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scottybuzz · 02-26-2007, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by madawgz

There is a clip of President Bush quoted as saying that he watched on CNN the first plane hit BEFORE he entered the classroom...how is that possible?.. did he have advance knowledge of the attack?

not even bush is that stupid madawgz.

Pleasurepays · 02-26-2007, 04:45 PM

51 self proclaimed wise ones who "get it"

Splum · 02-26-2007, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by devilspost

This idiot wants civil war here? between who the repukes and the dems? you cant get a repulican to fight in wars so goodluck with your side, why dont you go to iraq? your dear leaders have created a civil war for you to fight in already. Now go signup chicken shit. If you are 42 years or under you are eligible. GO!

1. I served in the Gulf War I have done my duty to my country, which is more than I can say for people like you.
2. 80% of the troops vote Republican so I dont know where the fuck you get your information.
3. I would love nothing more than to purge my country of the cancer that is extreme liberalism.
4. Get some.

Martin3 · 02-26-2007, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by madawgz

Look at the video of Building 7 and you will clearly see trails of white smoke puffing out from the top floors before it starts to collapse...controlled demolition in progress. This huge hulk of a building was in no way compromised by fire to the point of making it collapse...it was taken down. If what you say was true do you think that diesel fuel would be enough to melt steel?

I just watched a shitload of vids at google and youtube and don't see any smoke like you're talking about.
Controlled demos are done from bottom to top, not the other way around.

You don't have to melt steel to weaken it. It loses most of it's structural integrity around 600F degree's.
There were many small diesel tanks all over the building for the smaller generators. The main generator was on the 5th floor and was fuel by a very large tank in the based. The line from the basement was pressurized going all they way up to the 5th floor.

So yes pressurized fuel feeding a fire that burned for 7 hours, before reaching the very large tank in the basement could have weakened it enough to collaspe.

Martin3 · 02-26-2007, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

the funny irony of conspiracy idiots is that they not only make Bush look like a genius by direct comparison, but their arguments also rely on that awkward notion.

Depending on the context of their argument Bush is either the greatest evil genius of all time, or just a dumb monkey.

macmark · 02-26-2007, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MattO

Alex Jones is a nutjob. He was a conspiracist long before 9/11 and anything that ever happens he's the first to jump on and say there's a nefarious plot involved.

Alex Jones is a freedom fighter and I have quite a bit of respect for the man TBH. Sure, he is slightly OTT but the man's heart is in the right place and IMO the world is better off having people like him in it.

I don't subscribe to any particular theory regarding 911 or whatever but the whole thing just stinks from whatever angle you look at it.

Passports and bandanners survive raging fires that brings down buildings but apparently black box flight recoders turn to dust. Even if you believe the official story I dunno how you can buy shit like this that they constantly put out. I assume they're targetting the retarded half of America when they come up with this stuff.

Release the flight recorders, show all the CCTV footage, answer all the questions and you put and end to all this pretty easily. Instead they lie and cover up and have some half arsed commission run by a republican fuck buddy of condy rice.

If you accept that then you're a sheep. Baaaahhh

FelixFlow · 02-26-2007, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum

Some of you treacherous people need to be dragged out of your homes and shot in the street like dogs.

wtf !?!?

stickyfingerz · 02-26-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by macmark

Alex Jones is a freedom fighter and I have quite a bit of respect for the man TBH. Sure, he is slightly OTT but the man's heart is in the right place and IMO the world is better off having people like him in it.

I don't subscribe to any particular theory regarding 911 or whatever but the whole thing just stinks from whatever angle you look at it.

Passports and bandanners survive raging fires that brings down buildings but apparently black box flight recoders turn to dust. Even if you believe the official story I dunno how you can buy shit like this that they constantly put out. I assume they're targetting the retarded half of America when they come up with this stuff.

Release the flight recorders, show all the CCTV footage, answer all the questions and you put and end to all this pretty easily. Instead they lie and cover up and have some half arsed commission run by a republican fuck buddy of condy rice.

