50 leg spasms

My girlfriend is a patient woman to put up with my snoring... poor thing

if it occurs while sleeping , like most said, its either apnea or an underlying subconcious exhaustion thing.

For the people with "RLS" while awake and permanent, they either have a syatic nerve problem, parkinsons, MS, or a history with speed or meth and their central nervous system is shot.

Well it's midnight and he's been in bed for 2 hours now... He's set up a matress in the floor of the downstairs family room "just in case" and swears that he's totally cool with it if I give him the *tap tap at any time. I feel kinda bad about it. I'm gonna give this a shot though and know that he won't be uncomfy on the couch like last night.

This has triggered a ton of discussions about the whole history and tradition of sleeping together etc etc and we're finding it's all about perspective like anything else. Generations ago, someone thought it was a good idea or whatever is all.

Why drive yourself to the brink of insanity when it's just as easy to snuggle and watch tv, have sex, read together, etc and then retreat to our own space when it's time to crash?

I liked the comment about making my room like a big pink princess retreat.. we actually started getting pretty creative with weird ideas on how to make it fun if we have to resort to that. We both fell for each other because we're different individuals with different tastes and unique qualities. We may be able to redecorate the "jam room" which is totally huge, downstairs, and on the opposite side of the house, into a really cool sleeping space for him and somewhere I'll love to sneak off to as often as I can...

We shall see.. thanks for any and all advice and input you guys have given today. It could save a life! That's a fact.. lol

Oh and btw I don't believe he has sleep apnea cuz he doesn't seem to stop breathing but I could be wrong...

Oh well.. here I go *sigh.. wish me luck.

I think it was this quote that got people thinking he may have sleep apnea, as it's a classic symptom:

Only need to stop breathing for a split second to "stop breathing." He might want to make a point of asking his doc about it the next time he's in for a visit is all, I'd think.

On the RLS tip, good luck with it... sounds like you're moving in a positive direction. :thumbsup

Yeah mental illness is really fucking funny. Haha let's all laugh at the people that have real issues and need drugs. People do not create mental illnesses to get drugs you dumb bitch. If they just wanted drugs they could get them on the street, it is easy to do.

There is also no such things as brain pills. I guess you would not know that since you have no brain. I can tell by your happy posting that you are a positive person like you claim. Bullshit. That posting was cruel and so negative. I am American and I am not fat or stupid, so speak for yourself. It is apparant that you still have mental issues. Please take a pill and shut the fuck up.

I wish women thought like that...:(

I have RLS and I do wake up cause I cant breath at night. I didnt tell the Doc about the RLS cause I have been dealing with it since I was a very young teen.. I was never able to sit in a movie theater without going completely insane cause I could not sit still...ugh. I find myself twitching my feet to a constant rythym...I am just glad this doesnt wake me up much at night and seems controllable to me now.

I take flonase for the breathing..one shot in each nostril..I can actually breathe and not be awakened throughout the evening...Allergies are my problem.

The doc did give me some sleeping pills , but these suckers are strong. I tried one the other night and couldnt walk after 15 minutes...fuck that shit..use only in case of an emergency.

They do have machines that help people breathe at night for the sleep apnea. Apnea can be caused by being overweight..or it could be something like a deviated septum.

Good luck.

Indeed :2 cents:

I DON?T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN! YOU ARE SO STUPID I AM LAUGHING MY ASS OFF. First I will tell you read what the guy who I quoted said about American's. I was being sarcastic to him for saying all America's are fat. You apparently do not know a fucking thing about who I am or you would know I how much I love America, ask anyone on this board or do a search yourself. You should be quoting the dude who called ALL American's fat.

I hardly call myself a fat American:

http://lorynslounge.com/gfyloryn.jpg

The only reason I posted in this thread was due to the stupid remark that the guy I quoted said, about all America's being fat and if we paid attention to mental illness drugs the way we did to illegal drugs we would be better off. (Those were his words that he said since you apparently are not following how this board works) So that was stupid blind comment number one, you made.

Second comment to point out to you since you apparently lack comprehension skills is to READ IT AGAIN IDIOT!!! The people who do not have metal illness and they PRETEND they do to get fucking drugs THEY DO NOT NEED, are the people I am talking about, not people who are truly sick. You are truly a MORON who only sees what HE WANTS to see not what someone is actually saying. Trust me there are people out there who fake being sick or claim they are sick. I have met several people, why else would they have the term DOCTOR SHOPPERS, which being that you haven?t heard of BRAIN PILLS I am sure you haven?t heard of that term either.

Oh and BTW I do not have any metal illness problems at all. It is very common for women to get anxiety attacks in their late 20's, some women get just one, others get them for a year, and some get them for life. I WAS NOT GOING TO BE ANYONE LIKE THAT I fought it without a BRAIN PILL so I think that would qualify me for mentally strong, which I am sure you know nothing about!!! :)

I have met many strong, smart, stable and extremely successful people who have had anxiety, due to major life changes or other factors, at one point in their life. I am not a name dropper so I won't mention who, but you would be shocked. (Well maybe not you, apparently you have trouble comprehending things.)

