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danclips 03-08-2007 01:25 PM

It's truly a shame that you feel the need to resort to this. Anyone that has done business with hotmovies, moviedollars, or clips.com knows that we can let our reputation speak for itself.

Why someone would go to such an extreme as creating multiple sceen names and then having a conversation with himself on an internet message board is beyond me.

The only accurate thing that you have written in your posts is that we requested model release information for your clips. Which you said that you did not have.

Barefootsies 03-08-2007 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floridadave (Post 12040779)
I think requesting model releases is fair yes, but not just out of the blue, I'm here in Florida and I shoot many girls, I think over the past 8 years I shot over 1000 girls, if I upload a 1000 videos, there is no way in hell I'm faxing over all my releases to some dude that just out of the blue wants to see them and possibly steal them for his own use on his own site, and I agree with DVD, for almost 200 dollars it wouldn't be worth the time. Bottom line if you don't trust your client or your store owner then don't wait till he racks up money to then just kill his store and reap his rewards. Also to my understanding unless athorities are requesting model 2257 info or the owner of eligal content is reqesting it, it shouldn't even become an issue.

Just my 2cents, I'm done with this topic it's silly - I'll stick with clips4sale.com


TRUE DAT

danclips 03-08-2007 02:17 PM

what about when ownership of distribution rights is in question?

polle54 03-08-2007 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by js_nice_guy (Post 12018983)
I could post the entire conversation with dvd420, but you know I'm not a big shit talker.

dvd420 uploaded content that was questionable. We asked for him to prove that he had the rights to use it. He refused and said if we didn't pay him he would start a bunch of shit on gfy and other boards.

I don't take well to threats.

Clips.com is a great new product and we're growing. If you have content, that you have rights to, we'll be happy to help you monitize it.


LOL I just signed up... I think of this as a very possible truth :thumbsup

Martin3 03-08-2007 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danclips (Post 12041801)
what about when ownership of distribution rights is in question?

Don't worry about it, some people just don't have the reading comprehension skills to properly follow a thread. You probably wouldn't want to deal with those people anyways.

polle54 03-08-2007 02:56 PM

can someone check to see why I haven't got a confirmation email...

danclips 03-08-2007 03:00 PM

polle54,
Catch me on icq 241-169-479

DaddyHalbucks 03-08-2007 03:02 PM

Clips.com/ Movie Dollars is a great sponsor.

:2 cents:

Tat2Jr 03-08-2007 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danclips (Post 12041558)
Why someone would go to such an extreme as creating multiple sceen names and then having a conversation with himself on an internet message board is beyond me.

It's just so painfully obvious. I wonder why people don't realize that everyone can see right through them - well...... everyone, but their imaginary friends that is! ;)

danclips 03-08-2007 03:36 PM

to sign up as a provider at clips.com or just to get more info, follow the link in my sig :)

Vittorio 03-08-2007 04:47 PM

THIS THREAD IS FUCKING BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!

I have been doing business with Clips.com/ hotmovies.com / movie dollars.com collectively known as National A-1 for over 6 YEARS!!!!

They are the fucking BOMB and some of the nicest and most trustworthy people in the Biz! EVERYONE who knows this industry KNOWS THAT!

James is the SHIT! And so are all his cohorts. Christ, they SPONSOR almost every huge event the industry has. Yeah, they are going to fuck their reputation because some idiot gives them "questionable content".

DVD420, you are a FUCKTARD, because as you quoted herein "In this case yes I have model releases for some of my content and a website license for the rest." That is PURE BULLSHIT. You need model releases for ALL your content AND having a "website license" from some other producer you "licensed" the content from does NOT give you the rights to use it for PPV or VOD unless STATED in License. And normal a standard "website" license does NOT.

Clips.com nailed you easy and that's why you come cryin' here. It makes you look like an IDIOT though. But hey, there are PLENTY of idiots on this board who shoot themselves in the foot over and over. Anyone Remember SOBE?

Vittorio 03-08-2007 07:09 PM

Bump... I hate being the last person when something important was said.

dvd420 03-10-2007 07:13 PM

I've made some good money already with clips4sale.com, they also have images4sale.com and videos4sale.com where you can sell your image sets and DVD's as well. The guy that runs it has answered every one of my emails the same day I sent them and within the hour in fact. I would say A+ for customer service. My rule of thumb is "Try and Die" or "Know and Earn" money that is. Clips4sale.com paid me already for last month. I got my money on time even before the 7th when checks are saposed to actually go out!!! Amazing site hands down.

