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cosis 08-06-2002 07:35 PM

i dont see 800k, i see 475k from sextracker.. seems like it really depends on trades, if it was a straight up tgp such as book-mark.net it would be worth a lot more

Pipecrew 08-06-2002 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]


Details please.

If 800k a day of straight traffic tgp was such a hot commodity, I am amazed it would have to even be advertised to be sold. If you had a paysite that generated something as pathetic as 50k a year, you bet your sweet ass you wouldnt have to advertise it on GFY.

Why wouldnt some little (tee hee) megalomaniac like Sleazydream not want to snatch it up and instantly double his traffic. ANd in theory, double your traffic, double your income eh? If Sleazy makes 10 dollars off 100k, if he had 200k he could make 20 dollars. cha ching.

We are talking about a VERY large site having to advertise itself on GFY. Absurd, and only further proves my point. And when it does sell, I bet it sells for jack shit.

If you dont have people kicking in your door to buy an instant 800k a day... you know something is wrong. Very wrong.



YA! (pretend a crowd of people said this) haha

[Labret] 08-06-2002 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cosis
i dont see 800k, i see 475k from sextracker.. seems like it really depends on trades, if it was a straight up tgp such as book-mark.net it would be worth a lot more
Im just going by this.

Quote:


According to UCJ stats, I get 516,000 Trade traffic , and 467,000 bookmark traffic


[Labret] 08-06-2002 07:42 PM

How fast do you think it would sell if it was 500k of something beside cj/tgp traffic?

Steve 08-06-2002 07:43 PM

Petr,
Why not use that pichunter site to start another site? And then sell pichunter. This way, you get the money for your monster, and you used it to feed a new site, which will no doubt grow into something as large, if not larger. Either way, you should really sign up for a trade with hioctane.com :Graucho

That is a shitload of traffic. I am surprised some large paysite program doesn't snatch it up. If I was Maxcash, TopBucks, SIC, I'd try to get it, plaster my programs ads all over it (he's got it broken down by niche already), give webmasters in my program preferential treatment, and make everyone run a link for a FPA of my sites. Then I'd be snatching up the newbie webmasters, get em all excited about the traffic they are gonna get, and make a fucking fortune off the exit traffic on the FPA.

SleazyDream 08-06-2002 07:45 PM

the real large TGP sites that sold in the recent past didn't have to advertise...... folks who are willing to buy know which sites have real traffic and which have less valueable traffic. They sell the less valueable sites to you Labert for piddly amounts like $15k (less than the TGP VIP parties cost me by the way)
I've bought two TGP sites in the last year in case you'e wondering, and neither were advertised on GFY.

example: I didn't see worldsex advertising on here when it was sold..... Although I wish it was as I'd have liked to make a serious bid on it.


All in all though, I think what Pichunter wants for his site is a reasonable amount. (he'll tell interested buyers the number he has in mind) One might have to tweek his business model a bit to suit an individuals income grneraton needs but there is real traffic there. I'd be interested but I too many other things on the go at the moment.

I dont' think whoever buys it will be disappointed.

Steve 08-06-2002 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cosis
i dont see 800k, i see 475k from sextracker.. seems like it really depends on trades, if it was a straight up tgp such as book-mark.net it would be worth a lot more
His counter is on the bottom of his page. That will lose 30% of the hits, at least, counted by SexTracker. ST is cool, but they are not even close to 100% accurate. Even with the code on top of the page. Most of the time, I will see double the traffic running thru my stats that ST will show on any of my listed sites.

cosis 08-06-2002 07:56 PM

selling it because your afraid of bush may shut you down is not a great reason to me.. is there something else that is making you want to sell it??

Theo 08-06-2002 08:00 PM

i think Steve already gave some great tips and as Labret said we are talking about a VERY large site. Even if it's not that great the quantity of it, if properly used should bring lot of $$ making you wanting to keep it.....

SleazyDream 08-06-2002 08:03 PM

there could be dozens of reasons for him wanting to sell it, just as there are dozens of reasons for wanting to sell a paysite

Bobo 08-06-2002 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
the real large TGP sites that sold in the recent past didn't have to advertise...... folks who are willing to buy know which sites have real traffic and which have less valueable traffic. They sell the less valueable sites to you Labert for piddly amounts like $15k (less than the TGP VIP parties cost me by the way)
I've bought two TGP sites in the last year in case you'e wondering, and neither were advertised on GFY.

example: I didn't see worldsex advertising on here when it was sold..... Although I wish it was as I'd have liked to make a serious bid on it.


