Explain the capitals then, smart ass! lol. :winkwink:

he used his nose for shift

Bet he hit caps lock with his tongue then did the I and the J then took caps lock off and did the rest.

Look at those pics - that is one good-looking dude. I'll bet before the accident he was the kind of guy all of you posers WISH you looked like. Long blonde hair, good features, a surfer's body... probably had all the hot bikini babes chasing after him.

A motorcycle accident can happen at anytime. Sleazybear had one, Blondy had one just recently. Are they any more or less pathetic because they're not completely incapacitated?

Internext is in Florida... sure would be nice if someone here took a day to go visit Gavin and possibly even helped him out a bit.
At the time that article was written, he needed a van with a chair lift. That's far less than a sponsor will spend on a booth presence and lush party.

Hell, he may write slow, but he's an excellent writer - perhaps someone could even give him a job and you'd both get something out of it.

How many of the asses in this thread have cool crotch-rockets?
That could be YOU six months from now after an accident.
Would you want your former fellow webmasters to be giving you support and encouragement, or laughing at your "pathetic" ass on a public forum?

What comes around, goes around... don't fuck with Fate. She's a mean bitch who loves to take dares.

Don't send this scamming piece of shit anything but a big ole bag of flaming shit.

Take a look at one of the letters on this page. ;>

Cheers,
Backov

PS - Google is your friend. Fucking template letter writing pieces of shit.

It says in the article that he writes 2 letters a day, as far as I've seen all he asks for is autographed pictures. If this makes him happy collecting autographed pictures where's the harm??

How much less will you make today because of him??

Where and what is his scam???

farbie

http://www.bigbeatty.com/gavingrow.html

who knows...................

This guy helped me put in perspective how good my life is. His boredom must be deafening.

Someone should teach him how to make adult sites, so instead of writing long letters to pornstars he can make himself some loot and buy hookers and luxuries.

this guy is fucking full of shit, i hate to tell you that

and i am a self proclaimed master at seeing thru bullshit... this guy is 100% bullshit, anyone who believe anything to the contrary is naive...

Lightspeed,

Well go and check whether this guy is for real or not.
Even if he is not for real, why not send him one lousy picture of that Tawnee girl.

How long will that take? 5 - 10 minutes.
How much will it cost? Hmm 2 dollars?

Geezzz.

This guy is for real like Bangbus is for real.

I smelled something rotten, absolutely. What a piece of shit.

http://www.esther.com/letters/

I'll copy and paste this because it is on the Internet anyway:

"Dear Esther,
My name is Gavin Grow and I am a quadriplegic. I am confined to a hospital bed twenty-four hours a day, everyday, and have been for fifteen years. I have finally made arrangements with my family's help to come home from a nursing home where I spent several long years. During my long residence at this home, both by days and nights were harried by calls for assistance, cries of anguish, pain, confusion and the occasional maniacal scream from the severely deranged. I was forced to live under these conditions as the home was divided by the need for skilled nursing care. A quadriplegic confined to a hospital bed with kidney, respiratory and circulation problems is classified as a skilled nursing patient along with Alzheimer's and the mentally unstable. I have literally spent years in a nursing home. In this time, books, music and movies were my savior. I had lapsed into a terrible depression due to my condition, situation, loneliness and isolation. I soon became loved by the staff who often brought me a computer "to pass the time." I found that surfing the internet, as when I was very younger, could be an escape for me. They took me to places that otherwise I may never see and introduced me to people that both inspired, entertained and gave me hope for the future.... Discovering you and searching for your photos on the net has been instrumental in keeping me from feeling the dreaded loneliness that comes with someone who spends such long hours alone in the same room day after day. I have already served a term of confinement, and mostly solitary, exceeding that of someone who has murdered another. I feel that your beautiful photos have impacted my life greatly as I was very disturbed over the latest world news and your beauty made me forget everything else. I can assure you, Esther, that I would treasure your autographed photo forever. I am writing to plead with you to take a personal interest, Esther, just this once, in helping a fan truly in need of your assistance. My love for your stunning photos means everything to me and you are my favorite model. You are soooo beautiful! Your modeling shots are amazing! I am living on nothing more than my disability income and cannot afford even the slightest luxury. I am only surviving with my family's assistance both financially and with my daily care. I want to appeal to you, Esther, for your help in obtaining your autographed photo. I can assure you that I am sincere in my dilemma and request and hope that, just this once, you can find the compassion to help someone unknown to you that really admires and appreciates your beauty, mystique and talents. Regardless of your response, I want to compliment you on your success and obvious modeling skills and wish you continued happiness and future success. I have included a link to the International magazine article about me in hopes of verifying some of my story and enclosed a recent photo in hopes of putting a face to these words. I hope that you will consider helping me. I know that your autographed photo would transform what would be another dismal day confined to my room into a day filled with fame and happiness. I hope to spend some time in the future admiring your autographed photo on my wall rather than mentally tabulating the various indigenous fowl visiting my bird feeder. Thank you so much for your time and consideration; I understand you must be very busy. Your devoted fan in FL. Sincerely, Gavin G."