RevSand 03-10-2007 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dvd420 (Post 12052882)
I've made some good money already with clips4sale.com, they also have images4sale.com and videos4sale.com where you can sell your image sets and DVD's as well. The guy that runs it has answered every one of my emails the same day I sent them and within the hour in fact. I would say A+ for customer service. My rule of thumb is "Try and Die" or "Know and Earn" money that is. Clips4sale.com paid me already for last month. I got my money on time even before the 7th when checks are saposed to actually go out!!! Amazing site hands down.

Hit me up sometime.. Maybe we can exchange banner links on our stores.. :thumbsup

Barefootsies 03-10-2007 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RevSand (Post 12052920)
Hit me up sometime.. Maybe we can exchange banner links on our stores.. :thumbsup

:GFYBand

Niktamer 03-10-2007 07:57 PM

i had fun reading this .

junkiefred 03-20-2007 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dvd420 (Post 12037575)
40 % is all they pay, and they make you sign a huge 30 page contract which is made to nothing but take your money. You have to snail mail it in which sucks and was a big waste of time, but everyone deserves a try, I guess I'm the one that had to take it in the ass for the team. No worries tho because I'll never even look at their program again.

Seems like the folks you stole your content from are the ones taking it in the ass.

You certainly aren't on my team, and please stop associating yourself with legitimate hard working folks.

Go Fuck Yourself, you content stealing jizz bag. :mad:

Barefootsies 03-20-2007 06:53 AM

I'd like to see the traffic numbers between C4S and Clips.

I know that Neil does a lot to generate a lot of traffic to C4S. I'm not sure where Clips ranks by comparison.

:2 cents:

darling2 03-20-2007 07:05 AM

I think extorting money like this is nasty.

Kudos to clips.com to keep their content legal

junkiefred 03-20-2007 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvd420 (Post 12037977)
In this case yes I have model releases for some of my content and a website license for the rest. They didn't want to accept what I was prepared to send them.

Seems to me there's a difference between owning the content, and having a website license. You can't resell content with a website license dipshit.:321GFY

junkiefred 03-20-2007 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvd420 (Post 12052882)
I've made some good money already with clips4sale.com, they also have images4sale.com and videos4sale.com where you can sell your image sets and DVD's as well. The guy that runs it has answered every one of my emails the same day I sent them and within the hour in fact. I would say A+ for customer service. My rule of thumb is "Try and Die" or "Know and Earn" money that is. Clips4sale.com paid me already for last month. I got my money on time even before the 7th when checks are saposed to actually go out!!! Amazing site hands down.

Doesn't say much for clips4sale in my book if they are selling stolen content.

I looked at your website, I wonder if NastyDollars and Evil Empire know what you are doing with their content, maybe I'll just drop them a line.

junkiefred 03-20-2007 08:21 AM

Damn, hearing shit like this really fucks up my day.

Some dick wad with stolen content bashing an upstanding, hardworking, legitimate company.

Hotmovies is huge, I see them everywhere, so I doubt this loser will have even the slightest impact on thier bottom line.

SMV, guys like you don't last long in this business. Crying over $183, it seems like you're already on your way out the door. Good riddance, on less cockroach I need to deal with.

webgeek 03-20-2007 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dvd420 (Post 12014520)
Their system starting messing up so I complained again asking why their upload system was messing up, the customer service was rotten to say the least so I removed all of my files from their system. They then shut off my account so no one could see my uploads and told me they were not paying me.

I wonder what's clips.com's side of the story on this.
no offence to dvd420 , I just wonder what were they thinking while doing this.

webgeek 03-20-2007 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webgeek (Post 12115565)
I wonder what's clips.com's side of the story on this.
no offence to dvd420 , I just wonder what were they thinking while doing this.

:1orglaugh I posted quick without reading the rest of the thread.

Barefootsies 03-20-2007 10:37 AM

Clips4Sale
http://alexa.com/data/details/traffi...clips4sale.com
60&#37; sales --> content producer


Clips.com
http://alexa.com/data/details/traffi...?url=clips.com
40% sales --> content producer?