All in all though, I think what Pichunter wants for his site is a reasonable amount. (he'll tell interested buyers the number he has in mind) One might have to tweek his business model a bit to suit an individuals income grneraton needs but there is real traffic there. I'd be interested but I too many other things on the go at the moment.

I dont' think whoever buys it will be disappointed.

Wrong. If worldsex had advertised selling here, the feedback wouldn't be much different. There might be more enthusiasm because it is the second largest site (according the Sextracker).

But anybody who has purchased advertising on that site knows that the traffic is shit. I still purchase traffic from Worldsex, not because it converts but because it brings in traffic that I can funnel to my other trades. It's the traffic from those trades that bring me the signups and not Worldsex traffic.

Petr is trying to sell because he's not making jack shit off the site. If that 400k is genuine quality traffic he wouldn't be selling plain and simple. He could be pushing 50k+/month with ease.

SleazyDream 08-06-2002 08:12 PM

the traffic on worldsex is only shit to people who don't know how to sell

Sneezy 08-06-2002 08:12 PM

if i have to price a site like that i would look at the comments webmaster have on it.....
In this case i would pay bigboynetwork.com a visit

just my :2 cents:

FATPad 08-06-2002 08:19 PM

Isn't this the third time he has talked about selling this site?

Once back in Oct he said it was making $3/day.

A few months after that he came here and him and Amp got into it over WHY he was selling.

Now he's here again.

Hmmm....

gotys 08-06-2002 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Backov
I seem to remember a post from you not so long ago, gotys(sp?), where you were complaining that even though pichunter had 300k uniques a day, you were making 3$ a day with it. You at that time wanted to sell it for 60k, IIRC.

Shortly after that, you began selling placement on the site, which is a good move if you can't convert the traffic.

Is that not working out for ya? Trying to sell it again?

I know that most TGPs traffic these days is utter shit, it's CJ traffic.

Cheers,
Backov

Yeah, somehow I knew someone would bring this up. I am not here to talk about a reason I wanna sell the site. The site makes ok cash, it's not glorious, but better sallary than a doctor or a lawer I'd say. I wanna sell because I want the hard cash on my table today, not tommorow. Site will make that cash tommorow, but tommorow may be too late. That's it, I am not going to comment on why I wanna sell the site. I want your ideas about the value of the site, not your shit about how stupid I am , or how shitty the site is. I am not interested in that.

SleazyDream 08-06-2002 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gotys


Yeah, somehow I knew someone would bring this up. I am not here to talk about a reason I wanna sell the site. The site makes ok cash, it's not glorious, but better sallary than a doctor or a lawer I'd say. I wanna sell because I want the hard cash on my table today, not tommorow. Site will make that cash tommorow, but tommorow may be too late. That's it, I am not going to comment on why I wanna sell the site. I want your ideas about the value of the site, not your shit about how stupid I am , or how shitty the site is. I am not interested in that.


if we think the site ISN"T shitty can we still make stupid comments?

kmanrox 08-06-2002 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]


Details please.

If 800k a day of straight traffic tgp was such a hot commodity, I am amazed it would have to even be advertised to be sold. If you had a paysite that generated something as pathetic as 50k a year, you bet your sweet ass you wouldnt have to advertise it on GFY.

Why wouldnt some little (tee hee) megalomaniac like Sleazydream not want to snatch it up and instantly double his traffic. ANd in theory, double your traffic, double your income eh? If Sleazy makes 10 dollars off 100k, if he had 200k he could make 20 dollars. cha ching.

We are talking about a VERY large site having to advertise itself on GFY. Absurd, and only further proves my point. And when it does sell, I bet it sells for jack shit.

If you dont have people kicking in your door to buy an instant 800k a day... you know something is wrong. Very wrong.

when big sites sell their shit, they usually have reasons for it...

well, i could make $x dollars each month or i can have $x*10 right now to invest in that 'other project' or whatnot.. or they have another big tgp making cash, so they figure they'd sell the other one that made it....

there's a million reasons why people sell their big tgps...

to say they dont make money is ludacris... talk to cybercat =)

quiet 08-06-2002 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gotys
The site makes ok cash, it's not glorious, but better sallary than a doctor or a lawer I'd say.
so somewhere around 75K - 125K/year? hmm.

cosis 08-06-2002 08:32 PM

I use to say TGP traffic was shit too, that was before I actually took the time to make some galleries and now I make more money from them than I would have ever fucking guessed.

