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Ashley Brookes ( AshCash.net ) -- You Getting your Sales???

We noticed that the pre-signup form refreshes, thought that was strange!
tour2.ashleybrookes.com/join.html (click the link and wait a second, watch URL at the top)
We also noticed it changed from CCBILL to NATS..
If you fill in the info on the NEW page
ab.adultdimensions.com/signup/signup.php?nats=MDowOjE&step=2
and click to go to the CCBILL join page, you will now see your code is NOT in the source anymore.

Also, since it is switching to the NATS system, shouldn't the affiliates be able to JOIN the NATS system.
currently on Ashcash.net the only JOIN thing we can find is to CCBILL, which no one seems to be getting credit for!

We have viewed source and looked for the code, all recorded on video.

We have even cleared all temp files, cookies, and so on, clicked a ccbill link (only thing offered)
Did a TEST signup, checked CCBILL stats, immediately after, one hour after, and 24 hours after, No sales!

We were contacted by concerned affiliates, we also have contacted several people asking if they have had sales in the last couple months.

Now I would think you would notice after a week and programming error, that almost NO one is getting paid....
and if NATS is NOW tracking, WHAT??? AshCash.net is not offering you any URLS to use the NATS system.


All her tours replace the codes, it is being forced in....Examples ...

i174.photobucket.com/albums/w88/gfyrules/before-refresh.jpg

My code is present on the page before it refreshes and the forced refresh is knocking my code out and replacing it with theirs right from the start....

i174.photobucket.com/albums/w88/gfyrules/after-refresh.jpg

Post your ratios before this year, and after the first of the year....
Anyone find any thing else? Am I right here?

I am just bringing fwd what I have found, along with several others.
CCBILL and NATS are only being used here, and they each should address the problem. One of those companies has been contacted already.

No, I did not contact Ashley on this matter, it has gone on long enough, to see you are not paying out on the ccbill side, or writing checks to affiliate with NATS .....

Lee

Cue the sigwhores...

cybermike

I stoped promoting her after all the drama

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PornoMonster

Had to take out the Links..
Just add the (h t t p : / /)

tranza

Damn, that's fucked up....

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collegegirlscash

why do people keep fucking with her dead ass. try some new college girls

BradM

Ash dropped off the Earth, she has a habit of doing that.

Trax

bye bye nats license I would say...

JD

fucking lame. heard about that earlier today

Porko

I just delete all the Ashley Brookes galls from my sites,
thanks for the advice

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_Richard_

To bad you didn't notice sooner Good luck!

R

tenderobject

have you check adultdimensions.com domain? i think theyre switching sponsors?

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pocketkangaroo

Weird you bring this up, I just noticed this last night when I noticed her conversions were non-existent. Didn't look hard enough to figure out what she was doing, but I guess it's a way of scamming affiliates.

Bake

If you were sending her traffic you deserve what you get she is a flake

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Well thank you for taking the time to show how little you know about how things work... Good thing you posted with a fake Nick

CCbill would be in big trouble if their affiliate system was that easy to defeat...

All traffic goes through CCBill first...

Example: http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...leybrookes.com


CCBill sets a tracking cookie and then uses that to track sales.

This can not be defeated on the tour site...

All webmasters are getting credit for all sales and rebills...

The fact that its currently going through the Nats system has nothing to do with it. The Nats system is currently only being used for membership control and some extra stats...

and Yes, Ashcash.net will be AdultDimensions.com soon...

but it was an interesting read.... but thats about it....

StuBradley

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wyldblyss

I think that girl gets around more than a merry-go-round. She is cute, she is sweet, she is adorable.....but promoting her is risky...you just never know when she will up and switch things around. I swear she switches things more often than most men switch underwear

RawAlex

Mike69, so what you are saying is "yes, traffic is being tracked properly, so you can assume that sales truly are that bad?"

I feel lucky I never got involved with that whole deal.

PornoMonster

Can ANY ONE post any sales in Feb 07????

PornoMonster

Hits in ccbill yes, signups no.... not on my test signups, and well my sales are no more. Have also asked others, and same thing....

