Well, the company that im on is really good. They are in the UK and charges me 3GBP per mbps. Its actually good bw too. If you can beat it let me know please.
600 - 800 mbps bw needed
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Nah, Cogent can go as low as $8/mbps on some accounts. But thats major accounts in carrier hotels with limited coverage and 10gbps commits. Not sure if they are still doing it for that low in todays market though...
I remember talking to one adult company who was at 7gbps and committed to 10gbps for around the $80,000/mo mark.
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I wasn't saying $15/mbps was the lowest you could get. I was simply saying that at 600-800 mbps a month, you definitely aren't getting your bandwidth for $6/mbps. Also, he's saying it's good bandwidth, which suggests that it isn't Cogent, meaning it's more expensive.Nah, Cogent can go as low as $8/mbps on some accounts. But thats major accounts in carrier hotels with limited coverage and 10gbps commits. Not sure if they are still doing it for that low in todays market though...
I remember talking to one adult company who was at 7gbps and committed to 10gbps for around the $80,000/mo mark.
Jim
My bet is that xlogger isn't quite clear on what a mbps is, or is host is totally fucking him over.
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6 bucks a meg? not sure we can do anything there, But I might be able to help here, deel free to icq ( 304883574 ) or email me [email protected]Comment
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No - the first isn't true, I don't know about the second. The European and US bandwidth markets are completely different animals.
US providers generally have quite restrictive peering policies because the eyeball networks (cable/dsl/etc) are often owned/in bed with the backbone providers. The eyeball networks don't like to peer as their parent/subsidiary/network provider want you to pay for the right to access those eyeballs by buying IP service from them.
Europe, in general, is much more open about their peering, who can peer with who, and overall, the cost to peer at public exchanges is cheaper.
I would bet that his host is banking on two things: 1) over subscription and 2) most of the traffic will be destined to Europe and can be peered off rather than paying a backbone provider.
While the quality inside Europe may be pretty good, it certainly may not be so good to the USA. If it is actually good now, it may not be good in several months if other people start buying 800Mbps+ of traffic with the majority destined for the US at $6/Mbps (as the host most likely have to pay Cogent/Telia/Level(3)/ProviderX to get it here).
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Interesting post.No - the first isn't true, I don't know about the second. The European and US bandwidth markets are completely different animals.
US providers generally have quite restrictive peering policies because the eyeball networks (cable/dsl/etc) are often owned/in bed with the backbone providers. The eyeball networks don't like to peer as their parent/subsidiary/network provider want you to pay for the right to access those eyeballs by buying IP service from them.
Europe, in general, is much more open about their peering, who can peer with who, and overall, the cost to peer at public exchanges is cheaper.
I would bet that his host is banking on two things: 1) over subscription and 2) most of the traffic will be destined to Europe and can be peered off rather than paying a backbone provider.
While the quality inside Europe may be pretty good, it certainly may not be so good to the USA. If it is actually good now, it may not be good in several months if other people start buying 800Mbps+ of traffic with the majority destined for the US at $6/Mbps (as the host most likely have to pay Cogent/Telia/Level(3)/ProviderX to get it here).
Best,
Sam
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Don't sound that impossible to get that price, I know a company here in Sweden that offers 100Mbps office uplink for 6800SEK which is less than $10/Mbps and they got an awsome infrastructure. I bet you could push the prize down towards $6/Mbps if you had high volume and used one of their datacenters.Alea iacta estComment
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Come on Mark, you'd really need much more than that
If I can find $6/megabit, I'll take as many gigabits as they'll sell me!
Impossible request, move on. If anyone offers it to you, it's a scam. Doesn't matter how much peering they do and what networks they mix in.
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Again... to reiterate, that's not exactly true. Coming from a US-centric world, yes, $6/Mbps is a joke. However, the cost of peering is significantly less. A 1Gbps port at LINX costs about ~1K USD/mo. Subsequent ports are discounted 25%.Come on Mark, you'd really need much more than that
If I can find $6/megabit, I'll take as many gigabits as they'll sell me!
Impossible request, move on. If anyone offers it to you, it's a scam. Doesn't matter how much peering they do and what networks they mix in.
Cheers,
Brad
That's ~$1/Mbps - with an aggregate cost that could drop down closer to $.75/Mbps. Figure if you're peering at a conservative (for Europe) 50%, and purchasing from any number of providers that will offer you $10/Mbps, you have an average cost of $5.5 USD/Mbps.
Now, this doesn't take into account a lot of overhead costs that are often discounted (proper network infrastructure, and clueful people to manage it), but realistically costs could go even lower if you're doing more traffic and peering more traffic.
Again, as I mentioned previously, traffic egressing Europe will almost certainly have a lower peering "hit rate", increasing your cost for that traffic. They're playing a numbers game here - if in their metrics based on their usage and growth patterns, they can sustain it, more power to them.
Best,
SamSam Machiz - V.P. Sales and Marketing - smachiz[at]voxel.net - Phone: 212-812-4194
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Great info. You definitely appear to know your stuff.Again... to reiterate, that's not exactly true. Coming from a US-centric world, yes, $6/Mbps is a joke. However, the cost of peering is significantly less. A 1Gbps port at LINX costs about ~1K USD/mo. Subsequent ports are discounted 25%.
That's ~$1/Mbps - with an aggregate cost that could drop down closer to $.75/Mbps. Figure if you're peering at a conservative (for Europe) 50%, and purchasing from any number of providers that will offer you $10/Mbps, you have an average cost of $5.5 USD/Mbps.
Now, this doesn't take into account a lot of overhead costs that are often discounted (proper network infrastructure, and clueful people to manage it), but realistically costs could go even lower if you're doing more traffic and peering more traffic.
Again, as I mentioned previously, traffic egressing Europe will almost certainly have a lower peering "hit rate", increasing your cost for that traffic. They're playing a numbers game here - if in their metrics based on their usage and growth patterns, they can sustain it, more power to them.
Best,
Sam
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