I do find it funny that you get pissed about me pointing out people who fake problems and then you call me a stupid for having a few anxiety attacks in my late 20?s. Fucking hypocrite! Go jerk off or something, I have work to do! :321GFY

what she said:thumbsup

Sorry but you are still a stupid bitch. You are not a doctor so you don't know who is faking an illness and who is not. Do you have a medical degree? The brain pills that you refer to do not make people skinner, they actually cause weight gain. So you don't know shit about those drugs either. It seems that you are not very clear in your original posting because it is different from the second one. I know what doctor shoppers are but thay are not looking for paxil, prozac, lexapro, etc. Those are the drugs that people take for mental illnesses. The shoppers are looking for shit like Valium.

So to break it to you but most women do not have anxiety attacks in their late twenties. It is a very small group that it happens to. If you think you are mentally strong and a postive person, I suggest you read your first posting. Laughing at mankind is really positive. I did not call you stupid for having attacks, I called you stupid because you are. Your first posting proved you are an idiot. You can try and back track all you want, but you are still an idiot.

ok dude, we get it, your a fat, drug addled, shut in.

i used to think that RLS was bullshit until a friend of mine got drunk and passed out on my couch.

about 15-20 minutes later his legs just started spasming and shaking uncontrollably. it was one of the stranger things ive ever seen and i could only imagine how awful it would be to have to sleep next to that every night.

best of luck to you rrred

I had the same issues when I was a little younger. I'd have really bad anxiety attacks for no reason at all. I decided I wasn't going to take pills for it, and just worked through the issues on my own. I like to think I am much happier and stable because of that decision.

Shut up jackass. The womens posting was rude and fucked up.

You make me sick. Your posting is so negative. I do not know one person that makes up a mental illness to get drugs. You can get drugs so easily, without a doctor. How do you know this girl is not really sick? I am also sorry to break it to you but most of the drugs for mental illnesses cause weight gain, not weight loss. Your friend must be on something else if she is so skinny.

It is always so funny to laugh at people with a drug addiction. That is such a funny thing. I have panic attacks and I take one of those drugs you like to laugh at. They do not fuck with your brain. They help you live a normal life. Those silly dumb drugs help millions of people lead a normal life. If you never took any of those drugs, you do not have the right to say what they do. You can't speak from personal knowledge. I am happy that you were able to get better without drugs, but many people can not. To laugh about that is cold and very mean. I would also like to know how a mental illness can go to far. Please share your vast wisdom with me.

If you think you are a positive person then you need to reread this posting. There is nothing positive in it. In fact it is very negative. You need to learn some compassion because this posting by itself makes you seem like a cold bitch.

Sorry but it is not common for women to have anxiety attacks in their late twenties. That happens to a very small group of women and it is usually genetic. You really have no clue what the hell you are talking about. There are drugs, not brain pills. Not taking drugs does not make you menatally strong. People that take drugs are not weak. I am willing to bet that your attacks are no where near the level of attacks the people that have to take drugs have. I know a lot about this subject but it is clear that you do not. Can you even name any of the brain pills and what they do?

Wow you are a dumb cunt. Both of your postings are full of such shit. I don't think you would know what positive was if it slapped you in your face. You should not laugh at other people's problems. It just makes you look bad. That picture may not show a fat person, but it sure as hell shows a very ugly person on the inside. You should just shut up because you have no clue about what you are talking about.

Dude are you really one to talk? I know him and he is not fat or on drugs. Maybe he is just annoyed by a dumb bitch that does not have a clue about what she is posting. Her postings are full of shit.

She can't name the pills because she is not on them. Remember she is so strong that she did not need drugs. She just likes to laugh at man kind and be positive. Didn't you feel the love in her postings? LOL

Yes, yes I am. Now take your 4 posts and run along. This board isn't really for surfers.

Loryn, you've got to be more sensitive, babe.

his industry is full of shut ins and social misfits. That segment of the population has certainly used drugs of one kind or another to cope.






shit, was I just insensitive?

Not insensitive, just an ass. I am not a misfit or a shut in. I have panic attacks which I can't help because the are genetic. I do not appreciate people finding that funny. You try and live with it and see how funny it is. It sucks.

shit, I WAS going for insensitive.

Sorry to burst your bubble but I am not a surfer. I work in porn. I just have to finish my profile dumbass. The only misfit I see on here your is your ugly ass. :)

Well you win for limp dick of the year. Is that better? I am way more of a dick then you could ever even hope to be ass wipe.

Well I agree with you on that Tassy. I do think that the drug companies have to much power. I do think it is wrong of A1R3K and Loryn to think that people make up shit just for drugs. To laugh at people with an illness is so not cool.

Just sleep in seperate beds..Jesus Christ...

oh my! will it be finished soon?????
I'm dying to know what you do! are you one of those people who uses html to put naked pictures on the interweb?

JaneB
buck30
BitchBuster


All similar writing styles.... things that make you go hmmmmm :glugglug

please, surfer. tough talk doesn't impress anyone here. do you have any idea how many of your kind I've seen come and go?
hahahaha, I already know what you'll do here and how you'll leave here. Hell, I can even take a good guess at what brand fries you'll be cooking after failing here.

