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BusterBunny 02-21-2007 08:00 PM

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Splum 02-21-2007 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kandah (Post 11954371)
What makes you think she is sunni? And even if she is why does it matter? How long have you been reading the blog and what makes you an expert in identifying propaganda? In my memory you usually defend Bush and the new world order, that to me means that you are a victim of propaganda, not one who can easily identify it.

Atrocities were happening in Iraq daily BEFORE the USA invaded.

She has chosen a side in this war and it is against American interests.
Guess what? I am an American. She is my enemy if she isnt supporting the government the IRAQI people voted for. I dont give a fuck what happens to my enemy, matter of fact I want them dead. That bitch can go to hell... oops she is already there. :)

Splum 02-21-2007 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief (Post 11955326)
Watched an interesting documentary on TV here, made by a doctor in Baghdad. Was kind of interesting to see and hear how 90% of people he knew were actually hoping the American's stayed, as they were the only ones capable of bringing any stability right now. Kind of different to what I've heard in the media previously.

Most media is the enemy of the empire of the United States of America.

kane 02-21-2007 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 11955325)
South Korea and Germany are two that have come to mind that are still very powerful governments that initially WE set up.
Also dont be so ignorant as to think Imperialism cant come in forms like cultural and economic as well.
Just ask any average Russian, the USA changed the face of Russia and all its states, fact is the USA has changed the world many times over.


I won't argue that we haven't set-up (or helped set-up) governments that are still working well today. I guess my point is that when you invade a country, oust its leader then occupy that country with no time table for your leaving, it's pretty damned difficult to convice the people of that country that your way, your government is better.

There are very good ways to bring about change. Russia is a great example. We never invaded them, but we stood up to them and we worked behind the scenes to bring about change in that country. Eventally the people took over and harvested the seed we planted. Had we marched into Moscow with tanks and guns and told them communisim is bad, democracy is good we would have had a completely different response.

jayeff 02-21-2007 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 11955359)
Most media is the enemy of the empire of the United States of America.


You really are a fool. The human race has been at war since before recorded history began, almost 5,000 years ago. Military action produces only dead bodies.

If you are near the patriot you apparently want us to believe, try being concerned that our capital city has a many homeless as there are people in many small towns. Put your bellicosity into fighting for an education system which isn't among the worst in the industrialized world. Feel shame and not pride that millions of Americans are without all but emergency healthcare, that there is a 20-year difference in longevity between rich and poor.

And if that doesn't work, think about the 9/11 your grandchildren may one day face because you supported the killing of someone's grandfather.

Splum 02-21-2007 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jayeff (Post 11955466)
You really are a fool. The human race has been at war since before recorded history began, almost 5,000 years ago. Military action produces only dead bodies.

...and in some cases military action can produce prolonged periods of peace for the conquerors.

Dont get all socialistic with your reply lol I am the LAST person that cares about a homeless person. There are weak people in every society, they fend for themselves.

notabook 02-21-2007 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 11955833)
Dont get all socialistic with your reply lol I am the LAST person that cares about a homeless person. There are weak people in every society, they fend for themselves.

Does that sentiment also apply to orphans? To those with severe handicaps? To those who are mentally ill? There are over 50,000 mentally ill homeless people in California alone. You don't care about these people who can't take care of themselves?

The Duck 02-22-2007 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 11955359)
Most media is the enemy of the empire of the United States of America.

Just get the fuck out of this thread you idiot. You must be the most brainwashed, gullible person I have ever met. Do some research before you open your mouth and dont just quote cnn / fox news. You are the reason why many intelligent people outside america hate americans, because some of you are so fucking stupid.

Soon you will see what you have been defending with your entire soul, just wait.

mikesinner 02-22-2007 08:07 AM

The problem I see is that we are still performing a police action in Irag and not a real war. Just like in previous wars in the 60's and 70's we don't have enough troops in the region. I mean we only have like 120,000 troops over there. I think at the height of the Vietnam war we had half a million. It's a fucking desert. The only place the enemy has to hide is in a building or in the mountains. Lets do what should have been done in the first place and fight a real war. America always wins when they put their backs into it, but when we sit around and wine we never get anything right.

mikesinner 02-22-2007 08:09 AM

Oh yeah you shouldn't believe everything you see on Fox News and CNN they have their own political agenda just like everyone else

jayeff 02-22-2007 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 11955833)
Dont get all socialistic with your reply lol I am the LAST person that cares about a homeless person. There are weak people in every society, they fend for themselves.

Socialism my ass. The concerns I mentioned were considerably more typical of the issues which involved this country's founding fathers than your chauvinism. And on the off-chance you think you reflect some glorious Republican tradition, our current president - and even he fluffed his lines - is the first in this country's history to speak in remotely similar terms.

You can however find hundreds of quotations from past US presidents (of both parties) and American military leaders, decrying the ultimate evil and pointlessness of war.

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~ George Washington

Dollarmansteve 02-22-2007 09:36 AM

Are we still talking about the Iraq war? Man, havent you guys heard - Global Warming is going to kill us all!!! (al gore said so).

WalterWoot 02-22-2007 10:01 AM

There is a fucking siple fact in all this shit: The problem isnt only with middle east, the problem is all around the worl. Most of northamerican citizens think they country is like the "world police" and that nobody can say them what to do... But they dont look to the outside, to what the other people thinks... Im at Argentina, and i can tell u something: There is not a single southamerican who thinks that USA is doing something fine, and i bet that there is a lot of ppl in the other continents thinking the same way... My dear northamerican friends, you should think in this thinking from an elder chinese thinker "Billions and billions of flyes cant be wrong: eat shit".

U are there just thinking u r the kings of the world, but the world is more and more tired each day...

About middle east and africa, I DONT GIVE A DAMN BY THEM. U can resolve their problem by giving them food or help. Until they decide to stop all the wars they have going on, nobody can help them. Ppl there will just keep dying and starving, just because they use all their forces and money to pay more wars.

About me, I`m just a dude looking the world from the southest country on the world, and living my life, i think we may look like too far to get bombed... So nobody care about us!

The Duck 05-21-2007 04:02 AM

Bump for the riverbend blog


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