I was pretty violent in my late teens and early 20's, and the Army let me use it constructively and kept me out of trouble. I accepted any challenge offered to me and usually rose above it.

I've grown out of that since I've gotten a little older. I dont go around starting shit anymore, but I wont let anyone try to push me around. I stay pretty level headed until my limit is reached, then the explosive temper gets unleashed and I dont care what the consequences are at that point. Luckily, it rarely happens anymore.

I shot somebody...

I'm violet. It's a good color.

not really unless someone really goes outta their way to piss me off...in those cases payback is always 1000% worse than whatever they did to me....

You'd never have the balls to say anything to my face, get serious.

nah, not violent at all. Been in a fight few times though :upsidedow

If you say so. But then, you've never met me and many in the industry have. So I guess you'd know best. :1orglaugh

Guess we know your answer to Sleazy's thread title now huh? :glugglug

Yes I guess I am. I refuse to take shit from anyone. I have been in quite a few barfights with guys. Stabbed my husband once. I will not hesitate to finish a fight or shut someones mouth.. I dont like to start fights, but I wont walk away from one. I have gotten a little mellower as I have gotten older.. or maybe its because I just dont go clubbin anymore where there are a bunch of drunk assholes to piss me off :1orglaugh

No, you're right, I have never met you. I can only judge based on the character you've shown over the years. I could be wrong, but here's what makes me believe you're a coward at heart:

1) Cowardly by actions. You were talking about killing yourself. Either you were too afraid to ask for help or you really thought running away from life was a great escape.

2) Cowardly by thoughts. You spent a great deal of time telling one my good friends about how you've never been a confident person, couldn't talk to girls. This is not the attitude of a self confident person. I don't know for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if you met your wife over the Internet.

3) Cowardly by genes. You have French ancestory.

Yup, right on all 3 and yet here I am with a family, a great job, very happy and able to out think the likes of mindless, fight first, grunts like you who are unable to cope with situations without using your fists.

You go girl... show us how non-violent you are :1orglaugh

Out of curiousity, can you defend that statement or is it just your random unfounded opinion?

I dont mean defend it in a fist fight, i mean you should form a logical argument proving your statement correct.

Im just curious really, because I personally belive you are wrong. Violence is simply a tool (dont confuse it with 'rage') and as a tool it has pros and cons.

And therefore, given the correct situation violence would be the first resort of the intellectual. Its only logical.

But ofcource its not a catchy slogan that you can spout and if people disagree you say it again louder :)

Were you raised by bumper stickers by any chance?

Wow, couldn't have said it better myself. :thumbsup

FUCK NO and if you ever ask me that shit again I will break your fucking neck.

Yes,i am,when it is needed.
Fuck

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I'm not that violent, except when someone disappoints me... especially when he/she has my trust and suddenly, just because of a small change, gives a shit about me... that's a thing that makes me mad...

Oh, and when I'm in trouble and I'm helpless... then anger is just pumping me up...

Not when I have weed to smoke.

Yes, I was raised by bumper stickers... unlike the pure brilliance it requires to come with a phrase like that.

Let's use the warchild (appropriate name) as an example. If I say something to him, and it makes him mad... is he able to handle it? Cope with it? Come up with something to say back? No... he has to resort to violence in order to force me to come up with an apology simply because he knows no other way to do it.

Violence, even as a tool, is used when all other options are exhausted. A leader (not the make shift ones like Bush) should consider all options... from negotiation, politics, cohersion... what have you, and have violence as one of those options. But it's only the first option of those who are incapable to even consider any of the other options first.

But even Bush had issued warnings and other such things to Iraq before invading. So thus, you could say, even then their first option wasn't violence.

people who think like you refuse to accept the possibility that violence is often the only option. refusing to accept that, does not make you intellectually superior... just a little slower to grasp the obvious.

I almost always pantomime masturbate. I find that it usually defuses most violent situations because people always laugh at a very small person like me pretending to jack off a giant schlong -- you should try it. There's no way you won't laugh.

Then you can run away!

100 angry mother fuckers

well, if i'm really pissed off and i'm drunk i could be violent but not to the extent of hurting someone...i just shout get some bottle, chairs or other things to throw to burst out my anger...

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Care to give me examples when violence is the only option?

Keeping in mind not to exclude any events leading up to the point when violence BECOMES the only option.

If you walked into the house and found someone raping your wife/girlfriend. What would you do?

idiot :2 cents:

Its not mine, Dogbert said it to Dilbert after Dilbert continually repeated "If you dont vote, you have no right to complain!" and Dilbert couldnt answer why he had that opinion.

Sir, the irony of the immaturity of you taking a cheap shot at someone for being named "child" is intense.

'Resorting' to violence because one is 'angry' does not classify a violent person, but an angry person. There are many ways to deal with anger and violence is one of them.

If what you say is true, it makes him an angry person. Not a violent person.

I disagree, but i think its very nice of you to list both negotiation, politics (negotiation kinda falls under this one doesnt it?) and coercion (which is a method of negotiation). I would even go as far as to say that in this grand scheme of things, 'violence' would also fall under politics.

"But it's only the first option of those who are incapable to even consider any of the other options first."

Please, go ahead and explain why. Thats what i asked in my previous post :) (the one you replied to with this post that i am now replying to. We could have saved a neat amount of time if you had just explained already.)

I dont know where you are trying to go with the whole bush-iraq thing, I thought we were discussing wheter or not violence ever may be the 'correct' first choice in a given situation. Again, I say that it may be and you say that it may never be.

I have explained why I belive that violence is the optimal choice of action if the situation calls for it and you have repeated what you said before. Are you going to repeat it again? This is not a remake of the Monty Python Argument Sketch. (yes it is, no it isnt.)

Is this what you consider an 'intellectual' debate?

Please sir, just list your arguments instead of your opinions.

when you are standing in the school yard and the known bully comes up to you, pushes you and says "i am gonna beat your ass because i hate jews like you (or whatever)" and he is known to do just that.

you have two options

1) go for the first shot and try to take him down before he knocks you around
2) try to explain that violence solves nothing and give him your witty, "intellectual" bumper sticker quotes as he beats your ass


just the fact that you can't possible imagine a scenario that immediately requires violence, proves my point. at least my view is somewhat moderate... that i believe there is a time and place for violence/fighting. your view is extreme and irrational in that you just can't possibly imagine having to fight as a first line of defense.

hopefully you will never have to explain to your wife that you didn't just watch her get raped, you were actually busy trying to "reach him" and make him understand that you should be able to just discuss whats bothering him.

Will have to wait for my memoirs

Make content?

I'm not violent at all, but I do enjoy socking a guy in the chops every now and then for no reason.
I used to have a lot of fun when pony tails were in.

I once pulled the wings off a housefly

went to boxing a couple hours ago. and after talking to one of the guys i was sparring with and had known for a while, i learned he was actually an attorney for IEG in their final days. that proves that sometimes fighting is just funny.

i have the potential. i do my best to always be "zen"
duke