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Old 03-08-2007, 08:31 AM   #101
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As i said above i highly doubt the US goverments would force citizens into battle at gun point.They cant and wont force anyone to go to war.

Do you dispute the goverment lied to the US people about WMD in iraq? Knowing that fact if a drat was put into place you would still go and fight?

If i was drafted to a war that was not on US soil or did not directly threaten The USA ..then there is no way i would go.Brand me whatever name you like,draft dodger,coward,objector..whatever...point is america was founded on standing up for what you belive in and freedom.I see it as my duty to my country to maintain these values...If not am i a realy free?Am i really what an American is suppose to be? ..me thinks not
Whatever. All I'm saying is that it is my understanding that when there is a draft in the USA, you as a person who falls within that draft do NOT have a choice in the matter. I'm not arguing that it's right or wrong, I'm just stating what I know. They don't come to each person of draft age and say "Would you like to come help out?"... no, they send you a notice telling you to report. They tell you when to report, and they tell you where to report.

I can't see the issue being up for debate when a draft is being conducted.


And yes, it's a scary notion, but I suppose it's also a question of whether or not you trust your leaders enough to give them the benefit of the doubt when they obviously should have more intel on a situation going on in the world than you do. A threat may not be right on US soil but I can think of certain instances in history where a lot of Americans were willingly drafted and fought overseas for the USA and for the cause of world freedom. Good thing very few back in the early 1940's adopted your stance of "Well, the Germans arn't attacking us on US soil so fuck the draft. Once they get here THEN I'll fight"

However, I would hope that no future draft would be instituted without a similar legitimate reason as that of the WWII era.
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Old 03-08-2007, 06:02 PM   #102
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sad how the noble values of sacrifice have been lost with this generation.
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No need to draft me, I'm already in.

Haven't been overthere yet, though.

Don't judge us all at once. I haven't been to combat yet, but I'd be hard pressed to say I haven't sacrificed something.

If you don't believe me, ask my wife if you see her, cause I haven't seen her months.

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Old 03-08-2007, 06:13 PM   #103
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Scoring high on the ASVAB and other military tests generally gets you on a Staff command, not on the front lines. I never went on a ship except for in-port inspections during my six years in the Navy. The rest of the time I was mostly a desk jockey that got to travel around Asia on the taxpayers dime banging local hookers (not a bad gig if you can get it).

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Amen to that, I spent my whole career as a Network Defense Specialist. Had my own desk and worked monday thru friday, 7:30 to 4:30 you cant beat that, besides i did a lot of traveling for training, education, etc god those where the good times, then again I got to some pretty shitty stuff once in a while because of my low rank but everyone goes thru that, just part of the chain.
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Old 03-08-2007, 07:07 PM   #104
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Fuck getting drafted,,, I'd go join voluntarily..

Fucking love to shoot motherfuckers.. There's nothing in the world like blasting fuckers in the face with .50 cal bullets .. fucking watch their towels turn red,,,

the first time us was at war with Iraq, I was on uncle sam's doorstep begging to go...

too bad I had a legal problem that stopped me from going.. scored 98% on the ASVAB.. fucking was so pissed I couldn't go.
Try again. I just got out after two tours of iraq. They'd love to send your ass right over there.

Dont believe the shit you see on TV. Its war.
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Old 03-13-2007, 05:48 PM   #105
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Old 03-13-2007, 05:50 PM   #106
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Old 03-13-2007, 05:55 PM   #107
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I did 4 years in the submarine service, my daughter is in the Navy now! She wanted to Join the army at first, I told her that part of the uniform was a bullit proof vest, she went in the navy
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