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isabelamodel 02-27-2007 08:30 AM

first person to see with overall negative comments. interesting to see. why should people be forced to pay out 50%, just answer that if you will. It's the only online industry with rates like that from what I've personally seen.

Tanya_AWP 02-27-2007 08:31 AM

Congratulations on the site!::thumbsup

DutchTeenCash 02-27-2007 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isabelamodel (Post 11981336)
first person to see with overall negative comments. interesting to see. why should people be forced to pay out 50%, just answer that if you will. It's the only online industry with rates like that from what I've personally seen.

youre not forced to do anything

ask yourself: what makes you so special that webmasters will promote you for a lower percentage? its not WHEN you start marketing, your first post here WAS marketing.

I seriously suggest you seek someone with experience within the biz.

isabelamodel 02-27-2007 08:39 AM

thanks took us a while and i was nervous as heck getting nude in front of the camera at first. I just want ccbill already. Does anybody know what the issue they have with canadian webmasters and visa specifically is with visa?

LustyBucks 02-27-2007 08:46 AM

And you aren't 23.. You are 19 [wink][wink]...
There will be plenty of time to be 23 when you are 27...


:thumbsup good advice!

isabelamodel 02-27-2007 09:12 AM

Nah i dont wanna be a fake girl, i just wanna be me on that site. I've had some guys say i like i'm 17 years old. I'm never one to complain about guys thinking i'm younger. But also a girl in her early 20's knows better how to take care of a guy you'd think!

OG LennyT 02-27-2007 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by isabelamodel (Post 11981097)
Speaking of promoting what are some good ways besides getting webmasters to actually promote adult sites.

Make galleries and submit them to popular sites..

pornguy 02-27-2007 09:38 AM

your blog link at the top of the page does not work,

But you are very cute.

Good luck,

pornguy 02-27-2007 09:38 AM

for that matter, only 2 of them seem to work. I would get that fixed asap.

isabelamodel 02-27-2007 09:41 AM

yeah they are doing those today or tomorrow. the idea is to do the official launch by monday next week.

So quick question. i have read about TGP submitters like chameleon. so would i just create a gallery and submit it to these sites then? easy as that?

mikeyddddd 02-27-2007 09:43 AM

fiddy models

TheSenator 02-27-2007 09:44 AM

Yeah, 40% is pretty shitty and you are not a Jordan Capri.

I highly doubt any good webmaster would push your program. Your photographer doesn't know anything about Internet marketing. Raise it to 60% and I would consider.

TheSenator 02-27-2007 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by isabelamodel (Post 11981735)
yeah they are doing those today or tomorrow. the idea is to do the official launch by monday next week.

So quick question. i have read about TGP submitters like chameleon. so would i just create a gallery and submit it to these sites then? easy as that?

Yeah, really easy. You might make at 10 to 15 sign ups a day.

theS2O 02-27-2007 09:52 AM

congrats with your first site! :)

lazycash 02-27-2007 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by isabelamodel (Post 11981577)
Nah i dont wanna be a fake girl, i just wanna be me on that site. I've had some guys say i like i'm 17 years old. I'm never one to complain about guys thinking i'm younger. But also a girl in her early 20's knows better how to take care of a guy you'd think!

Lol, you've got a bit to learn, trust me you are getting good advice, now act on it. Solo girl sites are a dime a dozen these days and your site doesn't seem to have anything special to separate it. If you don't pay out at least 50% nobody will promote you, do you really think webmasters are going to waste their traffic on you for $8/sale? Please don't continue the charade of you being the model, just come out and tell us you are the webmaster and we'll be more inclined to help you. You'd have to be an idiot to misspell your own name for your gfy nick.

DutchTeenCash 02-27-2007 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 11981788)
Lol, you've got a bit to learn.

I was gonna post something like that as well - though AH well forget it.

Imagine if Id walk into a hospital saying I wanna be a surgeon but have no papers but just wanna try to see if it works. Everyone would go nuts. But in our biz nope everyone with a camera gets a try and they all wonder.

isabelamodel 02-27-2007 10:23 AM

if i had a decent camera i'd prove to you I am the girl. and no i don't want to be fake. i don't care if it means less sales, i'm not going to sell out. i mean i look over various sites the girls are always 18-19 years old. Why should you lie to your customer base. I'm an honest girl.

Now to re-iterate the $8 per sale. Imagine you order a pizza delivery place. your large deluxe pizza costs $19.95. Are you going to pay the delivery driver $10.00 to deliver the pizza for you. If you think from a business standpoint it really confuses me.

Dirty F 02-27-2007 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by isabelamodel (Post 11981939)
if i had a decent camera i'd prove to you I am the girl. and no i don't want to be fake. i don't care if it means less sales, i'm not going to sell out. i mean i look over various sites the girls are always 18-19 years old. Why should you lie to your customer base. I'm an honest girl.