Try Valerian root.. it is often used as a natural remedy for restless leg syndrome, it's non-addictive with no side-affects. It smells HORRIBLE even in caplet form, but the smell is worth the relief.

RLS is tough. i know peeps who've had it. he needs to see his MD sooner rather than later. there are some meds for this. sleep on the sofa once he falls asleep. no point in both being sleep deprived. good luck.

Red, I have restless leg syndrome as well and sadly girl, there is no cure. It's a synapse thing in the brain. I hate it. I feel like I'm going to jump out of my fucking skin when I get it and after 30 mins of it I just get up and stay up half the night until I forget about it. The best a person can do is do a shit load of walking before the night is near and tire the leg muscles and exhaust the brain. Also.. if at any time a person thinks about their affliction it will immediately start happening. The best way is to somehow distract him from thinking about it.. tv or music to fall asleep to is a good start.

panic attacks are not genetic. They're habit formed. I've suffered with them for many years and finally went to 'course' that teaches one how to break the habits that cause panic attacks and habits that turn a minor "weird" feeling into a panic attack.

find a doctor that will prescribe him oxycontin...80mg before bedtime should do the trick...

NOTE: See a doctor before trying for mentioned remedy.

I have sleep apnea. I felt like shit everyday for 15 years, I finally complained to the right doctor and he sent me to a sleep clinic. I stopped breathing 45 times an hour which would wake me up. I now sleep with a CPAP machine that has a mask that you wear at night. The pressure from the machine keeps your airway open and allows you to sleep without waking up.

You have two type of sleep apnea. ?Obstructive ?this type requires a CPAP to keep the airways open. Basically, your airway closes and it prevents you from breathing.
?Central? the brain is not functioning correctly and will require meds.

This is a serious condition that will lead to long term health problems, you must seek medical advice.

Tim

RRRed

I just happened to catch an ad on the local New Orleans stations - seems the medicine they have been prescribing for RLS is causing heart valve problems and I must have seen 3 different ads from different law firms wanting to take on "your case" if youve ever taken medication for RLS

[QUOTE=iwantchixx;12043323]panic attacks are not genetic. They're habit formed. I've suffered with them for many years and finally went to 'course' that teaches one how to break the habits that cause panic attacks and habits that turn a minor "weird" feeling into a panic attack.[/QUOT

You can have panic attacks gentically. Not everyone that has them are genetic carriers, but many people are. There are no courses to learn to deal with panic attacks, unless they are taught by a quack. There are shrinks that teach patients behavorial techniques, but that is not a course. That is called therapy. Please tell me how you can break the habit when doctors do not even know why a person suddenly gets panic attacks. They do not know what triggers them all of a sudden. If doctors can not answer that question, then neither can you.

Sorry but I am not the other two. I post only for me. I think you should be bright enough to see that I do not cuss like the other two. That is not my style, and people that know me could tell you that. Plus plenty of people on here know Buck30(Greg)from Forums. So I am not sure where you are trying to go with that, but we are three seperate people.

Not everyone that suffers from panic disorders have them genetically, but you can be a genetic carrier. Please read below about genetics. You can read more at http://www.athealth.com/Consumer/dis...nih_panic.html I am surprised that a panic attack suffer would not be more informed on the condition he suffers from.


Genetics. Panic disorder runs in families. One study has shown that if one twin in a genetically identical pair has panic disorder, it is likely that the other twin will also. Fraternal, or non-identical twin pairs do not show this high degree of "concordance" with respect to panic disorder. Thus, it appears that some genetic factor, in combination with environment, may be responsible for vulnerability to this condition.

NIMH-supported scientists are studying families in which several individuals have panic disorder. The aim of these studies is to identify the specific gene or genes involved in the condition. Identification of these genes may lead to new approaches for diagnosing and treating panic disorder.

I agree with what you are saying Tassy. I think some people fake an illness or injury to get certain medications. I do not however think it is funny. If you are that desperate to get a drug that you have to fake an illness, then you have an addiction problem. I was more annoyed that they seem to find mental illness and people addicted to drugs funny. Neither are funny conditions and it is pathetic to laugh at people because of them.

thats what Sybil said too.

Yeah she said that because she has multiple personalities. People with panic attacks do not have that. Plus plenty of people on here know Greg, who is Buck30. They can vouch he is real and not me. I think your problem is you think that you are funny but you really are not. If you keep trying you may get a real sense of humor at some point. There is always hope. :)

Are you retarded? We are not the same people. Jane knows a lot of the people on this forum. She has worked with them. I know a lot of people on the forum as well. I think you need to get a grip on reality pal.

I am just going from the title - the thread has got too long :)

If its caused by use of antiphycotic drugs you can get a pill that helps a lot - I just cant remember what it is bloody called - it begins with 'c' - give me 5 and I will look it up.

If its not because of that then I cant help - sorry.

Thats what Sybil said.:1orglaugh