If you accept that then you're a sheep. Baaaahhh

Now we need to do a poll on how many mac users belive in 911 conspiracies I think it would be telling haha

Splum · 02-26-2007, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by macmark

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You are a fucking kook. Kill yourself now before the civil war starts.

madawgz · 02-26-2007, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum

The only thing that stinks here is you and your "kind" of people. Man I cant wait for civil war.

Gee that sounds like a great idea....your "kind" against our "kind"?

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

Excuse me if you are talking about that other building still. You and your 1000's of fellow lunatics use the same fire excuse over and over and over again for both the twin towers. A fire cant take them down. And maybe now you were talking about building 7 but im 99% sure you used the same bs excuse for the twin towers as well. Be a man and admit it.

Its the best "evidence" you conspiracy lunatics have. A fire cant take a building down. The fact that 2 planes flew into doesnt seem to matter.

Fucking retards.

Building 7...Building7....Building 7.....it was a controlled demolition..look at the facts..look at the video....

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

I have to admit i thought he was talking about the twin towers but he wasnt. But this same posts is for ALL those people who say the same thing about the twin towers. And believe me, there are tons. Its amazing how ignorant these people are.

Building 7 was pulled...it was PULLED...doesn't that make you want to find out what really happened?

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Originally Posted by notabook

Noted. I completely agree with you on that; people who say these buildings never fell by fire before, sure that is true -- but then again never before in history have jets of these size smacked into them either. That coupled with the fire looks to have been enough to bring them down. Sure the buildings were supposed to be able to withstand impacts from jets ? just like the New Orleans levee was supposed to hold back floodwater. We all saw how well that worked out.

The levee was not made to withstand a force such as Katrina...corners were cut and a huge price was paid..
Again...please look at the evidence in regards to Building 7...it's the key to everything..if it was rigged for demolition then everything else starts to stink..

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Originally Posted by twisted Illustration

It was terrorism. End.

...state sponsored...

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Originally Posted by Rhesus

Not only are conspiracy theorists like those abundantly present on GFY terribly dumb, they also insult the lion's share of a country, their government and what not.

The government is lying to you...wake up!

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Originally Posted by n0de

I believe that everyone is jumping the gun a bit which results in alot of name calling and more conflicts, "United we stand" dosen't sound like reality based on all the arguing that is going on among people today. Based on the United states history of involving itself in other wars, I would say that yes, there is a possibility that it could have been an inside job. I do however strongly hope that I am wrong in thinking that, after all if there is is/are a human being(s) that can live the rest of their lives knowing that they are responsible for thoudands of innocent lives...well then in that case I would also become a beliver in the devil.

All in all, it seems like the goverment can do the most obvious shit and get away with it because everything becomes a "conspiracy theory". The only proof I believe in is that illustrated by people who have a degree in physics and are able to explain their "theory" from a scientific point of view.

what is your take on my view of it all? im curious to know.

Look back and see what other leaders/governments have done to their people to gain control and lessen individual freedoms...Nero burning Rome...Hitler burning the Reichstad...there are other examples...
give the people something to be frightened about and you can mold them into anything you want them to be...

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

the funny irony of conspiracy idiots is that they not only make Bush look like a genius by direct comparison, but their arguments also rely on that awkward notion.

Just tell me something..do you consider yourself as free today as you were before 9/11?
Are you willing to submit to RFID implants to "protect" you from terrorists...
do you want cameras on every corner recording your every move to protect you from the "bogey man"?..
do you want government to control every facet of your life because you're afraid..
if that's the case then by all means just let go...let "Big Brother" take care of everything..and submit yourself to the true evil genius of what we see unfolding as the biggest smoke and mirror trick the world has ever seen.
"Absolute power corrupts absolutely"

Splum · 02-26-2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by madawgz

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I may be an asshole, but seriously you are a fucking nutjob. Seek help immediately. May I recommend a nice Smith & Wesson to alleviate your sickness?

notabook · 02-26-2007, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by madawgz

The levee was not made to withstand a force such as Katrina...corners were cut and a huge price was paid..
Again...please look at the evidence in regards to Building 7...it's the key to everything..if it was rigged for demolition then everything else starts to stink..

