2257 and .xxx panels from xbiz show now available to view! - GoFuckYourself.com

FightThisPatent · 03-07-2007, 05:14 PM

http://www.xbizhollywood.com/seminar_videos.php

ugg.... seeing myself on video.

Fight the video killed the radio star!

tony286 · 03-07-2007, 05:18 PM

Thanks,will give it a watch. I heard you had a face for radio lol j/k .

seeric · 03-07-2007, 05:19 PM

haha i can't watch it. he's so full of shit. watched clip one and i wanted to smash my laptop.

thats why i didn't go to the panel, i would have shot my mouth off 5 secs into it.

FightThisPatent · 03-07-2007, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

haha i can't watch it. he's so full of shit. watched clip one and i wanted to smash my laptop.

thats why i didn't go to the panel, i would have shot my mouth off 5 secs into it.

know what ya mean... i'm looking forward to watching the 2257 one with the FBI agent.. i flew in after that session and missed it. heard it was pretty interesting.

Fight the boobtube!

seeric · 03-07-2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FightThisPatent

know what ya mean... i'm looking forward to watching the 2257 one with the FBI agent.. i flew in after that session and missed it. heard it was pretty interesting.

Fight the boobtube!

yeah that one is fine. watching it now.

that dude stuart is having visions of ferraris and hampton homes.

what a crock.

i guess i dhould watch it to see who took the ball and stood up to him so i can thank them at the next show.

FightThisPatent · 03-07-2007, 05:28 PM

About half way through Part 5, i ask through a round of applause, who is against .XXX....whole room was clapping.

Fight the cliff notes!

seeric · 03-07-2007, 05:28 PM

dedicated to stuart lawley

https://youtube.com/watch?v=R0AmCIryu6Q

PUKE! kinda fitting.

LOL

FightThisPatent · 03-07-2007, 05:31 PM

In part 5, Stuart Lawley said that if you have your .xxx automatically redirect to your .COM, you are required to use ICRA labelling on the .com!!!!!!

If you have your .xxx page that has a link that the surfer must click to go to .com, then you are not required to have ICRA labelling on your .com

Fight the cliff notes part duex!

baddog · 03-07-2007, 05:52 PM

edited out? WTF?

seeric · 03-07-2007, 05:55 PM

edited out? yeah wtf up with that?

baddog · 03-07-2007, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

edited out? yeah wtf up with that?

guess I was too confrontational

tony286 · 03-07-2007, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

guess I was too confrontational

Thats bullshit, was anything else edited out?

baddog · 03-07-2007, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Thats bullshit, was anything else edited out?

I have not watched the entire thing, and I don't have it memorized so not sure that I could answer that question.

FightThisPatent · 03-07-2007, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

edited out? WTF?

I just got to the end of of clip 12. Tom Hymes said that the tape ran out during his question as the video ends abruptly, so there wasn't an editing choice, there was just not enough tape.

so seems like tom and baddog lost their 15 minutes

LOL

Fight the missing fame time!

seeric · 03-07-2007, 06:24 PM

meowwwwww

makes sense.

tony286 · 03-07-2007, 06:27 PM

Video lesson 1: always have more tape then you think you will need

JFK · 03-07-2007, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FightThisPatent

I just got to the end of of clip 12. Tom Hymes said that the tape ran out during his question as the video ends abruptly, so there wasn't an editing choice, there was just not enough tape.

so seems like tom and baddog lost their 15 minutes

LOL

Fight the missing fame time!

fire the Video guys

Fight incompetence!

TampaToker · 03-07-2007, 06:52 PM

Well just watched the series on 2257. Now if what that agent is saying is true nothing that they require are out of reason.

Just watched the second clip of Lawley and was interesting to hear a statement he made that they never said . xxx would help protect children. He stated in the video that it will provide revenue stream to child protection agency's. Does anyone know if you can get a annual report of non profit organizations?

TampaToker · 03-07-2007, 09:32 PM

What the hell is this thread doing on page 2? Folks this is a must watch set of videos clips here. This lays it out right from the horses mouth.

I would suggest if you enjoy what you do and wanna protect your business this
is a must see. There was alot of things that i was not aware of concerning the .xxx issue. At first like most i was like "hey xbiz why did you invite these guys".

But after watching these series of clips it was now and hearing it from the horses mouth we have a very huge issue on hand. Also thanks to xbiz for setting this up, thanks to the FSC lawyer that was on the panel, thanks to Brandon for moderating and thanks to the folks who attended the discussion for acting civil.

seeric · 03-07-2007, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker

What the hell is this thread doing on page 2? Folks this is a must watch set of videos clips here. This lays it out right from the horses mouth.

