude pretending ... because if you are for real, you rock :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

An ex stripper with a boyfriend who knows how to handle WANKERS. Oh you'll go far for sure if you can get the right deal ;-)

If you are legit, this is a perfectly natural way to have put yourself forward so don't listen to the peanut gallery.

As MikeVega said, how is he getting screwed if he ends up with rights to content of the same value as what he's spent, and he doesn't have to pay much of it up front? Its just like buying content ... as long as the agreement is signed, the risk is very contained.

I would be interested in talking more to you but I'm in Australia & like to shoot the content myself so we are probably not the right fit, but I do hope you work something out with MikeVega & his crew ... ask around, you'll hear good stuff.

Good luck :thumbsup

Tuga 03-11-2007 03:33 AM

Quick question to you guys. What's the standard number of pics per set, and what's the resolution you use for member's area pics?

jakethedog 03-11-2007 03:38 AM

Hit me up ASAP.. i will give you the best deal out there and am launching with 10 sites anyday here ..

Danas1 03-11-2007 03:38 AM

nice pics, nice job. Not a bad offer

Mutt 03-11-2007 04:16 AM

clusterfuck waiting to happen probably but what solo girl isn't a clusterfuck waiting to happen - whether she's 5,000 miles across the ocean or 2 blocks away from you

she looks pretty good in the pics so ..... if some webmaster is willing to risk a couple of grand to see if she can follow through with getting enough content togethe to get things rolling r i don't see it as much of a risk if 2 grand isn't going to make a difference in your life if u lose it.

50/50 is too much - 30-40% and with penalties for not living up to whatever responsibilities are laid out for her in the contract.

Mutt 03-11-2007 04:18 AM

from the girl's point of view - go with Shoehorn or SatanCash if they do offer you anything - they have solo girl sites running so at least you know they can live up to their end of things.

Lika19 03-11-2007 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jakethedog (Post 12054266)
Hit me up ASAP.. i will give you the best deal out there and am launching with 10 sites anyday here ..

Tuga will talk to you soon, Im going to shoot some pics now.

Angelo22 03-11-2007 05:09 AM

Nice pics, i can advertize you
shoot me an email

The Ghost 03-11-2007 06:27 AM

One of the better marketing methods as of late to gain site interest. Is Lika your significant other Tuga?

In any case, hit me up. It's been a while since we've talked anyways.

Chris 03-11-2007 06:40 AM

Guess what guys? I just had a vision
someone will pick this girl up
they will agree to a 50/50 split and realize she isnt the next raven riley and she isnt making much money and she will want to pull out and a huge drama thread on gfy will unfold.

whoever wants this girl must see something in her to invest the money it is going to cost
1) she wants a lump up front
2) a whole design is needed
3) promo material is needed
4) processing
5) time to intergrate her into your current tracking system unless you slap her on ccbill

so you will be paying her out 50% if you go w/ a split w/ her

you pay out affilates 50-60%
you pay out hosting cost
you pay out designers
you pay out processing cost
you pay out marketing/employee cost
and you split the profits 50/50 with this broad ?
enjoy your 1-2$ per join then

LadyMischief 03-11-2007 07:46 AM

First off I'd pick a new name, that's a hella close rip on Lia19, and I'm sorry she had it first, and she deserves the right not to have it directly ripped off.

Tuga 03-11-2007 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 12054654)
One of the better marketing methods as of late to gain site interest. Is Lika your significant other Tuga?

In any case, hit me up. It's been a while since we've talked anyways.

No she's just an old friend, I dont date content, sorry Lika :winkwink:

I wont have much time to chat today, Sunday is for the family, but I'll get back to everyone soon.

Tuga 03-11-2007 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 12054675)
Guess what guys? I just had a vision
someone will pick this girl up
they will agree to a 50/50 split and realize she isnt the next raven riley and she isnt making much money and she will want to pull out and a huge drama thread on gfy will unfold.

whoever wants this girl must see something in her to invest the money it is going to cost
1) she wants a lump up front
2) a whole design is needed
3) promo material is needed
4) processing
5) time to intergrate her into your current tracking system unless you slap her on ccbill

so you will be paying her out 50% if you go w/ a split w/ her

you pay out affilates 50-60%
you pay out hosting cost
you pay out designers
you pay out processing cost
you pay out marketing/employee cost
and you split the profits 50/50 with this broad ?
enjoy your 1-2$ per join then

Guess what Chris? I have a handfull of interested people that already run this kind of sites with this kind of deals. So they must know something you dont. I expect to close a deal in a couple of days and then focus on building a great site.

Tuga 03-11-2007 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyMischief (Post 12054803)
First off I'd pick a new name, that's a hella close rip on Lia19, and I'm sorry she had it first, and she deserves the right not to have it directly ripped off.

A name is just a name, her mother didnt call her Lika, she did when she worked as a stripper. So she can pick a new name just like that... we'll work that out with the company that builds the site. No problem there.

Basic_man 03-11-2007 09:06 AM

You're smokin' hot! Good luck finding the right sponsor :)

Nicky 03-11-2007 09:42 AM

Could have some potential for sure

Niktamer 03-11-2007 11:03 AM

good luck your hot, i"m sure someone here can handle you the way you should.

martinsc 03-11-2007 11:42 AM

good luck finding a deal that works out for all sides :thumbsup


oh, and yeah, your hot!

germ 03-11-2007 01:27 PM

best of luck to you. youre pretty hot. :thumbsup

Tuga 03-11-2007 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelo22 (Post 12054466)
Nice pics, i can advertize you
shoot me an email

By "advertize her" , do you mean build, run, and promote a website? Or just be an affiliate?

Angelo22 03-11-2007 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuga (Post 12056057)
By "advertize her" , do you mean build, run, and promote a website? Or just be an affiliate?

if you got the money, i can build it
put in even more money, and i can run it

what i meant by advertizing 'for free' was linking her site to mine

Lika19 03-11-2007 06:08 PM

Hi guys, here's something for all the haters...

http://www.alojarfotos.com/thumbs/admin/gfy.jpg

jakethedog 03-11-2007 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lika19 (Post 12056850)
Hi guys, here's something for all the haters...

http://www.alojarfotos.com/thumbs/admin/gfy.jpg


lol..not a good move if you want these guys to promote your stuff..... :Oh crap

Tuga 03-12-2007 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jakethedog (Post 12056860)
lol..not a good move if you want these guys to promote your stuff..... :Oh crap

Relax man, this is Go Fuck Yourself, it was just a joke :winkwink:

lalika 03-12-2007 04:48 AM

how much content are we talking about?

martinsc 03-12-2007 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Lika19 (Post 12056850)
Hi guys, here's something for all the haters...

http://www.alojarfotos.com/thumbs/admin/gfy.jpg

that is HOT :)


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