I taped a pencil to my nose.


BTW...

g u e s s w h a t i j u s t u s e d t o t y p e d t h i s

(HINT)

not my tongue, and I had to stand up to do it:Graucho

HQ you are saying he's a scammer ?

:eatmouse

He likes boxers too:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...&output=gplain

I think he is telling the truth about the accident (I could be wrong).

Looks like some people weren't happy with him selling some art he got from comic book authors.

Could he really sell autographed pics of some of these people though?

I don't know.

If it wasn't for the comic book thing - I would say send it to him.

6.11 Gavin Grow
Gavin Grow is a well-known name in the community of comic professionals. Constant Ng writes:

Essentially an individual by the name of Gavin Grow from Florida sent letters to a bunch of artists along with a photo of himself in a wheel chair claiming to be a fan, who's fondest desire was to have art by said artist. Said artist sent art, sometimes really great stuff, to Gavin who in turn sold the stuff.

from: http://www.musial.org/comicart/faq/faqpeople.htm

No, not really. I was just pointing out that the same guy posted almost the exact same thing to another girl. So it's up to opinions from here on in... I would guess that he's a scammer, but Chris R's post proves that he is somewhat legit! Maybe he just likes to copy and paste! :)

:1orglaugh
You have no idea how funny this statement really is!

:thumbsup

good man. at least some one else is thinking what i'm thinking.

Ok....he's a quadraplegic who along with his girlfriend get freebe's and then sell them. I'd call it a scam because he's proclaiming to be a fan to get something for free only to make a buck off of it. I'd try sending a fully clothed pic of Tawnee - with a watermark that says *OF NO COMMERCIAL VALUE* along with all copyrights at the bottom of the pic AND a notice that this picture is not to be copied or sold as it is a copyrighted item.

This way, he could have his cake - but he could only hang it on his wall. WOULD you pay for something like that?

he's a quadraplegic AND a scammer...

I guess he deserved to be laughed at...

I got that exact same email today...word for word. LOL

i just deleted a post i made.


i don't know what this guy's real story is.


Lightspeed is a creton for posting that personal message here.
Classless fuck.

Whatever the truth is about him, and he may very well be a quad
with a horrible life, he wasn't scamming anybody, he wasn't offering to buy sex from this 'Tawnee Stone' character, he just wanted an autographed picture.


Letter could be totally sincere. To mock that kind of tragic life, take that letter this guy may have thought was going to Tawnee Stone is low.

No shit. Unless you know for 100% certain that it's some kind of joke (ie, you wrote it yourself) then it's just irresponsible to post that here. This is how you treat fans? On a professionalism scale of 1-10, this is about a -6.

SpaceAce

Dunno if it's real but it looks real.

No need at all to post this on a msg board

You people giving Lightspeed shit about this are a bunch of dumbasses.. Read the fucking thread again, there's a few links posted to this guys scams.. Here's the skinny, AGAIN:

He sends this form letter to everyone he can think of, usually with minor changes, sometimes not.. When he gets the shit from suckers, he ebays it.

Who cares whether he's a quad or not, he's a fucking scammer.

Get a clue!

At first I was going to give Lightspeed some serious shit... in fact, I'm guessing they didn't know the guy was a scammer. In that instance, he would deserve it.