Now to re-iterate the $8 per sale. Imagine you order a pizza delivery place. your large deluxe pizza costs $19.95. Are you going to pay the delivery driver $10.00 to deliver the pizza for you. If you think from a business standpoint it really confuses me.

Jesus, stop it already. Just take the goddamn advice if you want to make some money. Unless you are here because it was always a dream of yours to have a model site and dont care about the money.

Its your first site and you are on a forum where people have been pusing similar sites for the last 7 years. Maybe they know what they are talking about and you dont?

Now read what people say and stfu. You sound like Spacedog. He also thinks he always knows better while he actually knows shit.

TheSenator 02-27-2007 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by isabelamodel (Post 11981939)
if i had a decent camera i'd prove to you I am the girl. and no i don't want to be fake. i don't care if it means less sales, i'm not going to sell out. i mean i look over various sites the girls are always 18-19 years old. Why should you lie to your customer base. I'm an honest girl.

Now to re-iterate the $8 per sale. Imagine you order a pizza delivery place. your large deluxe pizza costs $19.95. Are you going to pay the delivery driver $10.00 to deliver the pizza for you. If you think from a business standpoint it really confuses me.


Funniest thread ever.

You have a lot to learn. I would take the advice given to you.

DutchTeenCash 02-27-2007 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isabelamodel (Post 11981939)
if i had a decent camera i'd prove to you I am the girl. and no i don't want to be fake. i don't care if it means less sales, i'm not going to sell out. i mean i look over various sites the girls are always 18-19 years old. Why should you lie to your customer base. I'm an honest girl.

Now to re-iterate the $8 per sale. Imagine you order a pizza delivery place. your large deluxe pizza costs $19.95. Are you going to pay the delivery driver $10.00 to deliver the pizza for you. If you think from a business standpoint it really confuses me.

there is nothing confusing bout it

It seems you have no experience in sales or marketing - but hey everyone has to learn at a point so lemme tell you in a few sec.

EVERY sale is built like this. In or outside the industry. Adult or selling Oreos.

consumerprice = resellerprice / profit

Theres always a 2nd layer. Youre producing, webmaster are REselling and consumers are buying. So yes that pizzaguy delivers pizza thats made from tomatoes who are grown and resold and profit added. The pizzaplace makes the pizza, he delivers and you pay the consumerprice. So the $10 is already in the pizza.

If youre trying to skip a step and offer a lower profit for the reseller aka webmaster, there must be a valid reason for this. You could have a unique product for instance. But you dont. What you have is the most difficult situation. Selling a new product to an existing market consumer.

Trust me the 40% is not gonna work. Unless you are going to offer something that noone else has. If you do hit me up Im sure there are tons of people here whod love to invest in that.

DutchTeenCash 02-27-2007 10:39 AM

Oh and about the lying. Try seeing it as enhancing the truth.

Hot 18yo brunette teen shows off her bouncy ass or girl drops her pants - what does sound more enticing? I think you know :)

tony286 02-27-2007 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 11981129)
Yo dude, you need to stay in your role as the model chick. You tried to convince us you were the model and couldnt even spell her name right and now with this post you post as a webmaster?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Now all the idiots here who were typing with 1 hand are all dissapointed and will stop giving all this free advice.

yeah i know , why doesnt he just come out as the webmaster and say i have a new site lol

TheSenator 02-27-2007 10:41 AM

http://www.iseekgirls.com/g/ann_ange..._bikini_01.jpg


Thread Killer.... Check out what she is offering.

She converts period!

corbu 02-27-2007 10:45 AM

good luck
 
goodluck

_Richard_ 02-27-2007 10:48 AM

the site needs to be hammered out and you need competitive payouts for webmasters. Competitive IS business sense.

Looking good! Good luck :)

R

Sinstar 02-27-2007 10:54 AM

50% of something is better than 60% of nothing. :)

DutchTeenCash 02-27-2007 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinstar (Post 11982092)
50% of something is better than 60% of nothing. :)

uhuh

but

40% of almost nothing isnt really something :)

aroy3719 02-27-2007 11:13 AM

Nice looking girl.

jscott 02-27-2007 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LustyBucks (Post 11981419)
And you aren't 23.. You are 19 [wink][wink]...
There will be plenty of time to be 23 when you are 27...


:thumbsup good advice!

haha, sad but true lol

Iron Fist 02-27-2007 12:25 PM

Oh and from your webmaster page (affiliate program page):

We are currently seeking webmasters looking to promote our website. Isabellamodel.com is a website with a hot up and coming model. Why promote non-nude or topless websites with lower recurring sales when you can promote a site dedicated to a high retainership of recurring sales!