Mutt

AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH

Yes Mike is a genius programmer - he knows EXACTLY what he did and what the effect was on his and her affiliates and here it is - watch closely people and follow along right until the end.

http://www.bratcash.com/ashleybrookes_affiliates

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Mike69

Im looking at CCBill right now... nothing wrong with sales... sales are great..
rebills are even better

StuBradley

Perhaps she is using those new Paul Markham 'magic join links'?

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Mike69

Thanks Mutt !!

but no programmer can overwrite an other domain's cookie in a standard browser...

and CCBill can pick up the Cookie data any time it needs to, it does not need to put it into a form... and any web programmer knows that..

PornoMonster

HAHA, I spit my drink on the screen.
I bet the are great for YOU!
How about affiliate sales!

Mutt

hahahhaha - let's go back to that 40 signups a day bullshit again Mike. She and you have nothing - if you're doing 3 signups a day then I'm doing 100 - oh wait I am - well you get the point.


http://www.bratcash.com/ashleybrookes_affiliates

watch the video - it contains the TRUTH. hilarious that you thought you could get away with this.

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PornoMonster

Where is my cookie??? Ha, signups work 4 every other sponsor I have tested... Yours are special huh...

BradM

Mike is a bullshit artist.

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Mutt

I want CCBILL in here and John from NATS - because you brought their software into this sordid mess - let's find out the TRUTH.

http://www.bratcash.com/ashleybrookes_affiliates <------- the truth

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RyanL

Yeah I bet sales are looking great.... since affiliates aren't being paid for them!

CCBill is tracking hits coming in for individual affiliates but they are not being credited with the sales! The affiliate ID's are not being carried over to the join pages!

The video Mutt posted proves this!

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TampaToker

Ah sorry mutt you are wrong i know for a fact that she was doing 40 plus a day...

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Mike69

Im happy for ya Mutt, and the convo about 40 a day was last year...
she's not doing quite that much any more, but I stopped working with it mostly.. I have other things going on here in Vegas, but still help her out.

but the Nats thing can not effect the CCBill system no matter how hard you try to say it does... CCBill would be the joke of the industry if it was that easy...

pocketkangaroo

And what the fuck was up with that join page? It doesn't even tell you what you're buying.

corvette

As we were mentioned in this thread I will comment that we will check out this information and address it with our client, if need be. As a matter of policy, we do not publicly comment on client specific issues such as what this seems to be.

But at this point, our technical people are checking this out

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Mike69

correct I'm on the phone with ccbill right now and we are going over the system....

Mike69

But as a matter of face, I authorise CCBill to disclose publicly, anything that they see, where they think that I may have been trying to defeat their system..

PornoMonster

On the Phone with CCBILL??
Thought everything was peachy...

CC

How do you explain the *0 affiliate code?

rowan

I loaded an FHG with my refid on it and clicked from there. I can confirm that my refid does not show on the ccbill join page. Deliberate or not, something is wrong.

<input type=hidden name=ccbill_referer value='*0'>

Mike69

This has nothing what so ever to do with Nats....

rowan

Something is definitely going on... when I tried a second time the screen where you choose the payment method loaded then immediately changed to the screen where you enter your preliminary details. This time my refid showed on the join page

Third try, it's back to *0

pocketkangaroo

It looks like whatever going on has been changed. It was refreshing through another page before going to the join page. Now it is going straight to the signup form.

PornoMonster

I figured they would change it, good thing we have someone with a video of start to finish and checking of ccbill stats....

pocketkangaroo

I don't really know if it was intentional or not. We ran a test signup sometime between Sunday and Today and it still hasn't shown up in CCBill as a sale. Maybe it will eventually.

rowan

That may be a return visit thing to streamline the process of someone who is having difficulty signing up. As per above my second and third tries were different.

pocketkangaroo

Good catch. Lets hope everything is kosher and it's just bad conversion rates.

PornoMonster

NOPE it doesn't and NATS is not going to Pay me from my CCBILL codes....
You can not tell me the sales that should show up in CCBILL are stored in NATS, till what I signup on NATS???

When I say NATS I do mean the Version on your servers, not the company!