However, this fuck is obviously sending the same goddamn letter out to everyone to get free shit. There is nobody with more empathy for the disabled then me... but it's obvious that this guy is completely insincere and getting as much as he can to profiteer.

I'm talked to multiple disableds on the phone back when I used to do my own customer service for my paysites when I was managing my own merchant account.

Hopefully someone like this guy doesn't ruin it for all the other good people that every now and again send real fan mail or ask for some help... As far as I'm concerned it's cool to give stuff away and be good to people, life and karma tends to be circular.

This guy though? If you're going to give him anything make it a few days or weeks free and kick him to the curb. It's obvious any gifts would end up on Ebay.

Brad

A donation has been made in the name of Tawnee Stone to the Human Fund.

I've talked to 5 other webgirls who got the exact same letter today...word for word. It's a scam.

We can't *all* be the most beautiful girl in the world!

Show us yer tits and I'll tell you if you are THE ONE...

hahaha check it out, we got an email from this guy too
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Dear xxxxxxxx,

I have hoped to contact you for some time. My name is Gavin and I am a quadriplegic. I am confined to a hospital bed twenty-four hours a day, everyday, and have been for fifteen years. I have finally made arrangements with my family?s help to come home from a nursing home where I spent several long years.

During my long residence at this home, both by days and nights were harried by calls for assistance, cries of anguish, pain, confusion and the occasional maniacal scream from the severely deranged. I was forced to live under these conditions as the home was divided by the need for skilled nursing care. A quadriplegic confined to a hospital bed with kidney, respiratory and circulation problems is classified as a skilled nursing patient along with Alzheimer?s and the mentally unstable.

I have literally spent years in a nursing home. In this time, books, music and movies were my savior. I had lapsed into a terrible depression due to my condition, situation, loneliness and isolation.

I soon became loved by the staff who often brought me a computer ?to pass the time.? I found that surfing the internet, as when I was very younger, could be an escape for me. They took me to places that otherwise I may never see and introduced me to people that both inspired, entertained and gave me hope for the future.

I am able to type with an adaptive brace on my right arm with an upside down pencil sticking out. I am able to type, though laborously, with the very limited movement in my right arm. I still have no movement in my hands or wrists.

An International magazine recently did a story on me and the many authors and celebrities that have been kind to me with several photos and text which may lend credence to my story and plea. http://www.americanwindsurfer.com/ma...issue5.5d.html

I have been written about more than once in our local paper and several times in world renowned magazine publications.

Discovering you and searching for your and a few other outstanding models? photos on the net has been instrumental in keeping me from feeling the dreaded loneliness that comes with someone who spends such long hours alone in the same room day after day. I have already served a term of confinement, and mostly solitary, exceeding that of someone who has murdered another.

I feel that searching for your beautiful photos has impacted my life greatly as I was very disturbed over the latest world news and your beauty made me forget everything else. I can assure you, that I would treasure your autographed photo/snapshot forever.

I am writing to plead with you to take a personal interest, just this once, in helping a fan truly in need of your assistance. My love for your stunning photos means everything to me and you are one of my favorite erotic models. You are soooo beautiful!

I am living on nothing more than my disability income and cannot afford even the slightest luxury. I am only surviving with my family?s assistance both financially and with my daily care. I have written and received photos from many celebrities and I so much want to add your autographed photo to my collection as I believe your beauty to be unforgettable! I am writing a few erotic models such as yourself that I find to have outstanding beauty?

I want to appeal to you, for your help in obtaining your autographed photo. I can assure you that I am sincere in my dilemma and request and hope that, just this once, you can find the compassion to help someone unknown to you that really admires and appreciates your beauty, mystique and talents.

Regardless of your response, I want to compliment you on your success and obvious modeling skills and wish you continued happiness and future success.

I have included a link to the International magazine article about me in hopes of verifying some of my story and enclosed a recent photo in hopes of putting a face to these words. I hope that you will consider helping me. I know that your autographed photo would transform what would be another dismal day confined to my room into a day filled with fame and happiness.

I hope to spend some time in the future admiring your autographed photo on my wall rather than mentally tabulating the various indigenous fowl visiting my bird feeder?

