Smokey & Fris -

Are you mostly self-taught, or did you take any formal IT courses/classes?

I seen some pretty good tricks from Smokey 2 or 3 years back and If I only knew 1/4 of what he knows.I don't know Fris very much and didn't realize he had the tech knowledge.

I vote YT

self taught, only computer classes i had was in highschool, we only had novell/turbo c/dbase/turbo pascal/watcom pascal then. no internet.

the stuff they teach you in college is pretty sad.

you are pretty much up shit creek if you want to goto college then become a solaris or aix admin, or anything cisco related

pretty much you have to learn on your own, or take courses, and cisco and solaris can get pretty expensive.

I chose Fris. But not based on either ones abilities.

I chose Fris based on the fact that I believe he is less ethical than Smokey.

Does that mean he will bring your server down? No... Just means I think Smokey is less curious about what you have and more interested in creating his own.

Some one should set up a server and have a little contest just for fun...

are you saying they are both l33t hackers ?

Now that Fris has reverse engineered us all, my standing is correct.

hehehe I'm sure fris wouldn't mind a little taste of his own ddos medicine.

fact: both are unaware of the gfy malware exploit loaded via iframe last time. FUD for at least another good 5 months :)

Who what?

Maybe a fucking mod can step in and bad the cunt V_rocks?

I'm in yer base killin yer dudes.

Getting 50's or being a really slow reader?

Paul Markham can do much more damage ... spiritually.