Plat 08-06-2002 08:37 PM

blarg

Pipecrew 08-06-2002 08:46 PM

why bother even using cybercat? can owners not figure this shit outthemselves, how much to charge and book a day without having to pay some percentage? its either the pinnacle of laziness or the wannabe eleet status knowing "cybercat" handles your advertising ewwwwwww awwwwwwwwwww

SleazyDream 08-06-2002 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew
why bother even using cybercat? can owners not figure this shit outthemselves, how much to charge and book a day without having to pay some percentage? its either the pinnacle of laziness or the wannabe eleet status knowing "cybercat" handles your advertising ewwwwwww awwwwwwwwwww

saying that is like saying the TOP traffic sites on the net are all idiots.... think about it, maybe there's a reason a DUMBASS like you isn't able to figgure out why large sites use cybercat.....hummmmmm

gotys 08-06-2002 09:00 PM

Alright, as I read through these, I see most of these people don't have a clue.

If there is anyone serious out here who is interested, hit me up on ICQ, thanks

Theo 08-06-2002 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gotys
I see most of these people don't have a clue.
true

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sultrymaster 08-06-2002 09:08 PM

Gotys,

ICQ me at 154325429 when you get a chance. I'm possibly interested in your site.

Sultrymaster

Rodent 08-06-2002 09:46 PM

Am I the only one who noticed the PayPal shit plastered all over that site? And the PayPal popup......pretty fuckin lame. Put some real ads on the site.

Steve 08-06-2002 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew
why bother even using cybercat? can owners not figure this shit outthemselves, how much to charge and book a day without having to pay some percentage? its either the pinnacle of laziness or the wannabe eleet status knowing "cybercat" handles your advertising ewwwwwww awwwwwwwwwww
Have you ever sold ad space? If you do it, you will wind up getting a nice fuck in the ass sooner or later. Using a broker takes you out of the loop. I used to have a broker handle my deals for me back when Yishai was buying anything he could get his hands on. When I didn't use my broker, I wound up having wannabees screw me over for "test" traffic, or just not pay. Using a broker means you are PRE-PAID, end of story.

Jesus, even WITH going thru my broker I was nearly fucked out of a few grand. But they were convinced to pay with a nice call from "customer service". I was going to have the fuckers thumbs cut off.



Anyway, Petr, hope this works out for you nice and fast.

Backov 08-06-2002 10:26 PM

Well, he gave them same answer he gave last time (when Amp ripped him a new asshole about it) - none.

So, we have to assume it's the same as last time - it's not making money.

If it IS making money, gotys, feel free to post some stats, I'm sure that will help the sale go through.

After all, this is your 3rd try at selling this site.

Cheers,
Backov

SpyCam 08-07-2002 02:11 AM

If i were you (Gotys), i would build/buy few paysites and a pack of AVS sites and would circle the traffic to them

I'm already using this scheme and it works very good. why try selling other sponsors when you can advertise your own and send traffic to your own galleries

Daymare 08-07-2002 02:27 PM

I'll offer $15k

MrBrian 08-07-2002 02:47 PM

the golden rule is 3-4 months of your income for a tgp and 1 year for a paysite

if you make 5k a month, then yes 15k...

Pipecrew 08-07-2002 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream



saying that is like saying the TOP traffic sites on the net are all idiots.... think about it, maybe there's a reason a DUMBASS like you isn't able to figgure out why large sites use cybercat.....hummmmmm

wake up sleazy, you are probably only with them because you beg, you will do anything to attempt to fit in with the top dawgs...... newsflash, you can throw all the parties you want and do everything else, you still arent important

TheDoc 08-07-2002 03:05 PM

If you havent sold it yet contact me on ICQ 7765825 I would like to talk to you about that.

gotys 08-07-2002 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Backov
Well, he gave them same answer he gave last time (when Amp ripped him a new asshole about it) - none.

So, we have to assume it's the same as last time - it's not making money.

If it IS making money, gotys, feel free to post some stats, I'm sure that will help the sale go through.

After all, this is your 3rd try at selling this site.

Cheers,
Backov

Sorry, somehow I don't feel comfortable posting my profit stats here. Again, I am sorry if some of you are retarded, but I already wrote once that I feel no obligations to explaining WHY I am selling the site. I am not selling site's profit, I am selling THE SITE and ITS TRAFFIC. So wake up Backov and stop attacking me.


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