I would suggest if you enjoy what you do and wanna protect your business this
is a must see. There was alot of things that i was not aware of concerning the .xxx issue. At first like most i was like "hey xbiz why did you invite these guys".

But after watching these series of clips it was now and hearing it from the horses mouth we have a very huge issue on hand. Also thanks to xbiz for setting this up, thanks to the FSC lawyer that was on the panel, thanks to Brandon for moderating and thanks to the folks who attended the discussion for acting civil.

agreed.

i will make sure it stays on page 1

K R I S T E N · 03-07-2007, 10:10 PM

bump for video footage

xxxjay · 03-07-2007, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FightThisPatent

http://www.xbizhollywood.com/seminar_videos.php

ugg.... seeing myself on video.

Fight the video killed the radio star!

Awesome...I was pissed I missed these at the show...thanks for the 411.

Evil E · 03-08-2007, 12:33 AM

Very cool but i'm having trouble to load the videos.. i get the first minute of all the vids, then it buffers and stops just there.

baddog · 03-08-2007, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by knewon

Very cool but i'm having trouble to load the videos.. i get the first minute of all the vids, then it buffers and stops just there.

go to the library and off the 28k dial up

Nikki_Licks · 03-08-2007, 06:35 AM

Was just pointed to this thread and I will have to watch it. Thanks Brandon

AND...........
A morning bump for others to see

FightThisPatent · 03-08-2007, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

Was just pointed to this thread and I will have to watch it.

listening to the 2257 clips now while i am working. it's like NPR, but about porn

LOL

Fight the icq noises while listening!

FightThisPatent · 03-08-2007, 07:54 AM

I am on clip3 of the 2257 panel, and i highly recommend everyone view all of the clips

Here is what i got from clip3 already:

- you can have more than 1 photo ID. I remember hearing some industry attorneys saying that if you have extra info or other photo pics of the same ID, that it is a problem. the agent clearly says in clip3 its not a problem as long as you have your cross referencing and clear copy of the ID

- if you have a sign that says when you are closed for vacation, they will come back.. they aren't expecting you to be chained to the office.

clip3 starts with the Q&A

a common question with solo girls, is they don't want to put their address on their website for 2257 records. the agent said that an attorney can be the holder of records.... wow...

As you listen to the agent, you get a sense they are being practical about things, not trying to target anyone... I have had many meetings with FBI agents over child porn issues with ASACP, and they all are dedicated to protecting children and not about shutting down porn.. that anti-porn rhetoric is at the federal level, and granted that is where they get their marching orders, but so far in the inspection process and on this video, seems to me that if you keep good records, you have nothing to worry about.

Fight the cliff notes!

NinjaSteve · 03-08-2007, 09:18 AM

Fight the cliff notes! - That made me laugh. watching these now.

NinjaSteve · 03-08-2007, 09:20 AM

Are there cliff notes anywhere about what you need exactly for 2257 documentation?

jact · 03-08-2007, 09:22 AM

I'm getting angry just going through the xxx streams again.. Anyone know where my Q&A is? Which clip?

NinjaSteve · 03-08-2007, 09:24 AM

I wish there was a podcast or MP3. I don't care about watching a person talk.

NinjaSteve · 03-08-2007, 09:25 AM

I am hearing cell phones going off too. Wtf mate?

jact · 03-08-2007, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jact

I'm getting angry just going through the xxx streams again.. Anyone know where my Q&A is? Which clip?

Found it, start of clip 9.

FightThisPatent · 03-08-2007, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jact

Found it, start of clip 9.

the response about most webmasters present in the room were mostly from California was classic.

Fight the other 49 states and countries present!

jact · 03-08-2007, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by FightThisPatent

the response about most webmasters present in the room were mostly from California was classic.

Fight the other 49 states and countries present!

I was very angry by the spin they applied to everything said, I'm still very angry by it. The common person isn't smart enough to realize when they're being lied to and they're playing that cord expertly.

FightThisPatent · 03-08-2007, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jact

I was very angry by the spin they applied to everything said, I'm still very angry by it. The common person isn't smart enough to realize when they're being lied to and they're playing that cord expertly.

this this will really make you boil:

http://www.icann.org/minutes/prelim-report-12feb07.htm

Vint Cerf noted that he had been notified by email that there was a meeting of the adult online community that had recently taken place to discuss the creation of the new .XXX domain, and that the meeting was attended by ICM. John Jeffrey noted that he was informed that the meeting had taken place approximately one week earlier, and that Stuart Lawley of ICM had participated in a panel discussion. John also indicated that he was informed that it was sparsely attended and that there was no transcript of the panel discussion at this point. Vint Cerf asked whether by inference that meant there was no groundswell of support for the creation of the domain at that meeting. John Jeffrey reflected that he did not believe that there was enough information about the conference to support that conclusion. Vint Cerf advised that a transcript of the meeting had been offered to him, but it was not yet available.