Now I take a little offence to that statement. Why? Becuase that's exactly what I promote - non nude and topless/softcore.

My suggestion is - don't try to say your better than any type of niche. Non Nude/Softcore traffic can convert hardcore as well - I can gaurantee you that not every one of my surfers *JUST* loves non nude or softcore, so don't limit the people who might be interested in throwing a couple thousand uniques your way just to try it out - you've got nothing to lose.

DutchTeenCash 02-27-2007 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 11982546)
Oh and from your webmaster page (affiliate program page):

We are currently seeking webmasters looking to promote our website. Isabellamodel.com is a website with a hot up and coming model. Why promote non-nude or topless websites with lower recurring sales when you can promote a site dedicated to a high retainership of recurring sales!

Now I take a little offence to that statement. Why? Becuase that's exactly what I promote - non nude and topless/softcore.

My suggestion is - don't try to say your better than any type of niche. Non Nude/Softcore traffic can convert hardcore as well - I can gaurantee you that not every one of my surfers *JUST* loves non nude or softcore, so don't limit the people who might be interested in throwing a couple thousand uniques your way just to try it out - you've got nothing to lose.

exactly nn and softcore sells - plus Im not seeing any hardcore on her site so

lazycash 02-27-2007 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by isabelamodel (Post 11981939)
if i had a decent camera i'd prove to you I am the girl. and no i don't want to be fake. i don't care if it means less sales, i'm not going to sell out. i mean i look over various sites the girls are always 18-19 years old. Why should you lie to your customer base. I'm an honest girl.

Now to re-iterate the $8 per sale. Imagine you order a pizza delivery place. your large deluxe pizza costs $19.95. Are you going to pay the delivery driver $10.00 to deliver the pizza for you. If you think from a business standpoint it really confuses me.

From your pizza analogy, you are looking at all wrong. Lets say out of that $20 pizza, the total costs to make it including labor come out to $6. Then you turn around and pay out $10 to someone to market and sell it for you and deliver it which leaves you $4 in net profit. Your choice is to pay out $8 to the marketer/seller and increase your margin to $6. In the end you can move 100 pizzas a month and make your $600 net profit, or you can sell 1000 pizzas and make $4000 (1000 x $4) net profit. Its all about total profit dollars.

The only reason you would be stuck with having to pay out 40% is because either you are being greedy on what you think you should make on each sale or those who produced your content and designed your site are asking for too large of a chunk and not leaving much left over for you. If you are indeed the model, my apologies, but I would have expected the model to have been much more open minded, its usually the webmasters who think they know it all.

lazycash 02-27-2007 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash (Post 11982700)
exactly nn and softcore sells - plus Im not seeing any hardcore on her site so

Yeah I noticed that it said "hardcore videos" on her front page. Yet she tells us she is shy about taking off her clothes in front of the camera. I'm guessing there is no hardcore content in her site.

rowan 02-27-2007 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by isabelamodel (Post 11981939)
Now to re-iterate the $8 per sale. Imagine you order a pizza delivery place. your large deluxe pizza costs $19.95. Are you going to pay the delivery driver $10.00 to deliver the pizza for you. If you think from a business standpoint it really confuses me.

You need to think about the big picture rather than just profit per sale. Your pizza analogy falls apart because the cost price of a new membership is not a large portion of the signup price. A few more hits on your server, and an increase in the average support emails by maybe 0.1 emails per month.

You can pay 50%, still be fussy, and make more money than if you continue offering 40%. Remember, affiliates choose to promote you, not the other way around. Some will not even consider joining for 40%.

latinasojourn 02-28-2007 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by isabelamodel (Post 11981223)
There are other avenues of getting signups per say cheaper than paying a person 50%. right now it's all hard to say how things are going to go. I have received tonnes of good feedback about my looks and what not. i am hopeful that when ccbill starts taking payments for us it'll be easier.


truth is, IF this is a solo model site building on personal contact with the surfer there is only so much original content that can be created.

and if this original content is very special you do not need an affiliate program to make best ROI.

so disregard much of this nonsense about affiliate program. you are not bangbros shooting tons of new content all the time---you are a boutique site.

suggest no affiliates, and very original unique content and high membership price.

the key is IF you have unique original content---if you do, do not water it down with the affiliate business model, especially if YOU are the content.

Galina Los 02-28-2007 08:04 AM

well good job dude! keep on doing this way! congrats on the first site!

DutchTeenCash 02-28-2007 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 11982702)
From your pizza analogy, you are looking at all wrong.

yeah

she has zero clue bout marketing - someone should teach her/him cause this is gonna go wrong on so many levels.

pornbilly 03-07-2007 03:01 AM

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Tat2Jr 03-07-2007 03:09 AM

Is it just me or is the site down? I can't even see what I won't be promoting because you offer too little.

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