I didn’t say the levee was supposed to hold back a force of Katrina magnitude. I said the levee was supposed to hold back floodwater - which it did, for a short while. Then the levees eventually fell. It’s just like the WTC falling due to impact strikes that were greater than were expected that the design called for.

I've always said that Building #7's collapse was fishy, but this in no way points to state sponsored terrorism.

websiex · 02-26-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum

I may be an asshole, but seriously you are a fucking nutjob. Seek help immediately. May I recommend a nice Smith & Wesson to alleviate your sickness?

Are you a troll or do you really hold the views you have posted on this forum? Been wondering...

pornguy · 02-26-2007, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SNL

This may help ya

WTC 7 Larry Silverstein "pull it"
https://youtube.com/watch?v=u0scE7bQWdk

So based on that video, the firemen were able to get in there with explosives and bring that building down safely withing a matter of minutes???

Hmmm..

Sounds fishy,

BlackCrayon · 02-26-2007, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum

Some of you treacherous people need to be dragged out of your homes and shot in the street like dogs.

lol, how very "land of the free".

Minte · 02-26-2007, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

So based on that video, the firemen were able to get in there with explosives and bring that building down safely withing a matter of minutes???

Hmmm..

Sounds fishy,

But it wasn't just regular firemen..it was the ultrasecret echoforce firemen.

WarChild · 02-26-2007, 06:41 PM

baddog · 02-26-2007, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by madawgz

HIGHLY UNLIKELY...Building 7 is the "Smoking Gun" and this footage, if I can get my hands on it, will be another piece to the puzzle that 9/11 was an inside job by the New World Order elite...

right . . . now I understand why you are nothing more than a sigwhore

tony286 · 02-26-2007, 06:56 PM

A few things first everyone knows Im no W lover. First off I dont think the current admin could pull off something like that and secondly lots of people would of had to be involved someone would of spoke by now.

fuzzylogic · 02-26-2007, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by damian2001

What I dont get is why they would have gone though the INCREDIBLY elaberate charade of 9/11.

Use you imagination and you can think of a 100 ways to start a war without the need of anything so dangerous......

One off the top of my head - They find a Suitcase Nuke set to detonate in New York - They disarm it, just in time - but tie it directly to Al Queda.

6 people max would need to know about it being a conspiricy - instead of the 1000's that must know about 9/11 - if indeed it is a conspiricy.

agreed.
there is no conspericy

craigant01 · 02-26-2007, 06:59 PM

on the subject of the towers: jet fuel has been proven that it could not get hot enough too have melt the steel nor could any of the materials that would have been present in the buildings. The towers were also built too withstand a hit from the biggest commercial plane at the time which was a 707, it was even said it may beable to withstand multiple hits. The twin towers were hit by a 767 though which is slightly smaller than a 707 therefore the buildings must have been really badly made or something fishy is going on!

craigant01 · 02-26-2007, 06:59 PM

on the subject of the towers: jet fuel has been proven that it could not get hot enough too have melt the steel nor could any of the materials that would have been present in the buildings. The towers were also built too withstand a hit from the biggest commercial plane at the time which was a 707, it was even said it may beable to withstand multiple hits. The twin towers were hit by a 767 though which is slightly smaller than a 707 therefore the buildings must have been really badly made or something fishy is going on!

Splum · 02-26-2007, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

lol, how very "land of the free".

and home of the brave... not the weak which should be expelled from this country immediately.

tony286 · 02-26-2007, 07:11 PM

To announce that there must be no criticism of the president... is morally treasonable to the American public.
Theodore Roosevelt

Splum · 02-26-2007, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by websiex

Are you a troll or do you really hold the views you have posted on this forum? Been wondering...

Why would I post otherwise? Certainly I may be sensationalizing some of my posts for shock effect. Point of the matter is if anyone believes 9/11 was a conspiracy the scale of which is simply statistically IMPOSSIBLE to pull off then they really need to do the rest of us on this planet a favor and quit breathing.

Splum · 02-26-2007, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

To announce that there must be no criticism of the president... is morally treasonable to the American public.
Theodore Roosevelt

This has nothing to do with President Bush, you actually BELIEVE that 9/11 is a conspiracy?