Thank you so much for your time and consideration; I understand you must be very busy. Your devoted fan in FL?


Sincerely,

Gavin
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my reply:

How many chicks are you going to send this letter to???

by the way, I know Tawnee Stone, ring a bell?

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his reply:

i have written a few web models that i really like including you and
tawnee. as well as pam anderson, bo derek, brooke shields, and on and on.
i COLLECT autographed photos from the people i admire. i have been written
about my many magazines and newspaper. i have a hard time typing so i tried
to write a letter to all the models i admire/adore and just change the name.
my walls are becoming covered and i do treasure every photo. i hope that
you and tawnee may one day donate an autographed pic for my walls as many
people come by to see them and i still say that you and tawnee are among the
most beautiful. please tell tawnee that i apologize to you both but my
biggest fault is fatigue not a lack of admiration/adoration of you both.
your devoted fan, gavin
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once again I reply:

Cool. Do you have a webcam?

I would like you to send me a picture of yourself standing in front of your autographed pic covered wall please. That would be great. I have heard so much about you from other models on the web, we all want to see what you look like in addition to the nice collection of pics you have.

Thanks.
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more to come if he replies :)

I have seen this same letter posted somewhere else about a month ago , cant rememeber where now.

I am writing this as I keep getting referred to this site and one called amateurmasters.com where someone I have written mistrusts me.

CLEARING THE AIR- I am GAVIN GROW, paralyzed in a motorcycle accident some years ago now. Was admitted into a nursing home for care. Family helped me get a computer so I practiced by writing fan mail to first all the comic artists I admired, then celebrities, sports stars, authors, etc. I am paralyzed from the neck down though I have gained some movement in my right arm whereby I can type using an adaptive brace and an upside-down pencil. I spend all day, everyday, in a hospital bed ,writing people that I admire or desire. All I ask for is an autographed photo, not phone calls, personal numbers, visits or website memberships. I have hundreds of photos that were given to me as well as autographed books, cds, baseballs, footballs, boxing gloves, dvds, etc. from celebrities in every genre. I have never sold anything besides a few pieces of comic art that I had multiple pieces of. I sold them 10 YEARS AGO to help get my wheelchair lift van. I HAVE NEVER SOLD ANYTHING ELSE! I HAVE NEVER SOLD ANYTHING ON EBAY! Also, the lady that said I was a paying customer that became too needy but has some sensation in his penis; definitely has me mistaken for some other person. I have never chatted or done the webcam thing with anyone. I don?t even own a webcam or a credit card. My only crime is not writing a new letter for each individual. It is way too exhausting typing for me to type a new letter for every person I admire. I SPEND EVERYDAY IN THE SAME BED AND FRANKLY I JUST ENJOYED RECEIVING PHOTOS FROM WOMEN I THOUGHT WERE BEAUTIFUL AND MEETING NEW PEOPLE. Each woman I wrote, like the previous I have spent time thinking about and admiring and keeping my mind out of this room. Honestly, do the adult model photos have any resale value? I will tell everyone in the adult modeling biz that if you autographed and sent me a photo, I still have it. Along with the over 600 autographed celebrity photos. Here is another webpage where an olympic gold medalist talks about coming to see me: http://www.americanwindsurfer.com/ma....4/gavin1.html and how his visit was. Some of you will say that I am just using your sympathy but I am simply explaining why I cannot afford or am unable to buy his/her autographed photo. And yes, I still can?t spell quadriplegic (4), nevertheless, a quadriplegic I remain. I am not talking bad about anyone that has mistrusted me but I must say that if I have written to you more than once it is obvious that I visit your website regularly. The letters I have written to the women in the adult modeling business are extremely flattering and were meant to do three things. Introduce me to a woman that I thought was very beautiful or sexually attractive. To show another person how good they can make someone in my position feel. And to obtain a photo signed by a woman that I have longed for or fantasized about . The photos I keep in albums which I treasure. I have 15 albums now! Where would one of your autographed photos have a better home? In my albums, treasured and shown off for a lifetime? I cherish these albums and show them to visiting nurses and people I have met through my writing. Many celebrities and book authors don?t doubt me and have come for visits. I am very lonely, I would welcome a visit from anyone I have ever written. I AM TOO TIRED TO KEEP PECKING AWAY. Those of you that remain unconvinced; come see me. Maybe seeing me you will feel bad and make a good friend in the end?