:helpme

junkiefred 03-21-2007 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 12116274)
Clips4Sale
60% sales --> content producer


Clips.com
40% sales --> content producer?

:helpme


Barefootsies/dvd420 or whatever handle your using today, why don't you give it up?

From what I hear from everyone other than your self posts, is that clips/hotmovies are the shit. People are making good money with them, and your just pissed they caught you stealing.:1orglaugh

Go home and play with your XBox, or did you finally sell it to pay your rent?

Barefootsies 03-21-2007 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by junkiefred (Post 12124037)
Barefootsies/dvd420 or whatever handle your using today, why don't you give it up?

From what I hear from everyone other than your self posts, is that clips/hotmovies are the shit. People are making good money with them, and your just pissed they caught you stealing.:1orglaugh

Go home and play with your XBox, or did you finally sell it to pay your rent?

Go fuck yourself pal. I do not know who DVD is, or you.

I was simply asking a question in this thread on this clips company. I've not said anything good, or bad about them since I haven't a clue about them. I can speak to Neil, and C4S.

I shoot my own content, and have for years motherfucker. So you obviously don't have a fucking clue who you are talking to.

Now go pound it up your head back up your asshat.

As for your claims of "good money" if 40% of the take is good money, I'll stick with clips4sale.

HighSociety 03-21-2007 02:06 PM

I was emailed by a customer that bought custom videos from me, he told me he saw one of my videos on another clip site, that is how I found the site, well anyway I see my video being sold and doing very well, I email the site owner and get a fast reply, He said the person who listed the clip told him I let him list it LOL, I was like what the fuck are you talking about, the girls are exclusive and everything else, my clip stayed up there for days while I argued with him about my video being stolen. I said get a model release, get anything from him that says I let him do anything with it, the fucking video even had an old watermark on it from a domain I still own. I wasted a lot of my time to get that one video removed. Clips.com would go out of their way to protect me and my time. I am glad they look over the contect and make sure the correct person is listing it. Many big companies do not bother with the clips stores so it would be easy to slip a few in.
I make the same with both sites right now, yeah the clips4sale has more traffic and also has 300,000 clips on the site. Not sure on clips.com numbers but if they have 10 times less traffic and 15,000 clips you can do the numbers

Barefootsies 03-21-2007 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by made2ordervideos (Post 12125030)
I was emailed by a customer that bought custom videos from me, he told me he saw one of my videos on another clip site, that is how I found the site, well anyway I see my video being sold and doing very well, I email the site owner and get a fast reply, He said the person who listed the clip told him I let him list it LOL, I was like what the fuck are you talking about, the girls are exclusive and everything else, my clip stayed up there for days while I argued with him about my video being stolen. I said get a model release, get anything from him that says I let him do anything with it, the fucking video even had an old watermark on it from a domain I still own. I wasted a lot of my time to get that one video removed. Clips.com would go out of their way to protect me and my time. I am glad they look over the contect and make sure the correct person is listing it. Many big companies do not bother with the clips stores so it would be easy to slip a few in.
I make the same with both sites right now, yeah the clips4sale has more traffic and also has 300,000 clips on the site. Not sure on clips.com numbers but if they have 10 times less traffic and 15,000 clips you can do the numbers

It sounds like you do a lot of video sales!

stev0 03-21-2007 02:33 PM

So, how do these sites work? You just upload video clips and they provide the traffic and pay you for sales?

Barefootsies 03-21-2007 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stev0 (Post 12125173)
So, how do these sites work? You just upload video clips and they provide the traffic and pay you for sales?

-You upload clips that you produce.
-They have a lot of traffic that comes to the main site, so you get some there. But you would want to generate some as well.
-You get paid a percentage per sale.

danclips 03-22-2007 10:19 AM

First off, the percentages do not correlate 1:1 with earned income. It's all an issue of traffic.

While we are currently in start-up mode, our hopes are that by offering clips.com to our vast affiliate base, we will quickly provide significantly more targeted traffic to clips.com than our competitors could ever hope to obtain.

That being said, traffic takes time to build. Hotmovies.com receives more traffic than any of it's competitors. The majority of our providers make more on HotMovies, than they do with any other similar programs. It didn't start off that way, but we've dedicated ourselves to building high quality traffic for Hotmovies.com. We have the same commitment with Clips.com. We are currently in the process of building our Google and other Search Engine traffic base. This takes time and money, which we have committed to invest. Search Engine and affiliate traffic will make Clips.com the leader in targeted traffic. All of which means more targeted traffic to the provider.