Martin3 · 02-26-2007, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by craigant01

on the subject of the towers: jet fuel has been proven that it could not get hot enough too have melt the steel nor could any of the materials that would have been present in the buildings. The towers were also built too withstand a hit from the biggest commercial plane at the time which was a 707, it was even said it may beable to withstand multiple hits. The twin towers were hit by a 767 though which is slightly smaller than a 707 therefore the buildings must have been really badly made or something fishy is going on!

You tinfoil nuts always like to use the word 'melt'. Steel loses it's load baring ability at around 600F, that is fact, no one disputes that. That's why you have to use clever wording and hope no one is really paying attention.

767 is bigger then a 707. I don't know were you fuckers get this info.

tony286 · 02-26-2007, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum

This has nothing to do with President Bush, you actually BELIEVE that 9/11 is a conspiracy?

I believe? dont you know how to read? I said I dont think that could happen and why.

mattz · 02-26-2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin3

You know how many weeks/months of cleaning out and planning are put into controlled demolishing of a building? Not to mention the thousands of charges and miles of cables to run, all while people are working?

Maybe the fact that there were thousands of gallons of diesel fuel stored in the basement of building 7 for the generators might have something to do with the black smoke and bottom giving out people saw before it collapsed?

You think? .......

lol madawg just got even more dumber in my book than he already was

mattz · 02-26-2007, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by craigant01

on the subject of the towers: jet fuel has been proven that it could not get hot enough too have melt the steel nor could any of the materials that would have been present in the buildings. The towers were also built too withstand a hit from the biggest commercial plane at the time which was a 707, it was even said it may beable to withstand multiple hits. The twin towers were hit by a 767 though which is slightly smaller than a 707 therefore the buildings must have been really badly made or something fishy is going on!

lol, you made my day, another idiot

yeah the USA killed thousands of citizens to put themselves in worse position than before

damn how did all you conspiracy theorists know?

tony286 · 02-26-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I believe? dont you know how to read? I said I dont think that could happen and why.

sorry I didnt realize you were asking a question my bad.

Agent 488 · 02-26-2007, 07:35 PM

lol you listen to alex jones too ..

broke · 02-26-2007, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by craigant01

on the subject of the towers: jet fuel has been proven that it could not get hot enough too have melt the steel nor could any of the materials that would have been present in the buildings. The towers were also built too withstand a hit from the biggest commercial plane at the time which was a 707, it was even said it may beable to withstand multiple hits. The twin towers were hit by a 767 though which is slightly smaller than a 707 therefore the buildings must have been really badly made or something fishy is going on!

Are you kidding -- A 707 is slightly smaller than a 767?

An "advanced" 707 has the following specs:

Wingspan 145 feet 9 inches (44.42 m)
Length 152 feet 11 inches (46.6 m)

A 767 has the following specs:

Wingspan 170 ft 4 in (51.9m)
Length 201 feet 4 inches (61.4 m)

Shall we go into gross weight, fuel capacity, and cargo weight?

craigant01 · 02-26-2007, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mattz

lol, you made my day, another idiot

yeah the USA killed thousands of citizens to put themselves in worse position than before

damn how did all you conspiracy theorists know?

wasnt supposed to be worse i guess they just fucked up

baddog · 02-26-2007, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by broke

Are you kidding -- A 707 is slightly smaller than a 767?

An "advanced" 707 has the following specs:

Wingspan 145 feet 9 inches (44.42 m)
Length 152 feet 11 inches (46.6 m)

A 767 has the following specs:

Wingspan 170 ft 4 in (51.9m)
Length 201 feet 4 inches (61.4 m)

Shall we go into fuel capacity and cargo weight?

Didn't you know that they just called it a 767 to make it seem bigger?

kektex · 02-26-2007, 07:39 PM

What I would like to know is how the US government can keep such a massive conspiracy under wraps.
Did GWB have everyone involved killed right after?

craigant01 · 02-26-2007, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Didn't you know that they just called it a 767 to make it seem bigger?

yeah because the 767 is much bigger than the 747 right!!