Sincerely,

Gavin Grow
P.S. I am going to save this explanation in my documents so that I never have to type this long again?
I never received a photo from Ms. Stone.
Last point- "It's just and autograph, a 50 cent photo and 50 cents in postage." I don't get complaints or mistrust from actors, actresses, sports stars, astronauts, authors, directors, presidents...only the occasional adult model.

LOL!

Great thread.

:1orglaugh

boneprone

Ouch Steve Karma is a bitch.....Make it up to this guy....he deserves it. You´re known for being a generous and standup
guy. Give the guy a break that´s the least you can do man!

DynaMite :2 cents:

lightspeed are a bunch of fuckwits,

don't post personal letters you stupid shit.

wait till you become a fiveaprojapllogici and sending emails to a pornographer like me, I'll spit in your face dick licker!

I don´t think so, check out the guy´s site man. I believe it´s
for real!

DynaMite

I have a portuguese amateur site, www.amadoraspt.com , and
I got a very simillar mail from a guy , he also attached a newspaper story about him, everything looked true. So this shit really happens. But the guy who wrote to me actually wanted to have sex with one of the girls because he's a virgin. If anyone wants to have sex with him I'll give you his contact.

Ohyay....... the ghost thread that will not die.



As I said many moon ago.... just send the guy a signed pic and put this issue to rest. Personally I would have tried to arrange for Tawnee to go see this guy in person, then alerted the media to it..... might even have made "Xtra" and "Entertainment Tonight"...who knows?
"popular porn girl show's compassion"..... I like it.

IMO this guy is making a living out this kind of shit and selling the signed photos on auction sites

I'd be more convinced of that if you had some actual proof to offer.

I think my idea of doing something nice for the guy while getting some almost-free publicity out of it is the way to go. And so what if he sells the photo? Big deal, it's still more publicity for Tawnee and LS.

wicked... dudes got a mullet.....

CD,

Do a google search for chunks of the original form letter - this guy is a scammer. He takes the stuff that's sent to him and sells it on Ebay. I linked to a page or two when this thread came up the first time.

hmm, I have put off replying to this thread and I honestly don't know why I am but here it goes.

My husband is disabled. He was on his motorcyle comming home from work one night when a drunk driver hit him side on and threw him across a motorway and into a brick wall. He was in a coma for three months and when he came out he he couldn't walk. He spent a year in a wheelchair and being told that he would never walk again.

He is a bullheaded man, so he wouldn't take that as a final answer and convinced them to try physical therapy. Luckily for us both he did learn to walk again. The problem is that he is left with extreme pain when he does walk, and he can't do it without two crutches. In addition the circulation in his legs is so poor that he has developed extreme non-healing leg ulcers in his legs. These are like hot pokers all the time.

He went from being a well known print journalist in London to a man who finds it near impossible to leave the house without being on an electric scooter (he refuses to go back in a normal wheel chair).

All of that and he is one of the lucky ones. There are so many people that go through their existance trying to squeak out what little bit they can while they lay there just waiting to die. I always cared about the disabled before but since marrying my husband their treatment has become so much more important to me. Largely because I see every day how difficult things are for them.

So, with this whole thing I am left in three minds.

Firstly, why post the letter here? If you felt sorry for him why use the word pathetic? I am not attacking, just encouraging a rethink next time.

Secondly, even if it isn't real what do you lose? Like someone said, send a clothed pic with a stamp on it. The worst that happens is you are out a pic.

Thridly, If it is a scam then the guy behind it has recived all my indignation for taking advantage of the disabled and making their status in soceity all that more difficult.

HAM!

Gavin,

If you are reading this thread email me: [email protected] . I'll give you a free pass for life to my website www.NakedCollegeGirls.tv . Whether you've sold things in the past or not doesn't matter to me. Most of the people on this board would do the same thing.

I personally do not think Lightspeed was making fun of you. I talked about you to one of their staff even before this letter was posted.

When you email me I would appreciate if you gave me your home phone number. I'd like to say hello.

Thanks,

Donovan Phillips