The other issue with traffic is conversions, and this can only occur with highly targeted traffic. This is something we've excelled at with Hotmovies.com. We are using the same traffic management skills on Clips.com. I would rather see our providers get 1 highly targeted hit, than 1000 non-targeted hits. This means more sales in the end.

So if I was making 60&#37; off 100 hits or 40% off 1000 hits, percentages have little to do with actual revenue.


Second, it's found money. If you make $500 on clips4sale, and only make an additional $50 on clips.com, that's still an additional $50 you wouldn't have had. Isolating your content to a single distribution channel only limits your revenue potential. We don't ask for exclusive rights to your content, because we believe you have a right to distribute your content in as many places as possible.

Personally, I would have my content in as many places as possible to maximize revenue.


Third, clips.com is run by a leader in the adult industry. That means you are partnering with a company that is trustworthy.

We do not sell off our sites for quick revenue. We provide real support from a dedicated support staff. We are a company of over 250 people, so we are not going anywhere anytime soon. This might not seem important, but in today's internet market, trust in companies is seriously lacking. I can't tell you how many times we've had companies we use, just drop off the map.

National A-1 Internet has been in business for over 10 years. Hotmovies.com has been running for 5 of those years. Clips.com is a natural progression for Hotmovies.com, and we feel it has a long prosperous life ahead of it.

We are dedicated to making Clips.com the #1 site for downloadable content. This dedication means better service and support for our content providers, it also means that we will do everything we can to make your content successful. We've started an aggressive advertising campaign for clips.com. We recently debuted Clips.com at the AVN Adult Entertainment Expo and Awards show. We have begun advertising in many magazines, and are working out details for a media campaign with Television and Radio outlets.

We have a team of programmers working on nothing but Clips.com. This means we are able to swiftly change with the times. We are already in the works on major upgrades to clips.com that will allow your content to be accessed by more people. We've taken suggestions from both our content providers, and our customers, and have started implementing those suggestions. Sales on clips.com have been steadily increasing since we've launched the site. We have faith that clips.com will be the premier adult download site on the internet.

danclips 03-22-2007 10:21 AM

also, our affiliate program can earn providers an additional 20&#37; of all sales just by drawing traffic to the site ot their stores individually.

HouseHead 03-22-2007 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvd420 (Post 12037575)
40 % is all they pay, and they make you sign a huge 30 page contract which is made to nothing but take your money. You have to snail mail it in which sucks and was a big waste of time, but everyone deserves a try, I guess I'm the one that had to take it in the ass for the team. No worries tho because I'll never even look at their program again.

Hah.. You pretty much made yourself shut the fuck up. Panze. Dont pick up the ball if you dont want to play man.

danclips 03-22-2007 10:40 AM

BTW, our contract is 4 pages, and while we do want a signed contract to keep on file, I do allow a copy to be faxed in while you send it.

cheers
:)

junkiefred 03-26-2007 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 12124853)
Now go pound it up your head back up your asshat.

Dude, that doesn't even make sense.... :321GFY

junkiefred 03-26-2007 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 12124853)
As for your claims of "good money" if 40% of the take is good money, I'll stick with clips4sale.

I couldn't care less if your so fucking short sighted that you would give up additional income. It's fairly obvious that intelligence isn't one of your strong points.:1orglaugh

Barefootsies 03-26-2007 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by junkiefred (Post 12149453)
junkiefred
Registered User

junkiefred


Posts: 24

Thanks for your wisdom.


junkiefred 03-28-2007 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 12149667)
Thanks for your wisdom.

You're welcome, I usually charge for it, but since you're so much in need, I'll give it to you free.

Adultstoevsky 06-04-2007 11:56 AM

This whole thread is so juvenile.
Clips.com is obviously reputable. Hotmovies has been in business for years now and have never been questioned -as far as I know concerning payouts.
Clips4sale is a great model, but so is Clips.com. You'll make money on both.
DVD420 got caught scamming, and he's making impotent attempts to bemoan Clips.com out of spite.

I have stores on Clips.com and Clips4sale, and I am equally satisfied with both sites. Diversification is the name of the game.


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