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  • PornoMonster
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2003
    • 2257

    #46
    Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
    It looks like whatever going on has been changed. It was refreshing through another page before going to the join page. Now it is going straight to the signup form.

    I figured they would change it, good thing we have someone with a video of start to finish and checking of ccbill stats....
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    • pocketkangaroo
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2005
      • 8452

      #47
      Originally posted by PornoMonster
      I figured they would change it, good thing we have someone with a video of start to finish and checking of ccbill stats....
      I don't really know if it was intentional or not. We ran a test signup sometime between Sunday and Today and it still hasn't shown up in CCBill as a sale. Maybe it will eventually.

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      • rowan
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Mar 2002
        • 17393

        #48
        Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
        It looks like whatever going on has been changed. It was refreshing through another page before going to the join page. Now it is going straight to the signup form.
        That may be a return visit thing to streamline the process of someone who is having difficulty signing up. As per above my second and third tries were different.

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        • pocketkangaroo
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2005
          • 8452

          #49
          Originally posted by rowan
          That may be a return visit thing to streamline the process of someone who is having difficulty signing up. As per above my second and third tries were different.
          Good catch. Lets hope everything is kosher and it's just bad conversion rates.

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          • PornoMonster
            Confirmed User
            • Mar 2003
            • 2257

            #50
            Originally posted by Mike69
            This has nothing what so ever to do with Nats....
            NOPE it doesn't and NATS is not going to Pay me from my CCBILL codes....
            You can not tell me the sales that should show up in CCBILL are stored in NATS, till what I signup on NATS???

            When I say NATS I do mean the Version on your servers, not the company!
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            • PornoMonster
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2003
              • 2257

              #51
              Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
              I don't really know if it was intentional or not. We ran a test signup sometime between Sunday and Today and it still hasn't shown up in CCBill as a sale. Maybe it will eventually.
              I called CCBILL and they said if the system is slow it should only take 30 minutes at the MOST.. Maybe a New Tech???
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              • Mike69
                Canadian, nuff said eh?
                • Jul 2000
                • 755

                #52
                Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                It looks like whatever going on has been changed. It was refreshing through another page before going to the join page. Now it is going straight to the signup form.
                Bullshit nothings been touched...

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                • mikeyddddd
                  Viva la vulva!
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 16557

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Mike69
                  Bullshit...
                  Yes, it is.

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                  • 1hoho
                    Confirmed User
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 225

                    #54
                    anyone think it may be accidental? it just may be
                    nats is affiliate tracking not members as someone said earlier, and not always the most user friendly setup...

                    the way it works for anyone who has never done an install is that nats assigns a nats ID to affiliates that sign up through system... that ID gets passed to CCbill, ccbill, after the sale, will do a post back to the nats database to credit said affiliate with the nats code... NOT the ccbill code, the ccbill code normally is not used so affiliates do not get paid twice... yes, ccbill will set cookies, but the ref code passed is what gets sale. ref code of "0" as the company itself.

                    however... I have seen many people do stuff like this accidentally and most people will use seperate tours for both affiliate management systems or map ccbill codes to nats ID's.

                    if they are mapping nats ID to old ccbill code, it then may be fine

                    not takin sides here... just sayin maybe an accident if they just changed over and need to fix it... thats all... hate gettin involved in stuff like this... but just had to
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                    • rowan
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Mar 2002
                      • 17393

                      #55
                      So you're saying that a post to the ccbill join page can override the refid cookie set by refer.ccbill.com? The site owner can pass their own refid?

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                      • pocketkangaroo
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 8452

                        #56
                        I don't really know about the passing of codes or any of this stuff. I just know that the test sale we ran didn't go through.

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                        • PornoMonster
                          Confirmed User
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 2257

                          #57
                          Originally posted by 1hoho
                          anyone think it may be accidental? it just may be
                          nats is affiliate tracking not members as someone said earlier, and not always the most user friendly setup...

                          the way it works for anyone who has never done an install is that nats assigns a nats ID to affiliates that sign up through system... that ID gets passed to CCbill, ccbill, after the sale, will do a post back to the nats database to credit said affiliate with the nats code... NOT the ccbill code, the ccbill code normally is not used so affiliates do not get paid twice... yes, ccbill will set cookies, but the ref code passed is what gets sale. ref code of "0" as the company itself.

                          however... I have seen many people do stuff like this accidentally and most people will use seperate tours for both affiliate management systems or map ccbill codes to nats ID's.

                          if they are mapping nats ID to old ccbill code, it then may be fine

                          not takin sides here... just sayin maybe an accident if they just changed over and need to fix it... thats all... hate gettin involved in stuff like this... but just had to

                          Maybe one of us missed something!
                          First of all, all that is offered on ashcash is CCBILL Signup and codes.
                          And here is where I get lost, if you go from ccbill to NATS, you dont have to signup on NATS? Some how the program owner can get ccbill to give all my info to them to import to NATS, so this program owner can send me a check, that I have no access to login, since I nver signed up to NATS?

                          Yes, programs do run Different TOURS for the different programs, but NOT switch it at the pre join page.

                          Maybe that is Something new that is being offered, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it...
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                          • pornpf69
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 15782

                            #58
                            Originally posted by cybermike
                            I stoped promoting her after all the drama
                            which drama?

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                            • 1hoho
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 225

                              #59
                              Originally posted by rowan
                              So you're saying that a post to the ccbill join page can override the refid cookie set by refer.ccbill.com? The site owner can pass their own refid?
                              what I know... from quite a few setups is that they prevent double billing... if a ref code is passed by way of nats to ccbill, ccbill takes that code as the ref. and will post that info back to the systems nats database to credit the affiliate... if the code passed is "0"... that means... No affiliate..

                              If both held true...CCbill cookies and seperate ref code... then affiliate will be paid 2 times... 1 time by the nats system and once by ccbill. you can not have both... and from my experience the last code got it... which if "0" was passed would be the last code.

                              a nats install... assumes you will be paying affiliates yourself... you make checks. not biller. can not get paid from both

                              all I was saying is that I have seen it happen many times by mistake because someone missed a small thing in the install or just plain f'd it up
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                              • 1hoho
                                Confirmed User
                                • Apr 2005
                                • 225

                                #60
                                Originally posted by PornoMonster
                                Maybe one of us missed something!
                                First of all, all that is offered on ashcash is CCBILL Signup and codes.
                                And here is where I get lost, if you go from ccbill to NATS, you dont have to signup on NATS? Some how the program owner can get ccbill to give all my info to them to import to NATS, so this program owner can send me a check, that I have no access to login, since I nver signed up to NATS?

                                Yes, programs do run Different TOURS for the different programs, but NOT switch it at the pre join page.

                                Maybe that is Something new that is being offered, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it...
                                thats what I am sayin... you would need a nats code by signing up to nats, or it gets messed up because the wrong info gets posted back and no affiliates get paid... or that is how I know it to work... maybe they found some other way
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