The reason why I started this thread is because I struggle with money tremendously. I am 22 yrs old and I see the importance of making right decisions so ten years down the road I can cash in on my hard work. I am also a college student and I consider myself not a bad looking guy, im driven, and pretty intelligent(i am honestly really modest in person, but im trying to make a point)......you would think that would be a formula to getting women. well.....I am sadly mistaken, its not enough. I love women, and ill do just about anything to have mutliple partners, within reason. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh. Sometime I get depressed, because I see these other douche bags getting all the women and dont have half the qualities I possess. You know what they have and I dont....you guessed right, they they have $$$$$$. They are not going to want to date a guy a drives a piece of shit camry, lives in a dump, and barely has enough gas to pick them up, and works sitting on a platice green chair on a computer that is really "outdated"...... I guess the constant rejection from women keep me level headed and hungry to succeed.....like i said, i love women, they are great

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it's overrated... :2 cents:

the sad truth is that you just don't have any game dude... lack of money is just an excuse... :2 cents:

I love that quote too(great movie, there is a similar scene on Glenngarry Glen Ross, watch it if you liked boiler room). I dont have money, but I realize that it can make your life a hell of a lot easier. I speak through my current struggles:(

I thought I had no game either, but I am extremely successful back in my home city. The city I live in now are comprised of rich guys....How do you explain that?

Making money after working hard on something ... yes
Because it's an accomplishement and sometimes success.

But I honestly don't enjoy material stuff that much unless it's really usefull or for entraintement purposes... I couldn't care less about living in a 15 bedroom house.

Another thing, I dont want you to think i'm bashing rich guys or stereotyping, because that would be wrong. . I dont know there path's to success. For all i know they stuggled just like im stuggling now......I am not being impartial towards the wealthy is what i'm trying to say. I am not jelous either, but it sucks that society is based around class and financial status. I would hope that I wouldnt get bashed if someday I became wealthy.

The persuit of money makes be happy. Having a bunch helps too.

Oh please you dont need money to get girls. FYI, my I'm female and my bf doesn't even HAVE ANY car let alone a Camry. He just borrowed my Mercedes to go run some errands. I make enough for both of us so I guess I don't care too much.

I don't need a man with money, I make my own. I make more than the average guy in this country anyways.

I don't go for guys with $$$ because it's my theory that guys with more money are MORE likely to cheat, and usually are able to attract more females. I like guys with LESS money because I think they are more LIKELY to be faithful. Men with money have too much entitlement and feel like they deserve tons of women for their success.

There are exceptions to every rule, but thats great, I like your mentality. Maybe you should talk some sense to some of these women. I am not saying that all women are money hungry, because that would be an invalid statement.....but lets be real, some stability does help. I dont know maybe its just the environent that I live in that is leaving a bad taste in my mouth.....Mercedes, nice, its sounds like you have nothing to loose, and i am glad you are happy:)

Also, I have lots of female friends that say they are NOT looking for someone who is super successful and ambitious with tons of money because those men are MORE likely to treat you bad and cheat. They are actually afraid of guys like doctors, lawyers, etc Not in ALL cases of course, but the chances are more likely that guy with money wants lots of women.

They want someone who makes as much as them or less so that there's not too much of a power imbalance. I would never want to date someone who is a multi millionaire because I would feel to much of a power imbalance.

Women who are phobic of being cheated and insecure are more likely to go with someone with no money.

If you date a man with money you're going to have to put up with cheating, like all those NBA stars' wives for example...

Very true.

And when men have more money they are more likely to get escorts, hookers, call-girls etc

Just look at some of the rich guys on this board, I'm not gonna name names but their constantly being surrounded by beautiful women, models etc

I'm not saying only rich guys are like this, poor guys can have game and pull lots of chicks too, but if a woman wants a guy to be faithful she has a better chance with a guy who is not wealthy and successful.

Some of my girlfriends worry that even if they themselves make decent money, are successful PLUS are good looking the guy will STILL cheat on them.... It's like you are never enough. Even if you ARE good looking, plus make money, plus work out, guys will always want more... So you can better your chances by being with someone who is NOT wealthy.