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The video clips have been sent to ICANN

Fight the spinning!

jact · 03-08-2007, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by FightThisPatent

this this will really make you boil:

http://www.icann.org/minutes/prelim-report-12feb07.htm

Vint Cerf noted that he had been notified by email that there was a meeting of the adult online community that had recently taken place to discuss the creation of the new .XXX domain, and that the meeting was attended by ICM. John Jeffrey noted that he was informed that the meeting had taken place approximately one week earlier, and that Stuart Lawley of ICM had participated in a panel discussion. John also indicated that he was informed that it was sparsely attended and that there was no transcript of the panel discussion at this point. Vint Cerf asked whether by inference that meant there was no groundswell of support for the creation of the domain at that meeting. John Jeffrey reflected that he did not believe that there was enough information about the conference to support that conclusion. Vint Cerf advised that a transcript of the meeting had been offered to him, but it was not yet available.

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The video clips have been sent to ICANN

Fight the spinning!

Wow, these guys really are masters of spin, either that or they truly are delusional. I'm not sure it isn't a combination of the two to be honest.

jact · 03-08-2007, 11:53 AM

Wow, people think it's that important do they?

seeric · 03-08-2007, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jact

I was very angry by the spin they applied to everything said, I'm still very angry by it. The common person isn't smart enough to realize when they're being lied to and they're playing that cord expertly.

the guys a delusional spin doctor. he can jump off a cliff. his motives are clearly apparent to those that have been following and fighting this since the beginning. there is only one course of action if his goals are to protect children and make the net safer.

ENACT .KIDS

bottom line. he can't even argue it.

you're transparent stuart.

Evil E · 03-08-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

go to the library and off the 28k dial up

I tought an webhosting guy would know better.

jact · 03-08-2007, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by knewon

I tought an webhosting guy would know better.

What's your hosting have to do with your connection to the web?

Karupted Charles · 03-08-2007, 02:24 PM

bump for all 2 see

baddog · 03-08-2007, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaSteve

I wish there was a podcast or MP3. I don't care about watching a person talk.

ever considered having multiple windows open? you don't have to watch to listen

baddog · 03-08-2007, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

ENACT .KIDS

there is no support or money in it according to him

baddog · 03-08-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by knewon

I tought an webhosting guy would know better.

You are the only person complaining about the stream . . . tells me it is your issue, not theirs. Personally, I was pretty impressed with the speed of the server they are on.

seeric · 03-08-2007, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

there is no support or money in it according to him

exactly. no money in it so he can't make money with it even though its the best thing for everyone. the government would never let him charge 75 bucks a domain name for .kids.

there is less support in .xxx, but oh wait, the money is here, hence the strongarm views and spin and telling icann things he thinks they want to hear to get his BS through to the next level.

i retain my opinion that icann is not stupid and they know damn well we don't want this.

FightThisPatent · 03-08-2007, 09:22 PM

Fight the learning something from the video clips!

baddog · 03-09-2007, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by FightThisPatent

Fight the learning something from the video clips!

Exactly, people would rather guess than listen I guess.

FightThisPatent · 03-09-2007, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

exactly. no money in it so he can't make money with it even though its the best thing for everyone. the government would never let him charge 75 bucks a domain name for .kids.

i have been proposing that since it takes an oversight as to who would get a .KIDS domain (they have to be verified that they were kid friendly, etc), that it could cost as much as $120/yr for a domain.

Any company that wishes to target children for good reasons shouldn't have a problem paying the fee and given less amount of domains, it does bring in some $$$ to offset costs.

Someone like Network Solutions that has the infrastructure in place makes sense, rather than trying to create a whole new set of root servers,etc.

Fight the .$$$

wyldworx · 03-09-2007, 07:12 AM

Just got through video 4 and have to recommend these clips to all.

03-07-2007, 05:14 PM	#1
FightThisPatent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,090	2257 and .xxx panels from xbiz show now available to view! http://www.xbizhollywood.com/seminar_videos.php ugg.... seeing myself on video. Fight the video killed the radio star! __________________ http://www.t3report.com (where's the traffic?) v5.0 is out! \| http://www.FightThePatent.com \| ICQ 52741957

03-07-2007, 05:28 PM	#6
FightThisPatent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,090	About half way through Part 5, i ask through a round of applause, who is against .XXX....whole room was clapping. Fight the cliff notes! __________________ http://www.t3report.com (where's the traffic?) v5.0 is out! \| http://www.FightThePatent.com \| ICQ 52741957

03-07-2007, 05:28 PM	#7
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	dedicated to stuart lawley https://youtube.com/watch?v=R0AmCIryu6Q PUKE! kinda fitting. LOL Last edited by seeric; 03-07-2007 at 05:29 PM..