SNL · 02-26-2007, 07:51 PM

WTC 7, oh how nice it comes down.

broke · 02-26-2007, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by craigant01

yeah because the 767 is much bigger than the 747 right!!

Both are HUGE compared to a 707. Did you really think a 707 is bigger than a 767?

craigant01 · 02-26-2007, 08:02 PM

was takin the piss

BlackCrayon · 02-26-2007, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum

and home of the brave... not the weak which should be expelled from this country immediately.

well for some reason i thought america wanted the weak and huddled masses, etc.

baddog · 02-26-2007, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

well for some reason i thought america wanted the weak and huddled masses, etc.

wanting and allowing are two different things

CyberHustler · 02-26-2007, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum

1. I served in the Gulf War I have done my duty to my country, which is more than I can say for people like you.
2. 80% of the troops vote Republican so I dont know where the fuck you get your information.
3. I would love nothing more than to purge my country of the cancer that is extreme liberalism.
4. Get some.

I just got out of the military in August, Went to Afghanistan twice, Iraq once... Most of the soldiers I was around voted democrat, thought Bin Ladden was from Iraq, and hated Bush...

As far as 9/11... the truth is better off as a secret. Because the shit I found out will make you so fucking depressed....

BlackCrayon · 02-26-2007, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

wanting and allowing are two different things

Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

written on the statue of liberty.

Dirty Dane · 02-26-2007, 08:12 PM

There were firemen reporting about a huge hole in building 7, caused by the towers when they felt down.

It cracks me up with these conspiracy theorists, because they only tell what they want you to hear.

Here is some debunking stuff for the interested:
http://911myths.com/html/wtc7_damage.html

baddog · 02-26-2007, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

written on the statue of liberty.

I know what it says.

Pleasurepays · 02-26-2007, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by madawgz

Just tell me something..do you consider yourself as free today as you were before 9/11?
Are you willing to submit to RFID implants to "protect" you from terrorists...
do you want cameras on every corner recording your every move to protect you from the "bogey man"?..
do you want government to control every facet of your life because you're afraid..
if that's the case then by all means just let go...let "Big Brother" take care of everything..and submit yourself to the true evil genius of what we see unfolding as the biggest smoke and mirror trick the world has ever seen.
"Absolute power corrupts absolutely"

sure i feel free.

why would i feel afraid? my life hasn't changed one bit since 9/11. not one thing is different in my life after Bush or 9/11. the only difference is that i have to take my shoes off to get through security when boarding a plane. other than that, i wake up, i work, i go to the gym, i go out with my wife and i still do all the same things i did on 9/10.

you're not only very paranoid.. you're delusional.

there is one huge flaw in your parting quote... our government is set up so "absolute power" is not in anyones hands. no degree of paranoia on your part will change that fact. no degree of paranoia changes the fact that there are 3 branches of government and an adequate system of checks and balances that have worked so well for 3 centuries, that there has never been a need to change it... and so well that much of the western and developed world has tried to emulate it.

SNL · 02-26-2007, 08:30 PM

Here is the link of the video and the BBC reporter. Fast foward to about 15:00 and you will see the reporter saying the WTC 7 collapsed and its still standing.

http://www.esnips.com/doc/47ae2fd7-0...lding7Collapse

tehHinjew · 02-26-2007, 08:36 PM

great points

Dirty Dane · 02-26-2007, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SNL

Here is the link of the video and the BBC reporter. Fast foward to about 15:00 and you will see the reporter saying the WTC 7 collapsed and its still standing.

http://www.esnips.com/doc/47ae2fd7-0...lding7Collapse

So what does that prove? That the journalists were confused like all of us?

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Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	There were firemen reporting about a huge hole in building 7, caused by the towers when they felt down. It cracks me up with these conspiracy theorists, because they only tell what they want you to hear. Here is some debunking stuff for the interested: http://911myths.com/html/wtc7_damage.html

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SNL Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 290	Here is the link of the video and the BBC reporter. Fast foward to about 15:00 and you will see the reporter saying the WTC 7 collapsed and its still standing. http://www.esnips.com/doc/47ae2fd7-0...lding7Collapse