Most guys I know who are successful feel like they deserve to have a lot of variety because they have worked hard for it... And they feel like they can always upgrade you for the newer, younger, hotter girl that comes along.

Girls who only go for rich guys are going to have to deal with the hookers, escorts, cheating, women constantly coming on to their man...

And it's also true that poor guys can cheat too, and in that case you might as well give up and grow old talking to your cats and living alone for the rest of your life until you die because that will mean it's hopeless.

I purposely chose a guy who was broke with no career because I feel that's the only chance I have of being with someone more likely to be faithful. I would not ever consider someone wealthy or successful because I would be always worried and never at ease.

I think there's a trend of women wanting to be with guys with less money for this reason. At least in my group of friends.

how many girls have u approached in the last week and just said "hi hows it going?" or even a cheesy pickup line =) if u can maintain a conversation ur set to throw in a whats ur number lets do coffee tomorrow or something... if you get rejected by 10/10 girls that you've maintained a convo with; hit the gym or lower ur standards.

remember pussy can be bought, loyalty cant.

my two cents.

everyone loves money

NO. Money cannot buy good health.

Money can not buy health but it can make all the other simple things here better...:)

Strongly agree with that. I am happier now than when I was young, poor and struggling. Of course, psychologically you adjust to your new life over time.

Money gives you more options.

In many cases it can.

No, but odds-wise you are better off with money. Whether YOU are this way or not, "Status" is one of the top factors in women selecting a mate and there is plenty of research to that effect that this is true in nearly every culture in the world.

I've been poor and I've been rich and there are a lot more hot girls around when "rich".

more money more stress different kinda of stress but no complaints grateful for everything i have

And there ya go.

Translation.....I like to have power over my men and if they have no money, they're less likely to be wanted by anybody else, which is good for me.

Translation...I'm a rich fat bitch with low self esteem, so I chose a broke guy in the HOPES that he will stay with me.

I am not fat, I am good looking, I just have low self esteem. I know girls who are 9's on a scale of 1-10 whose self-esteem is so low that they would only date broke guys. A lot of the good looking women I know have TERRIBLE self-esteem.

It also doesn't help that no matter how good looking you are, you can still be cheated on. It basically means that nothing you do will possibly help, even if you are perfect ten, because you still can be cheated on.

This is true for both sexes, isn't that why most wealthy men marry good looking bombshells for "trophy candy" or "trophy wives?"

Wealthy men marrying models and vice versa. Attraction in a nutshell.

These are evolved mechanisms. Beauty (symmetry, skin complexion, etc.) signifies health. These women have had more offspring over time because they were desired more. Wealth = resources that can be used to raise children and give them more advantages.

yes indeed but not all happiness can be bought...there's happiness that priceless..lets say having a baby, can't be bought but gives you happiness right..

if you're a happy person, more money makes you happier. If you're an unhappy person, more money just makes you unhappy with money.

yes, money makes me happy.

I've been poor and I've been rich. I've been equally miserable and happy in both instances. There are something's money just can't fix and things that are great that money can't buy. And I've seen some absolutely miserable rich people and completely happy poor folk. You either have a good outlook on life or you don't - your bank balance won't change that.

I go out with a guy who has millions and millions. And an addiction he can't fix. He said he likes me because I fell in love with him (not any more - he's a fuck buddy) when he was poor :)

Being able to pay the bills on time, have a few play $$$s and being able to invest here and there is OK by me. I could work 10X harder and make more money but why? I'd rather spend that time with friends and family.

great thread

Having enough money to live without worrying about how to pay the bills is more like it. Is that happiness? nah, but it sure gives you more time to NOT worry, which could lead to more happy times maybe? Anyway, close enough.

If you have enough money to do what you really want with your life, you have a very big shot at being happy.

Of course you can still blow it and be miserable.

Not all the times, but it surely can help a lot. :pimp

If women would be thinking like you, would be nice.. but be honest.. Women love money.. =) btw, nice theory about us guys..

Which is why men do

I'd definately agree here... I think people just wanna be financially sound.