03-07-2007, 05:31 PM	#8
FightThisPatent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,090	In part 5, Stuart Lawley said that if you have your .xxx automatically redirect to your .COM, you are required to use ICRA labelling on the .com!!!!!! If you have your .xxx page that has a link that the surfer must click to go to .com, then you are not required to have ICRA labelling on your .com Fight the cliff notes part duex! __________________ http://www.t3report.com (where's the traffic?) v5.0 is out! \| http://www.FightThePatent.com \| ICQ 52741957

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seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	edited out? yeah wtf up with that? Last edited by seeric; 03-07-2007 at 05:56 PM..

03-07-2007, 05:18 PM	#2
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Thanks,will give it a watch. I heard you had a face for radio lol j/k .

03-07-2007, 05:19 PM	#3
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	haha i can't watch it. he's so full of shit. watched clip one and i wanted to smash my laptop. thats why i didn't go to the panel, i would have shot my mouth off 5 secs into it.

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baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	edited out? WTF?

03-07-2007, 06:24 PM	#15
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	meowwwwww makes sense. Last edited by seeric; 03-07-2007 at 06:25 PM..

03-07-2007, 06:27 PM	#16
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Video lesson 1: always have more tape then you think you will need

03-07-2007, 06:52 PM	#18
TampaToker Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,827	Well just watched the series on 2257. Now if what that agent is saying is true nothing that they require are out of reason. Just watched the second clip of Lawley and was interesting to hear a statement he made that they never said . xxx would help protect children. He stated in the video that it will provide revenue stream to child protection agency's. Does anyone know if you can get a annual report of non profit organizations?

03-07-2007, 09:32 PM	#19
TampaToker Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,827	What the hell is this thread doing on page 2? Folks this is a must watch set of videos clips here. This lays it out right from the horses mouth. I would suggest if you enjoy what you do and wanna protect your business this is a must see. There was alot of things that i was not aware of concerning the .xxx issue. At first like most i was like "hey xbiz why did you invite these guys". But after watching these series of clips it was now and hearing it from the horses mouth we have a very huge issue on hand. Also thanks to xbiz for setting this up, thanks to the FSC lawyer that was on the panel, thanks to Brandon for moderating and thanks to the folks who attended the discussion for acting civil.

03-07-2007, 10:10 PM	#21
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03-08-2007, 12:33 AM	#23
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03-08-2007, 06:35 AM	#25
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03-08-2007, 07:54 AM	#27
FightThisPatent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,090	I am on clip3 of the 2257 panel, and i highly recommend everyone view all of the clips Here is what i got from clip3 already: - you can have more than 1 photo ID. I remember hearing some industry attorneys saying that if you have extra info or other photo pics of the same ID, that it is a problem. the agent clearly says in clip3 its not a problem as long as you have your cross referencing and clear copy of the ID - if you have a sign that says when you are closed for vacation, they will come back.. they aren't expecting you to be chained to the office. clip3 starts with the Q&A a common question with solo girls, is they don't want to put their address on their website for 2257 records. the agent said that an attorney can be the holder of records.... wow... As you listen to the agent, you get a sense they are being practical about things, not trying to target anyone... I have had many meetings with FBI agents over child porn issues with ASACP, and they all are dedicated to protecting children and not about shutting down porn.. that anti-porn rhetoric is at the federal level, and granted that is where they get their marching orders, but so far in the inspection process and on this video, seems to me that if you keep good records, you have nothing to worry about. Fight the cliff notes! __________________ http://www.t3report.com (where's the traffic?) v5.0 is out! \| http://www.FightThePatent.com \| ICQ 52741957

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NinjaSteve Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 11,089	Fight the cliff notes! - That made me laugh. watching these now. __________________ ...

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jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	I'm getting angry just going through the xxx streams again.. Anyone know where my Q&A is? Which clip? __________________ Free agent

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jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	Wow, people think it's that important do they? __________________ Free agent

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03-08-2007, 09:22 PM	#47
FightThisPatent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,090	Fight the learning something from the video clips! __________________ http://www.t3report.com (where's the traffic?) v5.0 is out! \| http://www.FightThePatent.com \| ICQ 52741957

03-09-2007, 07:12 AM	#50
wyldworx So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: oz-trailer Posts: 5,144	Just got through video 4 and have to recommend these clips to all.